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Trapped in the Fan Service Void: A Deadpool and Wolverine Critique

Deadpool and Wolverine

Throughout its marketing, Deadpool and Wolverine billed itself as both a swan song to the 2000s era of comic book films, the Fox X-Men franchise, and taking swings at the more muted reception towards the recent output of MCU films. However, while watching it, it felt more akin to beating an already dead horse with bags of that sweet, sweet Disney money while making jokes about movies that have been mocked to death for multiple years and even decades. I would not consider Deadpool and Wolverine’s massive box office a sign of success but a warning for what’s to come as Disney takes the wrong lessons from it. It might not be the first to have the worst types of fan service, but it proves how much this specific type can draw in audiences, along with its highly shallow critique of recent superhero media—spoilers for the film. 

First off, I am not against fan service. As a comic book fan, I enjoy it when my favorite characters get the spotlight or a creative team references a deep cut I recognize. Having those nuggets pop up as if to thank me for being a fan can feel rewarding. However, the fan service in Deadpool and Wolverine comes across as exhuming the old corpses of these past failed movies and puppeting them to make audiences laugh. I enjoyed seeing Dafne Keen return, but my eyes glazed over Chris Evans showing up as the Human Torch, Wesley Snipes as Blade, or even finally letting Channing Tatum be Gambit. It came across as stunt casting and to inspire reactions on social media where the movie does not dive deeper into being swallowed up by the success of the MCU. Jennifer Garner, as Elektra, got to make a Daredevil/Ben Affleck joke, Deadpool references Snipes’s frustration with Ryan Reynolds on the set of Blade Trinity, and so forth. Instead of making actual jokes, it comes across more as Reynolds and the other writers trying to recapture a feeling of joy by putting these characters on the screen again. 

Although called Deadpool and Wolverine, the X-Men get a backseat compared to the other non-Disney Marvel films, which get much more love and attention. Outside of Aaron Stanford, Dafne Keen, and even Tyler Mane, who get the most screen time as returning X-Men characters, Deadpool’sDeadpool’s cast gets sidelined, and the remaining mutants are played as background details for fans to point out. I am not expecting Olivia Munn to return as Psylocke or Jason Fleming as Azazel. Still, they cared more about stunt casting than integrating the Fox X-Men characters into the narrative. Especially with characters like Negasonic Teenage Warhead, Colossus, Shatterstar, and Vanessa, who have played significant roles in the past, Deadpool movies are essentially shunted off until the film’s end. The final project is a hollow mess that left me hungry for a more substantial narrative. The Fox X-Men and the remaining Fox comic book movies do not get a proper sendoff. 

Then comes Deadpool and Wolverine’s critiques of the recent MCU films and current superhero media. Relying on pot shots, hackneyed jokes, and grating fourth wall breaks, it never crafts a genuine, honest critique. We know about fans complaining that Wolverine never got to wear his actual costume in the original films, how Marvel’s quality is going down, and even that Rob Liefeld can’t draw feet. The issue lies in Deadpool and Wolverine, a commercial project by Disney that allows the viewer to believe that Disney is aware of Deadpool making fun of the company; all the while, they willingly grab your ticket money. Movies, TV shows, and even comics are the sole products of these companies to market to the masses, and they will do whatever it takes to ensure they succeed. And especially framing Deadpool, who is one of the most popular Marvel characters, as an underdog taking the winds from the Marvel sails lose its bite when you also remember that Ryan Reynolds and Shawn Levy, two highly successful people in film and television, doing a project funded by one of the biggest companies in entertainment. Frankly, the more significant issue that Deadpool and Wolverine do not want to acknowledge is how often art gets treated by these giant corporations and how even the creatives do not get recognition and monetary payment for their creations. These huge blockbuster franchises are built upon the work of writers, artists, and creatives who need more money for the incredible art they make. Toting the project as Disney’s first R-rated film for the MCU, it lacks any bite or power but fits within the ultra corporate refined track record image of the past movies. It is another property and IP for the giant corporate monster to ingest, process, and feed to its global audience.

About two weeks ago, Marvel announced the restructuring of the MCU, where the Russo Brothers and Robert Downey Jr. would return as directors for the upcoming films, and he would be Doctor Doom. Aside from my many problems with this news, it calls to mind another critical issue of the current MCU films and even Deadpool and Wolverine. The usage of nostalgia can only last so long before it crumbles and leaves a bitter taste in the audience’s throats. I do not think that audiences are getting tired of superhero films; they are exhausted by these big corporations repacking familiar stories where they play it safe and repeating the cycle. And with the movie making over $852 million, Disney and similar companies will learn the wrong lesson from it. Instead of the success of other movies that took risks, hollow familiarity and safety proved the winner. 

Fox’s comic book movies were not perfect, but they were many people’s introductions to the comics. X-Men: First Class, for all its faults, got me into the mutants and made me the X-Men fan I am today. Deadpool and Wolverine left a bad taste in my mouth as it signals what a corporation would do to attract a fledgling audience by offering shallow fan service. Much like the beginning of the film with Deadpool digging up Logan’s adamantium skeleton, Disney will continue to do the same to keep butts in their seats. Its massive success would count as a joke to the people saying that superhero films are falling out of fashion, but it’s not funny when there are long-term corrosive consequences. The only people laughing are Disney as they take the cheap hits on the way to the bank. Who needs a compelling story, interesting characters, or good basic writing when you can rely on IP to satisfy a viewer? Like the Fox films, we are trapped in a void by Disney and similar corporations who want to play us the safe hits instead of doing anything new and fresh. 

Those Two Geeks Episode 279: Rambling About The MCU

Alex and Joe hang out and talk about initial reactions to Robert Downey Jr as Dr. Doom, and then start talking about the rest of the MCU and the how we ended up where we are.

You can reach Alex and Joe can be found on Twitter respectively @karcossa and @FirstRonin4 if you feel the need to tell them they’re wrong individually, or by email at ItsThose2Geeks@gmail.com.

Music by AlexGrohl from Pixabay

Underrated: The Incredible Hulk

This is a column that focuses on something or some things from the comic book sphere of influence that may not get the credit and recognition it deserves. Whether that’s a list of comic book movies, ongoing comics, or a set of stories featuring a certain character. The columns may take the form of a bullet pointed list, or a slightly longer thinkpiece – there’s really no formula for this other than whether the things being covered are Underrated in some way. This week: Incredible Hulk.


The Marvel Cinematic Universe started off with Iron Man in 2008. You all know that, I’m sure. Just as you know that the second film was Incredible Hulk, released just over a month later. Unlike the other Marvel movies, Bruce Banner is play by Edward Norton in this film, the actor’s only appearance as the jolly green giant. This movie is also slightly harder to find than the rest of the MCU movies because it’s the only one that Disney doesn’t own the distribution rights to, as Universal own the distribution rights to the Incredible Hulk – as well as first refusal on any Hulk movie (which is why you haven’t seen a Hulk movie since this one).

When I first saw this movie I remember thoroughly enjoying the near two hours I sat in the theater, thinking that Marvel had gone two for two with their opening salvo.

Back to the bullet points!

  • Don’t expect to see the humour from Mark Ruffalo’s Hulk. This movie has odd lighter moments, but for the most part it’s much closer to a straight action film featuring a very reluctant hero.
  • Edward Norton plays a very good Bruce Banner. The years of running and hiding are etched into his face and body – do I prefer him to Ruffalo? I don’t know – each man takes a very different approach to the character, neither of which I dislike.
  • Emil Blonsky. I haven’t read a lot of comics featuring Emil Blonksy or the Abomination, but the former marine’s decsent into a power hungry, uh, abomination felt quite believable as the movie progressed. You knew it was coming, it was never a surprise to anybody – except Thunderbolt Ross. But watching a slightly powered up Blonksy thinking he can go toe to toe with the Hulk is…. pretty awesome.
  • The Hulk looks awesome. I enjoy the look of the Hulk in the later MCU movies, but there’s something savage and raw about how this Hulk looks on screen.
  • The CGI holds up. Ten plus years is a long time in the world of technology, and the advancements are often noticeable in the films of yesteryear verses today. Not so here.

The movie does have its moments where it doesn’t quite measure up, though. The inherent charm of the early (and most of) the MCU movies is missing, but given that this is only the second movie that’s to be expected. the MCU hadn’t found its identity just yet. The chemistry between Liv Tyler’s Betty Ross and Edward Norton’s Bruce Banner is spotty at times, but it’s far from being a reason to avoid the movie.

There’s been a lot said over the years about the MCU, and a lot of people have, and will continue to, overlook this film because, they’ve heard it’s not as good as the rest of the movies released around this Phase in the MCU. It is. But as I mentioned before, it’s also harder to find; it isn’t on Disney+ right now, and I haven’t seen it on Netflix in awhile (bear in mind I live in Canada so this may be different for you).

Thankfully, I still have the DVD I purchased when the film first came out – one of only two MCU DVDs I have since I started going for Bluray with Iron Man 2. If you can find it, then it’s well worth checking out one of the most underrated movies in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.


Join us next week when we look at something else that is, for whatever reason, Underrated.

Around the Tubes

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The weekend is almost here! What geeky things are you all doing? Sound off in the comments below! While you wait for the weekend to begin, here’s some comic news and a review from around the web to start the day.

Variety – 14 People Arrested in Comic-Con Sex Trafficking Sting – Sad but not at all surprising. Big events bring out scum like this. Glad the operation was able to help some victims.

The Beat – Jim Zub signs multi-year CONAN deal with Heroic Signatures and Titan Comics – Awesome news!

FFXnow – ‘Spiderman’ rappels tower at Fairfax hospital to greet young patients – Always cool to see things like this.

Kotaku – Marvel Rivals Feels Like Overwatch Without All The Baggage – This is a good thing, right?

Comicbook – Junji Ito Inks Impressive Movie Deal With Fangoria, Others – Interesting.

The Mary Sue – Marvel Crew Members Slam Robert Downey Jr.’s $80 Million ‘Avengers’ Salary – As they should.

Review

The Beat – Excellent Property, Rejects For Residents Vol. 1

Marvel Television’s Agatha All Along gets its first teaser trailer

This Halloween season, Agatha Harkness returns

Experience the two-episode premiere of Marvel Television’s Agatha All Along on September 18 only on Disney+.

Agatha All Along stars Kathryn Hahn, Joe Locke, Sasheer Zamata, Ali Ahn, Maria Dizzia, Paul Adelstein, Miles Gutierrez-Riley, Okwui Okpokwasili, with Debra Jo Rupp, with Patti LuPone, and Aubrey Plaza. The executive producers are Kevin Feige, Louis D’Esposito, Brad Winderbaum, Mary Livanos and Jac Schaeffer. The directors for the series include Jac Schaeffer, Rachel Goldberg, and Gandja Montiero.

Fanhome Launches Marvel Movie Replicas Collection of Iconic Items from the MCU

In the great adventure of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, there are many instantly recognizable objects. As if in an imaginary museum, simply gazing at them is enough to bring back memories of the fantastic adventures experienced in the cinema, which have their counterparts in the great comic book sagas. With the Marvel Movie Replicas collection from Fanhome, Marvel fans can relieve the magnificent adventures of their favorite Super Heroes and Super-Villains.

Produced from the Marvel Studios Movie archives, the replicas in this collection have been recreated with impressive precision. Each model is based on original production materials and constructed from metal and ABS plastic components.

Build the Fanhome Marvel Movie Replicas collection with artifacts including:

  • Iron Man’s Mark 85 Helmet – Nanoparticles give the helmet greater adaptability, durability, power, and flexibility combination.
  • Captain America’s Shield – The primary piece of equipment used by Captain America, and an emblem of freedom.
  • Iron Spider Helmet – A powered exoskeleton that is similar to Tony Stark’s classic Iron Man design.
  • Mjolnir – The powerful enchanted war-hammer forged by the Dwarves of Nidavellir for the Asgardian Royal Family and used by Thor.
  • Black Panther Helmet – a screen accurate replica of the vibranium helmet worn by T’Challa in Marvel Studios’ Black Panther movie.
  • The Infinity Gauntlet – One of the most powerful objects in the Marvel universe and designed to hold the Infinity Stones.
  • Ant-Man’s helmet – Originally built to communicate with ants, this helmet was almost constantly worn by Scott Lang. 
  • The Tesseract – A crystalline cube-shaped container for the Space Stone, one of the all-powerful 6 Infinity Stones.
  • And many more

Throughout the subscription, collectors and MCU fans will deepen their knowledge about all these artifacts with an informative magazine that accompanies each month’s shipment. Each issue explores a particular hero or villain’s signature weapons and other equipment. Go behind the scenes with the people who brought these amazing props to life in comics, graphic novels, and the blockbuster films. Meet visionary creatives like Matt Fritchmanbetter known by the pen name Matt Fraction, the Eisner Award-winning Marvel comic book writer, as well as Salvador Larroca, the Spanish comic book artist who is widely acclaimed for his work on Iron Man and the X-Men, and Brian Michael Bendis, theAmerican comic book writer and artist who notably worked on Ultimate Spiderman and The New Avengers.

At various stages throughout the subscription, collectors also will receive exclusive gifts from Fanhome that include three full-color frame-worthy posters from the MCU (60x80cm / 23×31 inches), a ceramic mug with Marvel logo, a light-up miniature of Tony Stark’s Arc Reactor, and a miniature metal replica of Thor’s Mjolnir hammer (15cm / 6 inches).

Fans that upgrade to the Marvel Movie Museum Premium Subscription will receive several exclusive Iron Man helmets to expand the collection.

  • Mark 12 Helmet
  • Mark 15 Sneaky Helmet
  • Mark 17 Heartbreaker Helmet
  • Mark 25 Striker Helmet
  • Mark 33 Silver Centurion Helmet
  • Mark 38 Igor Helmet
  • Mark 39 Helmet
  • Mark 41 Bones Helmet

Vision gets a series as Paul Bettany returns and Star Trek: Picard’s Terry Matalas is tapped as Showrunner

Vision

Looks like we’ll finally find out what happened to Vision after WandaVision as a new series starring the Marvel character is in the works for Disney+. It’s set for 2026 and Paul Bettany will return for the role. Terry Matalas, who was an executive producer on Star Trek: Picard, will serve as the showrunner.

Vision has had a rough go in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. The character died at the hands of Thanos in Avengers: Infinity War. The character was resurrected by his beloved Wanda Maximoff in WandaVision. He was also rebuilt as a ghost white version with no memory of his part. The two versions battled it out at the end of the series with Wanda restoring the memory of the ghost white version and the one she resurrected to fade from existence. The show will presumably follow up on those events.

Deadpool & Wolverine are here to save the Marvel Universe

The first trailer for Deadpool & Wolverine launched today. The third Deadpool film is filled with double entendre. The early look plants a flag as to how it’ll stand out from the recent dip in Marvel films. The movie is the first Fox X-Men related film to be released under the control and banner of Marvel Studios and has a lot riding on its shoulders.

Deadpool & Wolverine is in theaters July 26.

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