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By The Numbers October 2016

Like in any industry, comic books and their companies listen most to one thing and that’s your money! What does your money tell them? What does it tell us as fans? What series do people say they adore but can’t seem to catch a break and what books to people hate that sell out? What are the trends? What looks good? What looks rough?

All these questions and more will be answered here, every month in ‘By The Numbers’ by comic writers, editors and fans, Glenn Matchett and Ray Goldfield.

Glenn Matchett is a comic writer and editor. He’s worked in the industry for 6 years but grew up reading comics. He is currently published with Outre Press, Nemeses Studios and Alterna! He is still hoping you order the IF Anthology at this very link!.

Ray Goldfield is a fan of comic books for going on 25 years, starting with the death of Superman. He is a writer and editor for Grayhaven Comics and is working on his first novel. Ray also does a weekly roundup of DC comic reviews for website Geekmom and they’re brilliantly entertaining. A few weeks ago, Ray did an interview with Scott Snyder and soon will be starring in a buddy comedy TV show with the writer!  That’s what he told me anyway.

We also do a podcast together with longtime buddy, Brandon James on iTunes with Rabbitt Stew or at the link here! Don’t ask, I didn’t pick the name. If you’d like to hear what me and Ray sound like, give it a listen! We talk about this sales chart (among many, many other things) here.

Full top 300 for October available here!

Greetings folks!  Sorry about the delay but sadly, life happens.  We’ll not keeping you waiting any further and dive in immediately with a look of the sales of comics from October 2016!

Glenn:  For the past few months, DC has dominated the top ten and the charts overall due to DC Rebirth and while in terms of market share, they lose out to Marvel, they manage to draw Marvel with four of the top ten (all of which, naturally star Batman) but the chart had plenty of new surprises and oddities.

Ray:  Marvel takes back the lead this month, yeah, but I think the overall picture of the month is not particularly good for them. We’ll talk about this more later, but they no longer seem to have any ability to launch titles featuring lesser characters at a decent level. For DC, meanwhile, some of the Rebirth effect is wearing off and we’re starting to see which titles are going to stay at a higher level permanently, which are resuming their past trajectory – and which couple of titles are going to run into trouble fast.

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Glenn:  Lets start out with the number 1 book which may be the most surprise and odd of them all.  Its not not any of the new Marvel launches or a DC book, its Big Trouble Little China/Escape New York from BOOM! which sells over 421.6k.  Huh?  How did this happen? Sure both properties that star actor Kurt Russel have their fan base but how did it manage that? Well they didn’t, Loot Crate did. The crossover was included in this month’s Loot Crate with a special variant exclusive to people subscribed to the monthly mystery box.  We saw the same effect roughly around the same time last year with IDW’s Orphan Black comic adaption. Its essentially a comic that will find itself in the hands of hundreds of thousands of people that wouldn’t have bothered if they’d known. Certainty a big financial boom for the comic and for BOOM! but the sales are artificially inflated quite a bit. This comic will tumble down to about 12-15k if not next month then certainty the next. Still, a win is a win! I hope they got to include a lot of promotional pages in those special Lootcrate editions for their own creator owned books. This is giving them a huge audience they don’t have access to at the moment and hopefully they’ll be able to take advantage of it. As a result however, everything else has slid down one slot lower than it normally would be as a result.

Ray:  I said this when it came to Orphan Black and Bravest Warriors, and I’ll say it again here – this is noise. There’s virtually no impact on future sales, and this book will fall down to its natural level when it resumes its standard distribution next month. I agree with you about the inevitable massive fall, but I think you might honestly be a bit too generous. I predict this will be under 10K next month with virtually no bounce. And I really wish Loot Crate numbers wouldn’t be included in Diamond’s chart or at least would come with the actual numbers aside from the Loot Crate orders included.

Glenn: Stuff like that would be nice as it would give this book a bit more of a realistic figure.  The chart would likely be vastly different if things like promotions/variants and stuff were removed.

Second up is the first of All New-All Different-NOW-With Added Sprinkles and Pixie Dust Marvel launches in Champions which sells over 328k. Marvel pushed this one HARD and it seems to have served well for the title that is spinning out of the previous Mark Waid written Avengers title.  This book revitalises an old Marvel property with a cast of its most popular young heroes and (insert YOUR least favorite here!).  Its a great hit for a book that is also a new incarnation of the Young Avengers series of old and seems to have picked up a great critical reception.  Its launched very favorable to some other titles that we’ll get to later but if it can manage sales of about 60-70k then it’ll be great so anything over that as the book finds its level is a bonus.

Ray: Champions seems like the one Marvel NOW! book that’s had the most good buzz behind it. You’ve got two fan-favorite creators, and an all-star cast of Marvel’s most popular young heroes. It strikes me that this is the closest Marvel’s ever come to a proper Teen Titans-style title (Young Avengers and Runaways were both original characters, while Young Allies featured more obscure heroes). That’s them filling a legit gap in the market with this book, and I think they’ll be rewarded. A settling point at around 70K sounds a bit right to me.

Glenn: Another new Marvel launch in a spin off book for the movie fresh Doctor Strange in a title featuring him and Sorcerers Supreme of the past and future. Doctor Strange and the Sorcerers Supreme launches with sales just under 150k which a lot more than I would have expected for a character who only recently has managed to support his own ongoing title for the first time in decades. This figure may be inflated by fact it was included in the Marvel’s Collectors Corps for the month of October but I’m not sure if those copies influence these numbers like it did with Loot Crate and the number one book. It obviously also helps that Doctor Strange has a big budget movie coming out which makes a new title starring him an easy sell. The latest issue of Doctor Strange the regular series is at 68 with sales of 41.2k, which is great but usually spin off books no matter who the character is sell less and Doctor Strange has never been able to support his own title, never mind split offs. The book will probably settle around the 15-20k range and be shuffled off this plane of mortal existence in 12 months.  Could be wrong however as the sales here have surprised.

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Ray: I wasn’t aware of Doctor Strange and the Sorcerers Supreme having a boost from the Collectors Corps box, but I’m not sure how big that was. I guess we won’t be able to see exactly how this book is genuinely doing until next month, but this is a healthy start. The book did get good reviews and Dr. Strange is very hot right now, so I think it can do better than you think. I think it winds up settling down at 20-25K, well enough to ride out its run. That being said, I also see this probably being a twelve-issue maxiseries that doesn’t get relaunched when the next relaunch comes along.

Glenn: No, you’re definitely right. There will be no relaunches here but we might see a few more Doctor Strange mini’s before all is said and done

Number 4 however is no surprise as its regular By The Numbers guest, Batman! Hey Batman!

Batman: Don’t bring me into this.

Glenn: Fair enough. The latest issue of the delayed added Dark Knight III sells over 133.6k which is still incredibly consistent. This book which is prestige format, experiences delays and a big price manages to still shift copies better than most regular ongoings. The Dark Knight brand is strong and I think this has been a big win for DC.  Like I say every month it comes out, it pays them here (their highest selling book this month) and will pay them in the form of collections until Death herself turns the lights out on the universe.

Ray:  #AlwaysBatman, I guess! The delays on DKIII have been significant, but with no ties to overall continuity, it doesn’t seem to have hurt it at all. Frank Miller still seems to have a major draw, and this will go down as one of DC’s more successful swings in recent years.

Glenn: 5 and 6 are both issues of Tom King’s Batman which sells over 129.8k and 126k respectively. The streak lives and the book seems to have found its level at a very, very, very good number. DC’s gamble to make their highest selling, most financially successful title month in, month out twice monthly has paid off in spades.  Not much more to be said, we’ll just see it again at around the same number no doubt.

Ray: The stability of Batman has been amazing. It’s still well above the line that Snyder and Capullo’s book ended at, although I expect it’ll find that level soon enough. Still, this really goes to show just how strong Batman is. We’ll keep everyone updated to see if it can make it to #52 above 100K just like the last run did!

Glenn: Issue 7 is the latest issue of Civil War II which sells over 118.6k.  This event has turned into a head scratcher as books set after it and spoiling its conclusion are starting to roll out this month and we still have an issue to go.  It looks like it’ll manage to finish in the six figure mark and has sold well in of itself but I think as a cross line event, the effect its had on the tie in books has been troubling to say the least.  I doubt we’ll be back in ten years for Civil War III where Tony and Captain Universe fight over who’s turn laundry day it is.

Ray: I expected Civil War II to suffer more from the constant delays and terrible buzz, but it seems like the low 100K range is the floor for a huge event like this. Still, I think it has to be considered a failure because of the genuinely toxic effect it has on its tie-ins, and the fact that it doesn’t seem to have been able to serve as an effective launchpad for the new line (much more on that later).

Glenn: 8 is the final issue and a massive sales bump for everyone’s favorite Sith lord, Dark Vader with sales of 111.3k, this one had a lot of variants which will have helped but I’d say people were probably interested how a book so well received would end. It’ll be interesting to see how Doctor Aphra performs when it launches as its essentially this titles successor. Strong ending for a book from one of Marvel’s most consistent lines right now.

Ray: Healthy boost for Darth Vader, and this finale got a pretty good amount of hype. I do think Doctor Aphra will be able to capitalize on that momentum. It definitely won’t be able to get the same sales that Darth Vader did on a regular basis, but I think it can perform similarly to Chewbacca or Kanan. If that’s the case, that will nicely show that Marvel’s original Star Wars characters are a franchise in and of themselves.

Glenn: All-Star Batman is number 9 with sales of just south of 107 and will probably jump below that six figure margin either next month or month after. I’d say the new storyline starting with issue 6 will give it a bump as that was always the pattern with Snyder’s time on Batman but even if it doesn’t, don’t feel too bad. The book is still $4.99 so even if is oversized, its still a big buy in for an ongoing so its sales are brilliant. If it can land at over 75k (spoilers: it will) its a great success. DC are letting Snyder do what he wants in his own little Bat corner and watching money magically appear in front of them.

Ray: For a $4.99 book that’s sort of on the side of the main line, this is still amazing. However, I do think it’s worth noting that next month will probably be the first Snyder Bat-title since the New 52 to sell under 6 figures. This is definitely a big hit either way, but I think that’s further proof that the “Batman” title is more powerful than any creator.

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Glenn: Final spot in the top ten is The Walking Dead from Image which sells over 91k. You know the drill. Walking Dead is the comic every other comic wishes it was. Business as usual.

Ray: Walking Dead, amazing as always. I wonder just how strong the numbers will be for its special 25 cent issue a few months from now, if they even count the sales like normally instead of as an incentive.

Glenn: If they are listed on the charts I wouldn’t be surprised if Walking Dead, Invincible and Outcast (which are all involved in the promotion you mentioned) are the top 3 selling books for that month.  Walking Dead doesn’t need a promotion like that so retailers will be chomping at the bit to be able to sell the book so cheap to some of the millions of fans that watch the TV show that haven’t gravitated over to the comic yet.

Number 11 is the first part of this years big Spider-Man story in Clone Conspiracy which sells over 90k on its debut. The big storyline that Dan Slott has been building for the last long while is finally here! I thought sales would have been higher but I know a few months ago, Slott did mention there did seem to be some confusion to retailers about this being a separate book while the main book (Amazing) only contained side stories. This is the first time Marvel have done this with Slott’s big Spidey stories so I’m wondering if some confusion led this to not crack to 100k mark (which I thought it would easily). I suppose if that’s the case we’ll see some big reorders and a bigger demand for issue 2! Still a very good number though and a lot better than these mini crossovers tend to do. We’ll see if the event can help launch some new books over the next few months.

Ray: That’s well lower than I would have expected from Clone Conspiracy. I was betting on easy six figures. It’s possible that retailers didn’t quite understand how important this was – but on the other hand, maybe they did, and as such they ordered it essentially just like the Amazing Spider-Man title with a slight boost, assuming this would perform like a family event for the fans of the title as opposed to a full-on event. Maybe a bit of a missed opportunity here, because no one does Marvel events these days like Slott and co.

For the record, Clone Conspiracy sold about 17K more than this month’s issue of Amazing Spider-Man, which was down at #24, a difference likely explained by the variant covers available.

Aside from Batman, three other DC Rebirth books land both their issues in the top 20 this month (or rather, top 21, given the strange #1 book this month). Those are Justice League, (12/13, 89k/85k), Detective Comics (14/20, 81K/74K), and The Flash (17/21, 76K/74K). Those are the titles that are clearly the most successful Rebirth titles, with Detective and Flash having popular, critically acclaimed runs and Justice League having all the top heroes and Bryan Hitch on board. Superman is also doing consistently well, landing two issues at 26 and 30, with sales of 69 and 67K. Wonder Woman is just behind at 31 and 34, with sales of 66K and 64K. The attrition is slow on these books, and it looks like they’re all going to firmly land themselves in the upper part of the chart for the foreseeable future. The news is a bit more mixed for other DC books that haven’t found their levels yet, though.

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Glenn: All success stories at this end for DC on Flash, Superman and Wonder Woman in particular. These books are all doing 20-30k or so better than they were, which is brilliant. Given that all these books are bi-monthly also just sweetens the honey pot.

Ray: There were two new limited series from Marvel that made it into the top twenty as well, and while their placement on the charts is similar, what the company was hoping from them likely isn’t. Deadpool: Back in Black is a throwaway flashback miniseries where Deadpool gets ahold of the Venom symbiote and chaos ensues. That managed to land at #15 with sales of 78K, predictably strong sales for Deadpool. Meanwhile, Death of X is the heavily hyped prequel to the upcoming IvX event, written by the writers of the two main titles from the franchises. That managed to land at #18 with sales of 75K. Both numbers are probably acceptable for a first issue, but I’d say this is an ill omen for the upcoming sales of IvX. Much more worrisome is that Death of X then promptly loses 16K and over 20 spots with its second issue the same month

Glenn: Deadpool is Deadpool and is usually good for a very decent mini launch. Venom is a character that despite spending the last 10 years or so as a very different version from the one that slobbers and threatens to eat your brains can still garner interest so a combination of the two is an easy win out of the gate. Its not something that will be a long term hit but its just a throwaway mini to add to the Deadpool section of the collection shelf so this is a good launch for that kind of thing.

Yeah, Death of X is an okay launch in of itself but not what you would consider for a book that’s meant to be the lead in to the big event. IvX is supposed to be 2017’s version of Civil War and if this is any indication, not many people seem overly bothered. Perhaps the actual event will generate a few more sales but this is a bit of a luke warm start to a mini that was promoted by Marvel as being so important.

Ray: Good news for Reborn #1, which lands in the top 20 with sales just under 75K at #19. Capullo is maybe the most popular artist in the industry at the moment, so this isn’t a surprise, and it’s worth noting that this is apparently the best sales for a Millarworld #1 since the first volume of Jupiter’s Legacy eons ago. Still, it’s strange to note that the much-hyped debut of a Millar/Capullo book sold 16K less than a standard issue of The Walking Dead.

Glenn: Great launch for Reborn which had one of the best selling creator owned writers in comics and like you said, possibly the best artistic commercial draw out there at the moment. This will be a high performer throughout its run and be a great collection seller for years to come, especially when the inevitable movie adaption is released. The fact that it sold so much less than Walking Dead is probably another underscore of how ridiculously unstoppable that book is rather than a reflection on this one I’d wager.

Ray: We’ve got two new Bendis books right next to each other at 22 and 23, with Jessica Jones selling 74K and Infamous Iron Man selling 73K. Jessica Jones has always been a low-selling cult title that was previously part of the MAX line, so I think we can call these first issue sales a major success. No way of knowing how it’ll sell down the line, but this is a good start. On the other hand, a new Iron Man title not even being able to scratch the top 20 with its first issue? That strikes me as an unmitigated disaster, and is probably the first really bad sign we’ve seen as to how this new Marvel relaunch is being received. I’m sure next month relaunch of Invincible Iron Man will sell better, but how much better? The titles spinning directly out of Civil War II don’t seem to be off to a strong start.

Glenn:  You’ve nailed it here, although the two books are right next to each other and have the same writer, they are very different stories. The Alias ongoing was never a strong seller and the Pulse wasn’t either so this is a great start and the book is probably good for 35-45k at least which would be brilliant for an adult orientated comic starring a character who has been a supporting player for a few years now. This book will have enough juice to last as long as Bendis/Gaydos want it so hopefully Marvel doesn’t relaunch it to death.

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The last Iron Man launch (not counting International) by Bendis sold well over 200k and was the top selling book of that month so yeah, the difference here was staggering.  True it stars a villain and those books generally don’t so as well but this is a continuation of Doctor Doom’s story from Secret Wars from only 2 years ago, its not as if the book has had a big lead in because it has. This title is essentially a continuation of the dreadfully selling International Iron Man so its a decent bump compared to that and will likely sell higher in the long run but not by much and this books rebut bids ill for a lot of other launches. Sadly, this is one of the wins of this months Marvel launches.

Ray: The second issues of Trinity and Teen Titans fall to a still healthy 65K this month, next to each other at 32/33. Batman Beyond surprisingly holds very well too, selling 60K at #39. However, it’s worth noting that for BB and TT, these issues are still labeled as #1 due to the Rebirth issue. We’ll have to see how the #2 issue holds, because there’s a title down the list that illustrates that there’s a serious retailer effect when there’s two #1 issues and the real attrition doesn’t start until the issue labeled #2.

Books like Nightwing, Suicide Squad, and Harley Quinn are still selling healthy numbers, but what’s worrisome for them is that they’re consistently losing 3-6K between issues in the same month. They’re all at healthy numbers in the 60K range right now and well above their pre-Rebirth numbers, but the long-term trend is worrisome. The effect is the same for both Green Lantern books, Green Arrow, and Aquaman, but they’re lower on the charts – making those drops in between issues in a month look all the grimmer. We’re starting to see books like those four drop below the 50K range about five months in.

Glenn: If most of those books can stay above 40-45k that would still be a large victory for DC. Where Marvel has been dominating the last year or so is the middle so if DC can take that from them, then they won’t be doing too badly. These are still some very good numbers but yes, we’re at a point where we need to see them slowing down.

Ray: The one book that seems to be beating the Rebirth attrition trend besides Batman is Action Comics, which holds steady this month in the mid-50K range, landing two issues next to each other at 44/45. This title started low and has had the steadiest performance in the entire line since then.

Glenn: Selling about 15k higher than where it used to and like you said, incredibly stable. The Superman led books are selling better than they have in years and since that’s a puzzle DC has been repeatedly trying to solve, they’ll be more than happy.

Ray:  And Supergirl #2 lands at #58 with sales of 45K – a full 50% drop from its second first issue to its actual second issue. That’s really troubling, as it seems the sales for the books with a #1 on the cover may have been heavily inflated. Still, 45K is well above the level Supergirl had been selling for a long time, and the book is being received well, so I can see it finding its level very quickly from here.

Glenn: Same here. It is a big drop but nothing to be alarmed at yet. Even if it drops another 15k I’d say that DC would be very happy. I would have thought the TV show would have brought new eyes to a book starring the girl of steel but if it can land around 45k maybe that includes the new audience?

Ray:  Now that neither book is inflated by an extra #1, the two Batgirl books have landed right around each other at 40K, with the main Batgirl book three spots higher at #69, and Birds of Prey selling only a few hundred copies less. Still decent numbers for Batgirl compared to where the last run ended, but the Rebirth boost is wearing off fast with these two.

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Glenn: Its interesting to see the books paired together so closely, almost as if they’re being treated the same because they have Batgirl in them even though they’ll both have very different voices and dynamics. That’s a very good number historically for Birds Of Prey in particular but as we’ve said, the sales need to settle here before the smiley faces become neutral before finally becoming sad.

Next new Marvel launch is the latest Inhuman superstar Mosiac.  Oh wait, it only managed over 44.3k at 61. This is another new Inhuman character that Marvel says is a thing that turns out not to be a thing.  I have to give Marvel credit put apart from Ms. Marvel, they just can’t get the market to care about new Inhuman characters. This will be one that will be not long for this world.

Ray: Yeah, Mosaic very much looks like an 8-12 issue miniseries to me, especially without the likeliness that it would do better in digests/digital the way Ms. Marvel and Moon Girl apparently do. Ms. Marvel was a unicorn, in that it is an original character selling well without any big name attached. This is not going to duplicate that success.

Glenn: Underlining that point further is that Mosiac barely outsold Cage which is at 62 with sales of over 44k. If this was a new Luke Cage title then it wouldn’t be anything to write home about but its not. This is a much delayed, out of continuity mini by an artist who doesn’t usually do comics. Its something that to me, would only appeal to a certain part of the market so with that taken under consideration, this is a great launch. After all this time, Marvel isn’t probably expecting much from this book so if i can do about 15-20k until it ends that’ll be more than fine.

Ray: Cage is only a four-issue miniseries, as well. Based on these numbers, it’s likely that this is going to be a modest hit for Marvel, even if a lot of the fans picking this up based on the Netflix series are likely to be very confused by this version.

Glenn: The last issue of Invincible Iron Man sells just over 44k and is one of the higher mid level performers for the company at the moment. Can newcomer Riri Williams do better?  We’ll see in a few months. Myself and Ray seem to disagree whether Riri’s new book can crack six figures so let us what you think about that one numberites.

To the shock of no one, Great Lakes Avengers (minus their most popular character) debuts at 71 with sales of just over 40k. Wonderful numbers for a GLA book if we were a few issues in but not the best launch in the world by quite a fair margin. Take your bets now whether it can outlast Mosiac.

Ray: Marvel actually put a lot of promotion into Mosaic. It didn’t pay off, but they’re likely to give that a bit more rope than GLA. GLA is likely gone quicker – although not as quick as some comics we’ll talk about later.

Glenn: Given how much Marvel wants to make Inhumans and their various books work, they may be willing to take a hit on Mosiac but yeah, GLA won’t be given as much rope. I wonder even if Squirrel Girl had been involved if it would have helped that much.

A new Serenity comic launches at 73 with sales over 39k making it the highest selling Dark Horse title this month. The good will this property has after its cancellation over 15 years ago is astonishing.  The fan base is incredibly loyal and this book launched a lot better than I would have expected. It outsold a lot of new Marvel launches (yes, there’s still more of those to come…yes we know) and is surprisingly one of the few valuable properties Dark Horse still has in its catalogue.  Always good to see Dark Horse in the top 100 given their current problems.

Ray: Firefly‘s fanbase isn’t huge (if it was, it would have lasted on Fox! *cries*) but what they are is incredibly loyal. They’ll follow this property anywhere. That may not be enough for a TV show or movie, but it definitely is a nice starting point for a comic book.

Glenn: The second issue of the Young Animal flagship title, Doom Patrol lands at 79 with sales over 37.8k.  Still a great number for a Doom Patrol book that is being released separate from the main DC line. This is double or even triple than any Vertigo books which for lack of comparison for the new line is where I think Young Animal is measured against. We still have plenty of room to fall and still call it good news, there’s more great numbers from DC’s new line further down the charts in a bit also.

Ray: Thus far, Young Animal is looking like a nice surprise for DC. I was expecting acceptable early numbers, but this is much higher than I saw coming. I think a big part of this may be the fanbase of Gerard Way, who is a massively popular music star and some of his fans might have jumped over to his oddball take on DC. We’ll talk more about two Young Animal books later, one with Way on board and one without.

Glenn: It can’t be all good news at DC as Cyborg issue 2 crashes all the way down to 80 with sales just over 37.7k and then issue 3 at 98 with sales just over 32.5k making it seem like it’ll definitely be out of the top 100 next month. It seems the book has promptly been turned into a monthly which will slow the bleeding in theory but this is one book where the Rebirth magic hasn’t worked. The market isn’t interested in Cyborg as a solo hero, its that simple. DC are trying to make him a thing given how high profile he is in their other media but no one cares.  These Cyborg issues are still returnable by the way so once that stops, expect it to fall even further.

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Ray: I’m going to make an analogy here – Cyborg = Captain Marvel. Both are characters that DC and Marvel respectively have decided should be headliners and solo title stars. Both are starring in upcoming movies. Despite this, the companies can’t seem to make a solo title starring these characters work. Captain Marvel is on her fifth relaunch, while Cyborg is only on his second, but the collapse is accelerating. Even with the monthly schedule slowing down the decline, this will likely be the lowest-selling Rebirth title in only a matter of months at this pace.

Glenn: That’s a very apt comparison and even throwing some a-list talent at each book isn’t a guarantee so its doubtful DC or Marvel will do that. I’d say Captain Marvel will be due for another relaunch before so long, as for Cyborg…he might be getting a regular guest star in Batman…who will also have his name on the cover.

People care even less though about the new ongoing* from Marvel in Prowler #1 which starts off at just over 37k.  Decent enough start for a D lister like Prowler and I could almost live with it if it was the start of a random mini but this isn’t that. This is one of the launches of the all new Marvel line and spinning out of Clone Conspiracy. Given those two factors, a launch of 37k is quite startling and alarming. This indicates a lot of similar numbers for future launches but actually…we’re not done with new Marvel launches just yet.  No seriously, there’s ones that did less than this. No seriously!

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Ray:  Yeah, there’s nothing good to say about Prowler‘s numbers. A Prowler title was always going to be a hard sell, but I assumed the tie-in would boost it a bit. I can see this being a one-arc-and-done book like Black Knight or Weirdworld, but there’s something more worrisome at work here – we saw it with Civil War II, and now it’s happening with Clone Conspiracy. Could it be that Marvel events have stopped having a positive effect on their tie-ins altogether? If this pattern continues with IvX and Monsters Unleashed, Marvel’s event-crazy strategy might have had serious long-term negative effects on their line.

Glenn: For over 10 years, Marvel has gotten a lot of good results from events, lead ins and aftermath but in the last number of years, the results have been increasingly dwindling. There are a number of factors that could have an entire article on its own but no matter what the reason is, its happening. If the current pattern holds then there’s going to be some troubling numbers into 2017 for Marvel.

Ray: The digital-first Deadpool mystery-comedy “Too Soon” manages to sell 36K at #85. Given that Marvel already sold a lot of copies of this online, they have to be happy with this. Deadpool lifts all boats!

Glenn: Economics are very different with digital first so like you said, now that this book is in print these numbers are grand. The seemingly never ending output of Deadpool mini’s will likely continue for the foreseeable future as books starring him are an easy win.

Ray: One thing I love is when something really strange and out-of-nowhere shows up on the charts, that’s the case for this month’s Kiss #1, from Dynamite, which sells 36K at #86. That’s right, the make-up heavy rock band. Gene Simmons gotta eat, I suppose. How long till Dynamite puts Grumpy Cat in makeup for the inevitable crossover?

Glenn: I’d buy that crossover! I guess retailers hoped that KISS fanatics would come into comic stores to get their latest bit of the bands merchandise?  Its an unexpected one like you said and even though its likely issue 2 will sink, I bet Dynamite is very pleased with this one by quite a fair margin.

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Ray: Wonder Woman celebrated her 75th anniversary last month, and DC put out a massive one-shot anthology featuring dozens of top creators to celebrate. Anthologies are usually a hard sell, especially with a $7.99 price tag, so the numbers here of 36K at #87 are pretty solid. The presence of Gail Simone, among others, made this a must-read for many Wonder Woman fans.

Glenn: The anniversary and creators was the big selling point here.  True, number 1’s will always attract a bump but characters with a legacy like Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman will have things like this that can’t be artificially created or messed about with to produce a sales bump. There may be some interest given how big a year Wonder Woman has ahead of her too and at that price point, 36k is rather brilliant.

Ray: The other two Young Animal books that debuted this month had distinctly smaller debuts than Doom Patrol, which isn’t a surprise since they feature characters many fans might never have heard of and have lesser-known creative teams. Cave Carson has a Cybernetic Eye, which had Gerard Way co-writing and Michael Avon Oeming on art, was able to swing 35K at #89, while Shade the Changing Girl, by Vertigo/Indie mainstay Cecil Castelucci, landed at #100 with 32K. We’ll see how well these books hold, but these numbers are still 2-3 times higher than what the average Vertigo launch does.

Glenn: Lower than even the second issue of Doom Patrol but great launch numbers for some truely obscure properties. If these books had a Vertigo label on them, they would have charted much lower as you said so its clear that the Young Animal brand does have a strong identity right out of the gate. Even if the books can do about half that would be brilliant but I think these are books that are going to find their audience very fast given their critical acclaim and general buzz.

Ray: It didn’t do the same numbers as this month’s other big Image launch, but Brian Azzarello and Eduardo Risso’s return to monthly comics in Image’s Moonshine had a healthy debut with 34.5K at #90. This will likely hold very well and do even better in trade, so chalk this up as another win for Image.

Glenn: A big win for Image as doubtlessly this book wouldn’t have performed nearly as well with Vertigo which they printed their previous creator owned collaboration, 100 Bullets with. Image clearly sit at the top when it comes out for the potential audience for creator owned which means they will continue to be the first choice for most big name creators. Rebirth and Marvel NOW! may grab the majority of headlines but Image just puts out quality books by great creators and deliver sales steadily on new properties unlike the big two really can anymore.

Ray: Random crossover He-Man/Thundercats from DC didn’t get much hype or much in the way of positive reviews, but despite this it managed to pull just under 33K at #96, a decent showing for two old-school nostalgia properties. A lot of people played with the toys as kids, I guess? This is well above the numbers that the He-Man series DC used to put out would do.

Glenn: A lot of nostalgia at work here. Perhaps retailers felt that a lot of fans of classic 80’s cartoons would be coming into their stores? Its one that launched a lot higher than I expected, that’s for sure. I doubt it’ll have a sustained level of these sales but still a very good launch.

Ray: Worth noting that this month the low-water mark for a Rebirth title is New Super-Man #4 with 31.7K at #102. However, the decline here seems to have slowed a little bit and based on this month’s numbers, both Blue Beetle and Cyborg will be below it next month.

Glenn: New Super-Man launched very handsomely but has now crashed to one of the lowest Rebirth books but given its an all new character, these numbers are very good. If it can prove itself to have a steady audience around here then I doubt too many people will be unhappy.

Ray: That’s basically where the good news for DC ends this month, though, as the new miniseries without the Rebirth or Young Animal branding all bombed, to a one. We start with Death of Hawkman #1, a title that changed its name to something more…dramatic after being solicited. I don’t know if orders increased due to the name change, or if not enough people cared about Hawkman, but #103 with sales of 31K can’t have been what DC was looking for here.

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Glenn: Like with Raven last month, the decision not to ‘share’ the Rebirth branding clearly hurt the book here. I can certainty see the logic of DC wanting to protect that brand but by not using it, they told retailers and fans that this book didn’t matter. I’m guessing this was a book that wa sin production before Rebirth was a thing, otherwise the logic with bothering at all as the book itself seems a damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation is puzzling.

Ray:  There’s a random Doctor Strange tie-in mini, Mystic Apprentice, which does 31K at #104. Nothing special, but for one of the inventory stories that Marvel dresses up and ships out when a movie hits, not bad.

Now we come to maybe the worst bit of news for Marvel this month, and that’s the debut of Solo, the first book spinning out of Deadpool and the Mercs for Money. #105 with sales just over 30K. Gong. Now, this is awful on any conceivable level, but the news is actually far worse. This is the first of three books starring these characters, with Foolkiller coming in November and Slapstick in December. Moreover, this is the one of those three that actually has the Deadpool writer, Gerry Duggan, attached. Based on that, does anyone think those other two books has a chance of doing better? I wouldn’t be surprised at all to see all three of these books gone after 5-8 issues in the vein of Black Knight or Starbrand and Nightmask. 

Glenn: While Solo lives, sales die. I’m not sure what the logic was here beyond ‘well lets see what happens’ but I think everyone predicted this was going to bomb and it has. Solo is a 90’s castaway that no one cares about anymore. He’s not the reason behind people buying Mercs For Money (spoilers: it’s Deadpool) and no one was asking for this book. Irish comic shop, the Big Bang is one of the biggest comic shops in the world and they reported issue two of the book sold three copies…total. Next month is going to be ugly.

Ray: The hits keep coming for Marvel this month. You know Guardians of the Galaxy, Spider-Gwen, and Ms. Marvel? Three of the biggest bright spots in Marvel’s line for a while? They’re all under 30K, out of the top 100, and falling fast. This section of the chart is basically a graveyard of Marvel books that should not be out of the top 100 – Captain America, Hulk, Black Widow, Uncanny Inhumans, etc – but these three are especially depressing given how far and fast they’ve fallen. Something’s gone very wrong with Marvel’s line over the last year, and they’re running out of time to figure it out.

Glenn: Spider-Gwen is particularly depressing as it has now been taken over in sales by Gwenpool (91 at just over 34.3k).  We’ve covered extensively how Marvel dropped the ball with the title but given how popular she remains outside of comics (merchandise and what-not) the book will probably get a lot of rope. All the books you mentioned you would think would be doing a lot better there’s a lot of reasons for the overall stagnation in the Marvel line. They’ll keep leading in market share as long as they keep churning out more books than anyone else but at the moment, under a microscope the whole house of cards is very wobbly.

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Ray:  Future Quest, the brightest spot in DC’s Hanna-Barbera line, has stabilized quickly in the mid-20K range and is selling around the same level as a lot of those Marvel books at #115, to put this into perspective. It ships a second issue this month that only sheds about 1K, which is great attrition. Scooby Apocalypse, which started with much higher numbers, is around the same level at only 200 copies and four spots lower.

Glenn: Future’s Quest has been graduated to an ongoing hasn’t it?  It seems that the old school feel its going for in terms of these properties has worked. I would say it’ll soon be the highest seller out of the new Hanna Barbara line which shows sometimes, the key to success is to do whats worked for over 50 years.

Ray: This is also where we’re seeing Image books like Seven to Eternity and Kill or Be Killed settle down to, a historically healthy number for Image books. Not the top tier, but likely to stay strong for the long haul

I’m actually a bit surprised by how well Raven’s second issue holds, as the book stays above 20K at #123. The first issue numbers were pretty weak, as were all of the non-Rebirth minis (more on that later), but there may actually be a small audience for this one, given her fanbase from outside comics.

Glenn: Raven gets a good amount of exposure due to the Teen Titans Go cartoon and such so yeah, she has a steady fan base. People may also be interested in having legendary writer Marv Wolfman back on a character he created when Teen Titans was DC’s biggest franchise (no really, it was) also.

Ray: Midnighter and Apollo #1 at #128 with sales of 20K…it’s not great. At the same time, I don’t think DC was expecting much more, given the sales of Midnighter. This strikes me as a bit of a gift, the same way Omega Men was allowed to continue to 12 despite the disastrous sales. Steve Orlando is one of DC’s brightest new stars since, well, Tom King, so they’re allowing him to continue his critically acclaimed book in miniseries form despite the low sales. Good on them, and I hope this book finds its audience in trades.

Glenn: There is a mix of creator placation and also probably because an editor liked his pitch and thought ‘eh, why not?’  In a few months, Warren Ellis will attempt to bring back some interest to some Wildstorm characters so that may lead to the trade of this and Orlando’s Midnighter run proving worth having on shelves at that point.

Ray: Vision finally does dip under 20K for its final issue at #132, which is still fantastic attrition for this title. This will likely sell hundreds of thousands of copies in trade over the next few decades, so Marvel’s going to be very happy they greenlit this before King dipped over to DC town.

Glenn: I’ve not read Vision but it seems to be deemed as an instant classic so yeah, more than worth Marvel’s time. A Vision series selling over 20k over the majority of its run is a notable achievement. This would have been a wonderful platform to launch King onto a top franchise and watch the money roll in but DC got there first, oops.

Ray: And the best-selling new Vertigo debut of the last few months isn’t an original Josh Williamson thriller, it’s not the return of Fables, it’s…a comic sequel to the 80’s vampire movie The Lost Boys. This does have Tim Seeley on board as writer, but still, 19.8K is very impressive given Vertigo’s recent struggles. Maybe there was a hidden group of Corey fans who came out in droves?

Glenn: Lost Boys is a serious cult favorite, to me its the ideal 80’s film and fans have been incredibly loyal to it, much like Firefly but instead of 15 years, you’re talking 30. Having Seeley write a vampire book after the Blade debacle likely garnered some interest too. Honestly, I think DC is fortunate they found out they still had this property (it was down the back of the sofa), any indie company would have loved to have a property like this one.

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Ray: It’s no Haunted Mansion, but 18.2K at #138 is a bit better than I expected for Enchanted Tiki Room, easily the oddest choice of comic based on a Disney attraction yet. This will likely do most of its business in trade form at Disney World for years to come, so I imagine Disney got what they wanted out of this.

Speaking of odd comics on the charts, a one-shot where Archie teams up with the Ramones, written by the creator of Five Kids Walk Into a Bank – good for 18K at #140. Archie’s certainly chasing the unusual lately, and it seems to be working out for them. At the very least, they’re certainly not predictable anymore.

It doesn’t have any household names attached, so the lower debut of new Image book Cannibal (17K at #144) is perfectly acceptable for this title by a former Flash and Injustice writer, Brian Buccellato.

Glenn: About what you’d expect (maybe a bit higher since Buccelletto did co-write Manapul’s Flash run) from this type of thing. Will probably land a bit higher than the standard non big name Image number of around 8-10k.

Ray: More pain for DC’s new miniseries as their much-hyped Vigilante: Southland miniseries lands at #150 with sales of just over 16K. These numbers are going to be incredibly ugly by the time the end of the mini rolls around, and we’re really starting to see a “Tale of Two DCs” with the gulf between Rebirth and everything else.

Glenn: I wonder if DC had waited until the character had debuted on Arrow if they’d had gotten more interest?  Maybe a little but not a lot. DC has got some serious momentum going on but books like this are very reminiscent of their mistakes of the past and the sales clearly reflect that. This isn’t the DC people are interested in anymore.

Ray: The month’s other big Image launch, Green Valley, by Max Landis and Marvel artist Giuseppe Camuncoli, has a surprisingly weak launch at #155 with 16K. I expected more given the names attached, but Landis has a mixed reputation and retailers may have ordered cautiously as a result.

Glenn: Landis is a big name and Camuncoli is the regular artist on Amazing Spider-Man so yeah you would have thought this could have done slightly below Moonshine. There was a very mixed response to the recent Superman mini Landis wrote so maybe along with his reputation, retailers didn’t want to take the risk as you suggest. The question now is that if anyone will come in wanting it when its not necessarily on the shelves to remind them it exists?

Ray: The last of DC’s new miniseries, Deadman: Dark Mansion of Forbidden Love (love that name!) had the lowest debut, just over 15K at #159. However, this is a double-sized $5.99 comic with three issues released bimonthly, so it might hold a bit better than the others. This is clearly an experimental project and it shows in the sales, but it’s closer in sales to some of the other minis than I might have expected.

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Glenn: That is a great title and given the price point, the news is slightly better. I’d say that next month this book will be put to shame sales wise by Image’s After Death which has the same price point and is also 3 issues. I would have imagined Deadman would have fallen under the same net as the other Young Animal properties so perhaps there is a lost opportunity there. Perhaps Way had his pickings of properties as part of his DC deal and Deadman got left out in the cold as a result?

Just below it is the latest Star Trek mini titled Boldly Go from IDW which sells just over 14.6k, about standard for a new Trek launch as we discussed in last months charts at length.

Selling 14.5k is the newest chapter in Jeff Lemire’s Valiant epic in Bloodshot: USA. This is the highest Valient launch in a bit due to Lemire’s name and the fans of the previous Bloodshot series likely just shuffling over here. I think this is the closing chapter of Lemire’s tenure on the property  and the sales are off to a solid start.

Ray: Yeah, Bloodshot Reborn has been a decent seller for Valiant since the start, and this is a nice jump for the final arc as a miniseries. I do think it probably debuted about six month’s before Lemire’s career really exploded, and a Bloodshot run by him today would likely do even better, but Valiant has to be happy with this. Lemire is probably the top-name creator they’ve ever had on board.

Glenn: We see Mockingbird crash to an end with 8 with sales just over 14.3k. It’s not the lowest selling Marvel ongoing so she won’t be alone for long and as we’ve discussed earlier, she’ll have some company soon.

Ray: For all the sad drama surrounding Mockingbird, it was a title that never actually got much attention while it was running. It was one of many casualties from the last relaunch – and as we’ve talked about in this column, many more are coming.Glenn: On its second issue, Gotham Academy sells just over 13.8k at 167. This is roughly 20k or so less what it would have sold if someone had stuck a Rebirth banner on it. Its not disastrous given the books history, its always been a cult book but the opportunity to increase its audience continues to puzzle me.

Ray: That’s a pretty rough fall for Gotham Academy, losing over 1/3rd of its sales from its modest first-issue debut. It’s a cult comic that may do well in digital and trades, so I hope DC shows it the same rope Marvel showed to Runaways back in the day.Glenn: Dynamite relaunches James Bond again with a new series subtitled ‘Hammerhead‘ which also sells over 13.8k. Bond has always been at his most popular on the big screen and now that Warren Ellis has moved on from him, I doubt Dynamite could have expected much better.

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Ray: Yeah, Bond has proven to be one of Dynamite’s most resilient licensed properties recently, and they’ve resisted the urge to do spin-off titles for each of the Bonds and several supporting characters, so the sales are looking pretty stable. Dynamite doesn’t really have many top-level hits, so this is a good debut.Glenn:  In their biggest launch to date, small publisher Black Mask releases Kickstarter funded Black to sales of just over 12.3k. Given what is currently happening in the news at the moment, the message behind this book seems more important than ever and it seems to have garnered a little buzz. I can see this finding its audience very promptly and doing very well in collections for the company. This was a big grab for Black Mask and I’m happy the company has managed to land this book relatively strongly.

Ray: Black is an interesting case, because the book was essentially pre-sold before Black Mask even put it up, with the incredibly successful Kickstarter. I’m wondering if this is a model we’ll see more small publishers taking – picking up independent books once they’ve already found their audience.Glenn: That’s an interesting point. We saw the same thing with Image when it chose to publish the Kickstarter funded Five Ghosts. Small press companies like Alterna have actually felt it more advantageous to offer a book through Kickstarter than through diamond which is interesting.

Just below that at 177, Dynamite launches a new Betty Boop comic that sells 12.3k.  I…erm…well…you see…Ray?

Ray:  …She can team up with Pink Panther and the Three Stooges, maybe? I don’t know why forgotten old cartoons have been getting such a resurgence in comics lately, but this is actually a decent debut considering the subject matter.Glenn: Again, maybe companies are just raiding the cupboards for properties they happen to have a hold off and throwing them out there to see what interest they can gather. Maybe it can make its money back in trade form at the Universal theme parks? Then again, perhaps not.

Another new launch by some heavy duty creators is Aftershock’s Shipwreck by Warren Ellis and Phil Hester.  This is the biggest creative duo Aftershock has managed to get together and sales respond appropriately with just over 12.2k. Aftershock is still very small despite the talent they’ve been able to attract but this is a solid enough hit for a company that isn’t very old at all.  If they can show creators they can deliver a solid potential readership, they might get more big names as the months go on.shipwreck

Ray: I think this is Aftershock’s biggest debut yet, which isn’t a surprise given that both creators have a long track record of hits. We’ll see how it holds from month to month, but if they keep picking up top-tier creators like this, they might be able to carve out a place in the market.Glenn: The second issue of Frank Cho‘s Skybourne lands at 182 with sales just under 12k. Given how big Cho is, I’m still surprised this isn’t doing better but these are solid enough sales. As Cho continues to be at the center of a lot of controversy in the comics world, this may be effecting his sales draw as a creator owned guy and its not as if his Hulk run was anything to write home about sales wise but its likely more important to him to be able to deliver a middling sales book that allows his creative freedom over anything else.

Ray: We’ve talked before about how Boom seems to have a hard time launching new creator-owned books, and I think a part of that comes down to promotion. They have a very strong brand when it comes to teen books like Lumberjanes, but their regular line seems to struggle. Frank Cho is a big name, but I knew very little about this book before it launched.

Glenn: Every month I feel like I’m reporting a new Transformers launch from IDW.  This month its Revolution which sells just under 12k at 183. Its Transformers, the audience is what it is.

Ray: Black Hammer continues to be the most stable book on the charts, losing only roughly 300 copies from #3 as #4 charts at #171 with sales of 13.3K. The buzz and quality of this book is quickly turning it into Dark Horse’s first lasting hit in a long time.

A strong debut from Albatross Press for #1, their new horror anthology, which sells just over 10K at 190. This is probably explained by the fact that the creator is Eric Powell, who built a small but devoted fanbase during his long tenure at Dark Horse. They followed him here, so this is a pretty big get for the up-and-coming publisher.

Glenn: Powell also drew a very brief stint on Action Comics many moons ago but of course is best known for his work on The Goon, so yeah a big grab for a company I’ve only recently started to hear about. A lot of small press companies like to release anthology works and sometimes, they don’t work but glad to see this one have a half decent launch.

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Ray: Also just over 10K at #191 is the return of a long-time creator-owned institution – Love and Rockets Magazine #1, published by Fantagraphics. This is new stories by the original creative team, and while Love and Rockets has never been a mainstream hit, it’s one of those books that will have an audience that follows it wherever it goes. We don’t see Fantagraphics on the charts often, because they do most of their business in trades, so this is definitely a win for them.

Glenn:  It seems there is still a fan base for these characters on a montly basis. If Fantographic’s business is based solely on trades then this title charting here could come as a pleasant surprise.

Ray: Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur stays in the four-digit range, selling 9.5K at #196. I said it before, but Marvel is definitely seeing something here that we’re not, because big two comics don’t survive at this level. The book is starting its new arc in November, but with no re-numbering, I doubt it will move the needle.

Glenn: This could be a book supported by digital sales or trades or any number of things but its a Marvel book getting outsold by a lot of other stuff by publishers the vast majority of comic fans are unaware of. Either Marvel is taking a hit on this one for other reasons or like you say, its performing elsewhere. If it is a book that performs digitally better, it may be better to release it first there and then repackage for print later, surely it would make them a bit more money?

Ray: There were quite a few Image books launching this month, and the bottom rung is Romulus #1, the latest Top Cow title by Bryan Hill, which only manages to muster 9.5K at #197. Top Cow hasn’t had a new hit in a long time, and this book didn’t really attract any critical attention when it launched, so the weak numbers aren’t a surprise.

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Glenn: We talked about Top Cow last month and how they’re a brand that fails to create any excitement any more. I doubt their books are held to the same standard that regular Image ones are so they might be happy enough with this? I don’t really recall them charting anything in a long time so anything might be a win.

Ray: Frostbite sheds 4K copies from its first issue, going down to about 9.3K, just out of the top 200. Needless to say, there is no real good news for Vertigo here, if a well-reviewed genre title by a top DC creator can’t muster higher numbers.

Glenn: Still slightly higher than Williamson’s creator owned books at Image but yeah…I don’t think much more needs to be said about Vertigo. I’d say that this time in a year or two, projects like this are more likely to be released under the Young Animal banner and Vertigo to be basically used to produce library stock and the odd mini here and there involving Sandman or whatever.

Ray: Nighthawk wraps up with just under 9K copies at #204. Womp womp. It’s almost as if trying to spin individual titles out of a team with middling sales to begin with is a terrible idea. (Looks pointedly at the Mercs for Money)

Glenn: The books fan base was small but seemed to be enjoying the book so it sucks for them seeing the book go away so quickly. For fans of these types of books, it must create some frustration towards Marvel who have to suspect that the titles aren’t going to garner the sales to keep them going when the green light is given.

Ray: The slide for the new Fables spin-off continues, with the second issue of Everafter only mustering about 8,4K at #213. It’s already selling below Lucifer, which is almost a year older. This franchise is officially well past its prime, and bringing it back was probably a poor move.

Glenn: On paper, one of the premier Vertigo properties coming back probably seemed like a good idea and its worked somewhat for Lucifer (the TV show might help there) but not with Fables. There doesn’t seem to be much interest as fans know the ‘proper’ story is done. This isn’t Harry Potter and the Cursed Child people, no one wants to see Fables continue on at this point.

Ray: Crossovers seem to be very much in vogue right now, and one of the oddest is the Dynamite miniseries Army of Darkness/Xena: Forever and a Day, combining two of creator Sam Raimi’s cult properties, which kicks off at #217 with just under 8.1K. It was written by controversial DC writer Scott Lobdell, which may have brought in a few DC fans – but I’m not sure it was the best move to bring in Xena fans.

Glenn: What an odd team up. Sometimes these team ups make little sense to me and just get drawn out of a fishbowl of whatever properties the company seems to have and/or can agree to with someone else. Beyond having a creator in common, I’m not sure how Evil Dead meets Xena can gel. Both franchises have a solid following to this day but not many of them seem to be interested in the bizarre crossover.

Ray: The latest Dark Tower miniseries kicks off from Marvel, selling just over 7.9K, which is pretty standard numbers. It feels like this line of books has been going for about ten years now, and they’ve carved out a small niche in the market that I imagine is mostly geared towards collected editions. They might get a bounce with the upcoming movie, though.

Glenn: The Dark Tower books have been coming out for a very long time and likely do well not only in comic shops but in regular book stores also. Having Stephen King on the cover will always help sell this book to people who have never ventured into a comic shop in their lives and it may benefit Marvel to have such an extensive library of these things already in time for the movie. I believe this current mini is set during the second book so Marvel is clearly in for the long haul here regardless.

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Ray: American Vampire has been gone for a while and the schedule was spotty before that, so that can’t have been good for the sales of the second American Vampire Anthology, which lands at #232 with sales of 7.3K. It was the same price as the Wonder Woman anniversary anthology, but there’s a pretty big gulf in how the two issues performed. I’m interested in seeing how American Vampire vol. 3 does when it returns.

Glenn: Maybe fans of the series have grown tired of waiting or are just wanting the regular series to start up again? Given how Vertigo is as a whole, the sales may not be the best whenever the series finally returns. Much like most of the stronger quality Vertigo series that are coming out, it will still be a strong seller in collection form for years to come, no doubt.

Ray: Another month, another Dark Horse book with a lot of promotion and a promising creative team underperforming. This month it’s Spell on Wheels, by Kate Leth. Leth has had successful comics at multiple companies, and Dark Horse put a lot into selling this one, so they had to be hoping for more than 6.6K at #241. This is the state of affairs at Dark Horse right now, with very few titles able to break away from the pack.

Speaking of Dark Horse, the bizarre Eric Powell/Stephanie Buscema freakshow comedy Chimichanga: Sorrow of the World’s Worst Face manages to debut at #245 with sales of 6.4K. This is very clearly a niche book, so no surprises there. This is probably one of those books that the retailers already know exactly how to order.

Glenn: It’s strange that one book seems to be for a specific audience where another it appears Dark Horse was maybe expecting both out of but they sold at nearly the same level.  I guess this is the standard launch for a new Dark Horse property without a-list creators regardless of the material?  Not good if that’s the case but that’s what we say every month about Dark Horse. I wonder how many people ordered/bought Chimichanga cause of Deadpool’s love of the food though?

We see the second issue of new Dark Horse launch, Rise Of The Black Flame sell just under 6.4k at 246 as it gets outsold by the latest issue of the Simpsons comic. If it were Harrow County which is 17 issues in and has the 248 spot then I probably would be feeling a lot less sorry for it.

Ray: It’s good you mentioned Harrow County, because that’s another book, like Black Hammer, that found its level and just locked down there. A good deal lower than Black Hammer, of course, but it’s one of Dark Horse’s few success stories over the last few years.

Glenn: Another Dark Horse launch and a video game tie in is Call Of Duties: Zombies sells literally just over 6k at 255. Call Of Duty is an insanely popular gaming franchise but as we’ve seen in the charts before, that doesn’t necessarily mean a high selling comic make. This one tries to lure more potential patrons in by including Zombies but with Walking Dead as the clear high standard for that type of comic, anyone else doing something similar probably won’t be paid much attention.

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Ray: Video game comics tend to be hard sells overall. Maybe it’s because people would rather play the game than read about it? We see the same thing with video game movies. Interactivity is the biggest draw when it comes to video games, so any expanded material without that might struggle.

Glenn: I just want to mention the second issue of Tarzan and the Planet Of The Apes (selling just over 5.9k) at 257 because clearly someone who makes decisions reads these articles. We asked for Green Lanterns and the Planet Of The Apes and you readers are getting it, you’re welcome.

One of the new Vertigo launches to last the test of time is Clean Room which sells just over 5.8k at 261. I would say this is largely due to Gail Simone’s loyal fanbase and the fact that she seems to be one of the nicest people in comics more than anything else. A lot of the Vertigo books it launched alongside are long gone so credit to this one for managing to stick around.

Ray: Clean Room and Sheriff of Babylon (about 700 copies lower at #286) seem to have found their levels, at numbers well below what a Gail Simone or Tom King book should be selling. Such is the state of Vertigo, but these two seem to have stopped the bleeding. We’ll see if Sheriff can rebound and start higher when volume two lands.

Glenn: Volume 2 of Sheriff might see an initial bump but I don’t think it’ll be anything significant and will probably fall to previous levels.  If it were repackaged at Image it might be a different story…

At first I thought A Year Of Marvel’s Unbeatable was a reprint but a quick google tells me…no?  It seems to be a fully bonified new Marvel one shot so what its doing down here at the ‘depressing section’ of the charts when it comes to the likes of Vertigo and Dark Horse is baffling. It only sells 5.6k at 268 and I can’t help but feel I missed something here.

Ray: That is insanely low for a Marvel book with original material. Anthologies without an impact on continuity are always a hard sell, but even by those standards, wow. Marvel puts out such a glut of content that retailers are probably having to make some hard calls. This is just further evidence that Marvel’s current strategy is backfiring. Could the future issues of this anthology miss the top 300 entirely?

Glenn: This isn’t just a one shot?! Oh wow, that’s grim. Even if Marvel cancelled this it doesn’t seem many people would notice.

Just below that at 269 is a new launch from Titan in the form of Hard Case Crime Peepland which sells around 5.6k also. This is a new mini series based in a super pulpy looking crime world that seems along the lines of the stories Ed Brubaker tells. Without the former Captain America writer attached though, interest seems to be slim.

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Next we’re looking at Duck Avenger from IDW which sells just over 5.4k at 274. This appears to be a new book starring Donald Duck as a superheo so this is pretty standard level for a new Disney launch from someone who isn’t Marvel. I used to love Darkwing Duck so I demand his return also!

Ray: Apparently Duck Avenger precedes Darkwing Duck, too. This is an odd little chapter of Disney history I was not aware of. Standard numbers for IDW’s Disney books, but it continues to be sort of surprising the way Disney rights are still split between three different companies.

Glenn: Next at 276 is Warlords of Appalachia from BOOM! which sells just over 5.3k. This title is another attempt from BOOM! to do more adult orientated creator owned work and seems to struggle like similar books they put out do. In the past few years, BOOM! has managed to carve itself a nice little niche with all ages books so going against that when the demand is being met by literally everyone else is puzzling.

Ray: Similar numbers to the last book from this creative team, Last Sons of America. BOOM! has a wide variety of genres in their line, and their darker books seem to consistently struggle.

Glenn: Also from IDW is Action Man: Revolution, the spin off from the toy version of the Expendables we saw launch last month. It sells just over 5.3k. Given that Action Man was only a thing for roughly a month in the early 90’s, I’d say this is only for people wanting to be completionists with the overall story.

Ray: Black Mask has a new title debuting at #281 with 5.2K, The Skeptics. This one didn’t have any big names attached, so these numbers aren’t a big surprise. Still, Black Mask has slowly but surely carved out a place in the market, even if this is one of their less impressive debuts.

Glenn: Given how new Black Mask is, the fact they can get books to chart at all is impressive. There are a lot of older companies still around that hardly ever chart any more. I think Black will be the book that brings them a lot of attention which they can expand their audience through.

Ray: There’s a few other debuts, like a new Pathfinder comic from Dynamite and another of those Hard Case Crime titles from Titan, the second this month. As usual, the bottom of the chart mostly consists of tie-ins, low-selling creator-owned books, and the occasional oddball comic like X-Files: Origins, the teen adventures of Mulder and Scully. I hope they have to rule out Red Herring as the culprit in every issue.

One bit of depressing news, though, is that Revival is circling the bottom of the top 300 at 291 with sales of 5.1K. The series is one of Image’s longest-running, and it’s ending in a few month, so I’m hoping it manages to stay in the top 300 till the end.

Glenn: If Revival does drop out, it’ll likely pop back in for the end but the audience might see it over the finish line.

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Ray: Looking ahead to next month, it’s a very quiet month for DC as they continue to settle into their new post-Rebirth normal. There’s only two new series launches – Mother Panic, the fourth of the Young Animal books and the only one of the four set in Gotham City. Given that, I think it’ll debut a bit higher than Shade and Cave did. There’s also a new all-ages miniseries, Super Powers, from Baltazar and Franco, as well as a pair of unique one-shots. The first, Catwoman: Election Night, seems like a bit of a trainwreck in reviews, but the second, the DC New Talent Showcase, is an anthology giving spotlights to the graduates of DC’s first talent workshops. We’ll also get to see how the first two annuals of the Rebirth era, Batman and Superman, perform. There’s also the latest Batman/TMNT crossover, this one based on the animated series, published by IDW.

For Marvel, it’s yet another big month of relaunches, as we’ll likely see Avengers and Invincible Iron Man compete for the top spot with six-figure debuts (my money is on Avengers). Two of Marvel’s most popular series get spinoffs as well, with the Unworthy Thor miniseries, which should be a solid hit, and Black Panther: World of Wakanda (although the creative team from outside comics and the $4.99 price tag makes me wonder if this one struggles). Then there’s the alternate universe Amazing Spider-Man: Renew Your Vows, which has a lot of anticipation behind it, and Mark Waid’s flashback mini Avengers .1. There’s also some smaller books, like Ultimates 2, Occupy Avengers, Venom, and Jeff Lemire’s Thanos. Some of these might find their footing, others are going to struggle. And of course, there’s Ghost Rider and Foolkiller, this month’s contenders to debut outside of the top 100. We’ll also start to see how some of these books settle down. What will Champions or Doctor Strange and the Sorcerers Supreme look like in month two? Or more ominously, how low can Solo and Prowler fall?

After a huge month of debuts for Image, it’s a bit of a quieter month for creator-owned books this time, with one big exception – A.D. After Death, Image’s prestige format miniseries from Snyder and Lemire, two of the biggest creators in the industry. I don’t think it’ll quite equal the numbers of Reborn, partially due to the $5.99 price tag (for 69 pages of story), but I expect a very healthy debut here. Other books like Alex De Campi’s cold war thriller Mayday and Frank Barbiere’s rural noir Violent Love will have more modest debuts. Outside of Image, we’ve got Steve Orlando’s new creator owned book, Namesake, from BOOM!. We’ll see if his sudden rise at DC boosts the numbers on this one. Matt Kindt brings another one of his strange, dense fantasy worlds to life in Ether for Dark Horse. And Valiant has another one of their more offbeat projects in the mysterious Savage.

Glenn: A lot of interesting launches next month but as you indicate, the more interesting story might be how these new Marvel books perform in their second month.  Magic 8 ball says ‘We’re doomed, Jim’.

A delay in these charts means less time to wait to see what happens!  Good news for all!  See you then!

By The Numbers: September 2016

Like in any industry, comic books and their companies listen most to one thing and that’s your money! What does your money tell them? What does it tell us as fans? What series do people say they adore but can’t seem to catch a break and what books to people hate that sell out? What are the trends? What looks good? What looks rough?

All these questions and more will be answered here, every month in ‘By The Numbers’ by comic writers, editors and fans, Glenn Matchett and Ray Goldfield.

Glenn Matchett is a comic writer and editor. He’s worked in the industry for 6 years but grew up reading comics. He is currently published with Outre Press, Nemeses Studios and Alterna! He is excited for the upcoming release of the IF Anthology 2016 which he has two stories in. You can order from Amazon here and make him happy.

Ray Goldfield is a fan of comic books for going on 25 years, starting with the death of Superman. He is a writer and editor for Grayhaven Comics and is working on his first novel. Ray also does a weekly roundup of DC comic reviews for website Geekmom and they’re brilliantly entertaining. Chuck Norris wished he could read as many comics as Ray could.

We also do a podcast together with longtime buddy, Brandon James on iTunes with Rabbitt Stew or at the link here! Don’t ask, I didn’t pick the name. If you’d like to hear what me and Ray sound like, give it a listen! We talk about this sales chart (among many, many other things) here.

Full top 300 for September available here!

Note: Sorry about the delay folks :)

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Glenn: Welcome friends to the report on what’s hot and what’s not in terms of comic sales for September! More than halfway through the year and a lot has changed in a short space of time! DC now dominates the top of the charts with Flash outselling every Marvel book apart from the latest issue of Civil War II. Sales aren’t as crazy as they have been however as things start to settle down but that doesn’t mean there’s a bunch to go over.

Ray: The overall numbers are going down a good deal as we enter month four of Rebirth (I believe this is where the majority of books are no longer returnable), but the overall line is still incredibly healthy. DC is dominating the top of the charts like never before in recent history, and it looks like the majority will stay there. To put this in perspective, every Rebirth book and one additional title, for a total of 50, landed in the top 68.

Glenn: Taking the top spot is Batman with sales of over 138.8! Now we’re into the period where the books aren’t returnable but it doesn’t seem to have made a big difference in the main Batman title. It seems that Tom King is filling the shoes of Scott Snyder rather well as we finish the first part of his first story. Continued brilliant sales for Batman here and at 3 where issue 7 sells over 135.5. A very minimal drop with the first part of “Night Of The Monster Men” which will be also crossing over with Nightwing and Detective not seeing much of an impact on an already high selling title. Given his appearances in team books, Batman is in 5 of the top ten titles which is just crazy.

Speaking of which, All-Star Batman issue 2 is in between the 6th and 7th issue of the main book with sales over 137.7k. This is the Batbook by Snyder and a whole range of top talent artists and that seems to be enough to not have retailers or fans put off by the 4.99 monthly price tag. Snyder’s name continues to be a huge draw and that has no signs of slowing down.

Ray: The power of Batman! DC has a pulled off a pretty amazing hat trick, giving the main Batman book a strong enough creative team and enough buzz that it maintains the sales of the previous book with the blockbuster creative team – and taking that same A-list writer, giving him his own side book, and watching as that does the same. They’ve turned one megahit title into three megahit issues per month, and they’ve pretty much locked down the top of the charts for now. Especially with All-Star at $4.99, this is an incredible feat.

Glenn: I agree, the strategy on the Batman line has been flawless by DC. You can’t forget about Detective Comics which charts at 12 and 17 this month with sales of just under 83k and 81k respectively. They’ve given this book to a someone who has worked extensively in the Bat line the last number of years and was mentored by the main title’s a-list writer you alluded to. There was no wrong decisions here and its paid off across five books.

Ray: There’s an interesting sales pattern developing with Detective Comics. It didn’t sell as high as the other Batman books when it started out, but it’s been climbing up the charts as other books sink below it. It seems to have found its level at around 80K, although this month had the boost of both an event issue and a crossover tie-in. The entire Bat-line has been firmly established as a huge hit in Rebirth, and we’ll talk more about this in a bit.

Glenn: Coming back this month is Civil War II at number 4 on the charts with 120k and its still holding in there. The story is not in the same league as its predecessor but compared to the many other Marvel events, its performing around the same level. Sadly the tie-ins aren’t seeing the same benefit but this will be one that continues to produce a solid number for the remainder of its run which as of this writing concludes in January.

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Ray: Civil War II seems to have found its level somewhat, although we’ll see how that plays out with three issues (over five months or so) to go. This is an event that no one is talking about, with the tie-ins providing zero benefits. It’s still Marvel’s biggest hit at the moment, but this likely bodes very ill for the numbers of the Marvel Now books being unveiled next month.

Glenn: The books rolling out of Civil War II have an uphill battle to climb for sure. I’m also wondering how retailers will treat all future events by Marvel following the overall underwhelming performance Civil War II has had for its tie-in books. I’m not seeing a lot of hype for Monsters Unleashed or IvX so next year might not be pretty for Marvel.

At 5 is Justice League with sales of over 95.5 which is still a solid showing for DC’s top team with sales . The book has seemingly become a place for big screen action but people are buying into it because its still the Justice League which has been a rock solid performer for DC since the Johns/Lee relaunch over five years ago. It’ll be books like this that have the brand power that helps DC keep their dominance at the top of the chart currently. The following issue also takes the number 10 spot with sales over 89k. There’s definitely a slow slide and the book might be out of the top ten next month but its still a very strong performer, especially at twice a month.

Ray: Justice League has its own brand, but there’s no real buzz around this book right now. I sort of expect that to change with the upcoming JL vs. Suicide Squad event, which should lift both books as they tie into the overall Rebirth picture.

Glenn: A surprise at number 6 in the form of Image’s Walking Dead which leaps up in sales by about 20k to 94.3k. As discussed last month, last issue was the start of the books latest big storyline and apparently this issue was hyped a significant death or plot development, It seems that much like the zombies in the book, the title can still get comic fans in the stores of their local stores by the rabid thousands. Always a solid performer, Walking Dead is a comic that I feel is history in the making due to its astonishing success.

The top three superheroes at DC (yes, including that Batman chap) star in Trinity which launches strongly at 7 with sales over 93.7k. Batman always had a strong pull but Rebirth has done great service for Wonder Woman and Superman so there is no doubt going to be a lot of interest in a book starring all three. The writer/artist is Francis Manipul who is a big draw also so his involvement should not be discounted either. This is going to be another 70kish performer when things settle down I think, which is another huge win for DC.

Ray: Given that this is a replacement for the lower-selling Batman/Superman and the widely disliked Superman/Wonder Woman, this is a very good number from Trinity. Helps that this has Francis Manapul’s amazing art, and the issue was very well received as a whole. I have a feeling that if Manapul stays on art for most issues, this could find a very solid niche much the way Spider-Man/Deadpool has.

Glenn: I think it manage better than that by a smidge. Spider-Man/Deadpool is at 28 with sales of just over 65.5k, which is very good but I think Trinity can settle about 5k better.

The biggest selling DC book not starring Batman in some way is Supergirl, launching the series proper at 8 with sales over 90k. Like I said with Trinity, Rebirth has done wonders for the Superman line and the proof is right here. I could see Supergirl cracking 50k easily which would put it double what it was selling before her title vanished. Astonishing.

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Ray: Supergirl is probably the most impressive sales success of Rebirth, although we have yet to see how it performs when it’s not a #1. Still, while New Super-Man and Superwoman plunged in numbers (more on that later) past their first issue, this seems to be maintaining an incredibly high sales level. The character’s been gone for a long time and people are excited to have her back. And Steve Orlando seems to be following in the footsteps of Snyder and King as a DC up-and-comer who has very quickly graduated to the A-list.

Glenn: The New 52 relied heavily on names of the past apart from a few exceptions but Rebirth is the exact flip side of that. DC has put a lot of trust in a crop of writers never given these level of books before and its paying off big for them thus far. I think we should copyright this as the ‘Scott Snyder effect’.

Next up is the second issue of Suicide Squad, checking in at 9 with sales over 89k. Movie hype and a big push from DC has made this book seem important to retailers and this is the result. Although the film garnered a mixed reaction (to put it kindly) the fact that it was made raises the Squad’s profile significantly. We’re seeing here the same effect that the Guardians film had for Marvel a number of years ago even though it was a much, much, much, much (50 years later) much better thought of movie.

Ray: Suicide Squad is still finding its level, dropping 7K between issues 2 and 3. The event should help it much like it does JL, but the unusual division in the story each issue is going to make it a bit of a hard sell long-term, I think. It probably needs a more consistent creative team if it’s going to maintain its movie boost.

Glenn: Keeping the big name artists on the back ups will help but it does seem to be in a bit of an unusual trend creatively. Promising Jim Lee as one of the artists on a bi-weekly book was ambitious so they’ve had to rearrange a fair bit. Hopefully they get a solid grasp of this soon.

Ray: The franchise has been in such deep trouble for a while that Teen Titans: Rebirth at #11 with 84K has to be considered a huge boost. The team’s completely cut ties from the Lobdell era, instead focusing on a combo of the Wolfman/Perez characters and the new kids, and it’s been received fairly well. It won’t hold these numbers, but if TT can hold at around 40K long term, our long national nightmare may finally be over.

Glenn: Given how the Teen Titans book has been received for close to over a decade, this is a sensational debut. I thought perhaps, the book may not be salvageable but I think the Rebirth branding has given people a chance to trust DC with this property one more time. Given the reception the first issue got, I think it can easily do 40k or better which would be brilliant. If Rebirth can make Teen Titans a success, it might be the best relaunch any company has done since…well maybe ever.

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Ray: A book that’s the opposite of Detective Comics would be Harley Quinn, which shocked the world with the best sales numbers of the entire Rebirth wave last month – and has shed the vast majority of the boost it got in only one month. Issue #3 is down to 81K, and then issue #4 falls to 73K. This is rather quickly dropping down to the consistent 50K level it found in the previous run, which makes sense – this is the exact same book. But I think this is the first example we’ve seen of a DC pointless relaunch performing exactly like a Marvel pointless relaunch!

Glenn: They can’t all be winners and yeah, this is the book that probably needed the Rebirth branding the least apart from the Batman line (which one could argue its a part of but still…). Even if it drops to its previous level, its still an unqualified success and is now coming out twice a month, so even better.

Ray: Although DC is obviously tops this month, there’s more Marvel books in the top of the charts than last month, but they’re all continuing to shed sales. Star Wars is at #23 with 82K, which is pretty steady. I’m surprised to see the big drops for both Amazing Spider-Man (24 with 71K) and Black Panther (down to 34 with 58K), especially since this ASM issue was a very pivotal one for Clone Conspiracy. No book seems to be safe from Marvel’s consistent sales slide right now.

Glenn: The Amazing one is a head scratcher. Last month saw a huge boost because of Clone Conspiracy so you think this issue would be the same? This issue also was very much in the vein of the Superior sales of Superior Spider-Man so I thought that would have got some interest. It’ll be interesting if the tie-in issues to the Clone Conspiracy mini will have the same roller coaster effect.

Ray: Maybe the most surprising debut of the month is Doom Patrol #1, from Young Animal. This performed almost exactly like a Rebirth title, selling 76K at #19. In fact, I think it might have performed better than a Rebirth Doom Patrol book would have. If Young Animal is essentially a re-branded Vertigo, that’s a very big win for DC. This book sold more than 60K higher than the two new Vertigo launches of the month. (More on those later).

Glenn: A fantastic start for Doom Patrol which may benefit from an outside fandom influence that Gerard Way would bring along. Getting him to do anything is a big coo for DC and even if this book does about 30k when all is said and done that would be amazing. If all Young Animal books perform like this, could it be time to put Vertigo out to pasture? Sometimes all a brand needs is a name change.

Ray: Speaking of Rebirth lifting all boats, the Batman Beyond number is extremely impressive as well, selling 67K at #27. This is a book in a side timeline that was only selling 17K with its final issue in its previous incarnation. I don’t think there’s ever been a more dramatic display of the power of Rebirth. We’ll see if this holds its numbers at all, but either way, it’s got a huge cushion to beat its previous numbers.

Glenn: The return of Terry McGuinness and the jettison of the previous odd status quo may have helped too. No one liked Tim Drake Batman Beyond and the sales reflected that. The brand still holds some weight so it may be able to manage a respectable following, I doubt DC will be expecting anything massive from this book so anything above its previous level will be a bonus.

Ray: I’m always puzzled by the difference in sales numbers when it comes to crossovers between titles. “Night of the Monster Men” was a hard crossover playing out in three different titles over a month, but the Batman chapter sold about 50K more than the Detective chapter and almost 70K more than the Nightwing chapter. Solid numbers for a Nightwing book, still, but those 50K Batman readers are going to be awfully confused!

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Glenn: Personally, my store didn’t make me aware of the crossover when I picked up my copy of Batman. I knew about but yeah, maybe the crossover wasn’t pushed hard enough in that case? Still good sales for Nightwing historically of course though. I thought doing an inter title crossover this early into Rebirth was an odd move but it doesn’t seem to have done any harm in any case unlike some other tie-ins…

Ray: It’s rare that we have overt bad news for a Rebirth title right away, but I think these debut numbers for Cyborg qualify. The Rebirth issue sells 64K at #31, and the #1 issue falls down to 37 with only 56K. That’s really weak, and only about 20K above the debut numbers of the last Cyborg series which launched with the ill-fated DC You branding. A title that debuts at this level can’t really sustain a biweekly schedule – and I think it’s worth noting that DC only solicited one issue of Cyborg to ship in January, the first adjustment like this we’ve seen.

Glenn: Cyborg is very much DC’s version of the Inhumans. He hasn’t been a thing for decades and now suddenly, DC saying he is suddenly one doesn’t seem to make it so. Cyborg, to my knowledge has never had his own ongoing and being a member of the Justice League doesn’t necessarily increase his likelihood of being able to have sales on one. Its not a disastrous debut but the slide is concerning for sure. Given that he has a major film based on him coming out as a part of the DCCU, this is the reason they’re pushing him but I’m not sure anyone is particularly bothered right now. If it can settle about 40k it won’t be what they want but it could be the best they could hope for.

Ray: Blue Beetle loses about 20K from its Rebirth issue, but still holds above 50K for its first issue. This was always going to be the hardest sell of the line, given how the original titles struggled, so DC still has to be pretty happy with this. Rebirth lifts all boats, unless you’re Cyborg. If they want more of a sales boost, though, maybe he should call himself Bat-Beetle?

Glenn: He doesn’t need Bat anything, he’s got Ted! Blue Beetle is one of those great characters that a lot of people outside of comics don’t know about (any version really) so DC will have minimal expectations for this book too. Given that he’s the only Charleston character to have his own book (even though Jamie is vastly different from that version) it could be a book to watch when the big Watchmen story hinted at in Rebirth comes around.

Ray: All the Bat-books continue to dominate, but the same can’t be said for Superman’s family. While the two main Superman titles and Supergirl remain extremely strong, Superwoman loses almost half its sales in month two. Some might claim this is due to the controversy over the twist, but I think it might just be due to this being an unknown quantity. I have doubts a Lana Lang solo title is sustainable. More surprising and depressing is the way New Super-man is plunging down the charts. It’s now the second-lowest selling Rebirth book this month, selling only 41K two months out from its six-digit debut. I’m hoping it levels out and soon, the way Moon Knight (the title directly above it on the charts) did.

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Glenn: I doubt the twist will have effected numbers much as when retailers were ordering this book, they wouldn’t have known about it. The Superman line has been a shaky one for years and while we’re seeing Action, Superman and yes, Supergirl do very well now, retailers may have found these two books ‘two too many’. Still, both books are clear passion projects from their respective creators so they may be allowed to carry them on rather than risk losing them all together.

Ray: Someone’s always got to be on the bottom, and for Rebirth this month the dishonor goes to Hellblazer. Constantine has always sold not that great since his debut in the main DCU (and the original Hellblazer was never a direct market dynamo either), so this isn’t a surprise. If it levels out quickly, it could still wind up well above the previous volume. If not, well, Rebirth can’t pull off a miracle for everyone.

Glenn: Just over 40.7k is good for Hellblazer and probably has about 10k-15k to fall before we can start to be ‘worried’ about the book. I think even though Constantine probably has a more dedicated audience than most characters, he’s one to always end up at the bottom end of the charts no matter what. With talk of him featuring more in the CWverse, in other media and a Justice League Dark movie, DC will keep this book around regardless.

Ray: Other than that, the Rebirth line mostly continues to level off, as books still find their level while most remain at more than double the level they were selling pre-Rebirth. Superman, Green Arrow, Flash, Nightwing, Titans, and Green Lanterns all still look pretty strong, while Hal Jordan and the Green Lantern Corps and Aquaman look to be struggling. A couple of interesting patterns are emerging, though. For one thing, the bottom of the sales charts for Rebirth right now is Hellblazer, New Super-man, Batgirl, Aquaman, Batgirl and the Birds of Prey, Deathstroke, Red Hood and the Outlaws, and Superwoman. Aside from Aquaman and Deathstroke, these are all the monthly titles. Could the audience be seeing the monthly titles as less important? Going biweekly on the central titles seems to have paid off for DC in a big way. We’ll see if future adjustments prioritize these books.

Glenn: As I mentioned on Rabbitt Stew (dong!) asking someone to invest in a comic story these days is a big ask, even at $2.99. You’re waiting 6 months or more in the past to get one story but now you’re waiting three…or less! I think readers are enjoying the fast paced nature of the books and waiting around for the monthlies must seem extra slow by comparison so yeah, you could be onto something there!

Ray: Second, we’ll just jump ahead a bit on the charts to discuss the power of the Rebirth branding, because the first major DC book without the Rebirth branding, Raven, just debuted at #87 with sales of 28K. Needless to say, that’s pretty grim. It’s feast or famine right now for DC, with Rebirth (and Young Animal) dominating and everything else struggling. DC has got to be regretting their decision to do next month’s cavalcade of minis without the Rebirth branding.

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Glenn: The decision not to play the Rebirth card is a puzzling one. Perhaps they didn’t want to make the same mistake Marvel has by diminishing a strong brand by sticking a certain label on it? Mini’s and such may not seem very ‘Rebirthlike’ so it makes it a hard decision for DC. They either kill material already paid for, risk tarnishing the Rebirth brand or this. Not a lot of good options and we’re going to see the fallout of that next month for sure on a bunch of DC monthlies.

Remember all the annuals last month? It’s still a thing with the Extraordinary X-Men, Deadpool and Doctor Strange annuals. All sell close to their main books with Deadpool at over 51.6k at 45, Doc Strange at 62 with sales of over 44.7k and Extraordinary just over 38.8k at 72 just a smidge below the main book at 70 with sales of over 39k. Again, having the writer of the main book just makes the annual feel like another issue…at a higher price worked for Deadpool and Extraordinary while Doctor Strange seems to have had enough of renaissance to outsell the X-Men when its written by one of the biggest names in comics right now, go figure.

Ray: As I recall, Deadpool did have the main writer on board for the annual, while Doctor Strange and Extraordinary X-Men definitely didn’t, so it seems like there isn’t a big impact either way based on creative team. Marvel seems to have made Annuals seem relevant again – which makes me wonder how well the November Batman and Superman annuals will do for Rebirth. Maybe almost as good as the main books, especially in the case of Batman.

Glenn: Well shut my mouth more than Deadpool in Wolverine: Origins! I would say the Rebirth annuals will do very well, especially Batman. People have reinvested in DC so will be up for any extras I’d wager.

New Image launch from Rick Remender at 81 selling over 32.7k in Seven To Eternity, the highest selling Image book not featuring zombies or whatever Saga is about. Its a decent launch but I would have thought we’d get more from this creative team, it’ll likely settle down quick at this level but I’m puzzled why it didn’t launch higher but its a strong start.

Ray: That is a slightly lower debut than I expected for Seven to Eternity, given that this was the fan favorite Uncanny X-Force team. However, over the last few months we’ve seen this happen quite a few times – an Image book with an a-list creative team debuts a little lower than expected, but then holds their first issue sales extremely well. Maybe retailers are just getting more consistent when it comes to ordering Image books and they don’t over-order the first issues anymore? Either way, this will probably do similar numbers to Black Science overall, which would make it very healthy for Image.

Glenn: IDW’s Revolution which sees a mash up of various properties like Transformers, G.I. Joe, Rom and more sells just under 29k at 85 which I think is rather brilliant. Considering that this comic is equivalent of when you’re 7 or 8, you get a bunch of toys and you just yell and bash them against each other just cause, this is pretty great, especially when a lot of these properties are well past their prime. I mean it has Action Man, ACTION MAN!!!!

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Ray: IDW always launches these odd crossover events with a lot of fanfare and variant covers, so they deliver solid numbers but always drop off quickly. Still, this is a company that usually slips under the radar, so to see them get an event in the top 100 on a month like this is pretty impressive. Action Man outsold Captain America: Sam Wilson!

Glenn: Then again, Action Man is the greatest hero of them all so can we be surprised? (Yes, yes we can)

Just under it is the newest of Archie’s relaunches in their vast relaunch/reboot in Josie and The Pussycats (long tails and ears for hats) which sells over 28.7k at 86. Its a good debut for an Archie property but not as strong as the sales the main book or Jughead had upon their releases. I doubt Archie could have expected a whole lot better, if it sells about 8-9k after all is said and done, they’ll probably be very happy.

Ray: This is by far the lowest of any of the new Archie debuts, and that’s not a surprise. It was announced without much fanfare a few months ago, and despite a lot of variant covers, there wasn’t much buzz surrounding it. Any numbers Archie does in the direct market these days are above what they would have done previously, where they had virtually no presence, but I see this one bottoming out around the level of Jughead (8K last month, didn’t ship this month) as opposed to Archie (still healthy at around 14K).

Glenn: Harley Quinn and the Gang of Harleys ends its run at 89 with sales just under 28k which isn’t bad for a spin off mini. Given the sales of Harley last month, we can likely expect a lot of books starring everyone’s female clown.

As predicted by Ray last month, Kill Or Be Killed barely loses any readers with a 23.8 and change performance giving it the 100th spot. The dedicated audience that Brubaker has is something a lot of other creators would love to have on their creator owned books.

Ray: Both Kill or Be Killed and Black Monday Murders, a little further down the charts at #117, shed about 7K in sales which is a pretty healthy drop from 1 to 2. Both Brubaker/Philipps and Hickman are very known quantities in the creator-owned world, and retailers know what they’re doing. In the big scheme of Image books, they’re fifth and ninth overall and very healthy.

Glenn: Next new debut is from BOOM! in the form of Skybourne by writer/artist big hitter and controversy stirrer, Frank Cho. It sells just over 22k which is very good for a BOOM! title. It probably would have done much better at Image but I would say Cho had his choice of publishers and went to BOOM! specifically to tell this story. It’ll probably have a strong hold on these numbers as long as it can stay on schedule.

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Ray: For a comic with an a-list name like Frank Cho on board, this book got very little hype. I barely knew it was coming out until I saw it on the order form. That being said, for a BOOM! comic, 22K is a very healthy number. We’ve talked a lot about their problems getting sales and buzz for their original properties, so I imagine they’re happy with this.

Glenn: Surprisingly low down the charts is the much praised Gotham Academy and the start of its second semester. This is a bat title all the way down at 106 with sales just over 22k. I mean…where to start? The book gets critical acclaim, has a lot of goodwill and DC didn’t do much to push it. Unlike Raven its not a mini, its priced at 2.99 and is for all intents and purposes a Rebirth book but without the branding that could have seen it have a sales bump of 30-40k if not more. This seems like a missed opportunity to me and is a decision I fail to understand.

Ray: I’m gonna cry on your shoulder now, Glenn. *weeps in a totally manly fashion* Gotham Academy is such a good book, with one of the best, most diverse casts in comics, and DC missed out on a golden opportunity to give this book a much needed boost. It was originally listed as a Rebirth title, and their decision to strip it of that branding likely cut its sales in half. This is still close to double what the title was doing before the relaunch, so that’s some good news, but unfortunately, it’s likely to fall down to its previous levels again.

Glenn: *pats Ray* It’ll be alllll right. The decision is even more baffling then if they said they were going to do it. Perhaps there was some sort of disagreement behind closed doors? A lot of unanswered questions in Gotham Academy with the ultimate bottom line that its going to be one that likely lives at the lower end of the charts.

Ray: Decent numbers for Brittania, Valiant’s latest number one. Almost 20K at #115, which is surprisingly strong for a book that doesn’t actually tie into the main Valiant universe as far as I can tell. Valiant’s doing a number of unconventional stories in the coming months, including the Turok-esque Savage, and this probably bodes well for the line as a whole.

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Glenn: It seems that Valiant have pretty similar numbers across all their books. Since they have a relatively small output, they could be one of the few companies that sells all their comics to the same audience. Still has a decent place among the rest of the chart. Consistency is key where Valiant and companies at a similar level are concerned.

Ray: It’s wrapping up next month, but we should give a shout out to Vision, which sank to the 25K range by its fourth issue and then has amazingly held above 20K all the way to #11. This book has carved out a small but loyal audience, and it’s likely going to be regarded as a classic for years to come when it wraps. Another feather in Tom King’s cap this year.

Glenn: Vision will have a long and healthy life in collection form as Tom King’s star continues to rise. The series has been universally loved and while it was never going to be a smash hit, mid 20k throughout its run and a story that we’ll likely still be talking about in 10 years is not the worst investment Marvel could have made here.

Ray: Speaking of consistent sales, besides Revolution, IDW’s top book this month is Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, with sales of around 15K at #135. What’s really impressive is that this is issue #62, which makes this the longest-running book so far on the charts without a relaunch besides Walking Dead (Action and Detective don’t count – they’ve relaunched twice since TMNT began this run). Given how long it’s been running with relatively little in the way of stunts to boost sales, it just goes to show the enduring power of this franchise.

Speaking of long runners, X-O Manowar approximately doubles its sales for its #50 grand finale. A relaunch is coming next year with a new status quo, so Valiant seems to have gained some buzz around their oldest workhorse.

Two Image books without big names attached, Surgeon X and Glitterbomb, both have relatively healthy debuts of around 14K, which is standard for a lower-profile Image book. They seem to have gotten good reviews out of the gate, so I could see them both stabilizing at a healthy level.

…This is a first for your resident comic book geek, but there’s a book on the charts that I genuinely do not know of! Lady Mechanika: La Dama De La Muerte, from Benitez Productions, does over 14K in sales, which is very surprising. I’ve seen titles from Benitez on the charts before, but never this high up.

Glenn: Lady Mechanika actually rings a bell with me. I think its an existing property that has an existing (albeit small fan base). This would likely explain the numbers if that’s correct. I doubt it’ll hold close to this but not a bad start for a property that seems at best to be very obscure if not completely new.

Ray: We’ve talked at length about the struggles Vertigo faces right now, and he’s some titles that illustrate this. We just saw a Doom Patrol relaunch from Young Animal debut with almost 70K. Meanwhile, we have a creator-owned title from one of DC’s hottest new writers, Josh Williamson, debut with… just under 14K at #151. Granted, Frostbite is only a six-issue miniseries and will probably maintain acceptable numbers for the duration of its run, but not even an A-list creative team can deliver big numbers for a Vertigo book right now.

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Glenn: The good news with Frostbite is that like you say, its a mini and I don’t think any of Williamson’s Image books launched that much higher. Of course, Williamson is now the guy writing Flash and the upcoming Justice League vs Suicide Squad so you would have thought this might have made an impact. Perhaps at Image, it would have. Sadly this isn’t the worst news for Vertigo this month.

Ray: Much more grim is the numbers we see for the book down at #167 – Everafter: From the Pages of Fables. The first Fables spin-off released since the series’ grand finale can only pull just over 11K in sales for its debut issue. Part of this is undoubtedly Vertigo’s brand problem, but the bigger issue might be Fables being seen as done and the fact that this series features characters not many people care about. No one wants the next After MASH. To put this into perspective, this book just got outsold by the second issue of Marvel Tsum Tsum.

Glenn: Fables was the book that kept Vertigo alive for over a decade so the logic of seeing it bring some attention back to the imprint is there but the practicality of it is clearly not. As we continue to see more Young Animal books launch, it could be the final hurrah for Vertigo apart from collections and the occasional special whenever someone like Gaiman takes a whim.

Ray: At #152, we find Black Hammer #3, which is stablilizing extremely quickly with sales in the 13K range – and is also the top-selling Dark Horse book this month. The ceiling for Dark Horse books is still worryingly low, but they seem to have a well-deserved hit on their hands here.

Glenn: The acclaim for Black Hammer is considerable, I think Dark Horse will be very pleased they got it locked down with them. This is a book that like Vision, may not be making sales records but has people talking and will be ultimately a book Dark Horse can add to its library and sell to more and more new fans as the series progresses.

Ray: Their next book down is a new Aliens #1, which manages to do just over 13K at #155. It seems like new Aliens and Predator books are their most consistent seller outside of Black Hammer, so it’s not a surprise that these launches are becoming more and more common.

Glenn: This franchise does seem to have more life in it and is the only licenced property Dark Horse has apart from the Buffyvere. Aliens is as popular now with its fans since the first movie’s release and the people that have come to it along the way. Its something that Dark Horse can depend on, which is something they desperately need at the moment.

Ray: This also seems to be where most of the Revolution tie-ins from IDW are landing. ROM, MASK, and Micronauts all do in the 12K-10K range. While not particularly impressive numbers, these are IDW’s highest selling books other than the main event title and TMNT, plus My Little Pony which is obviously a different audience. By IDW’s standards, these are healthy numbers – especially for a cavalcade of 80’s toy properties.

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Glenn: I suppose 80’s nostalgia definitely has its own audience and people might want a dose of properties they grew up loving with seeing them through the mind of someone like Michael Bay. This is a decent to good performance to IDW might try stuff like this in the future.

Ray: We find two smaller Image properties a little further down the charts. First is Top Cow sci-fi mystery Eclipse, which does around 12K at #162. Top Cow usually struggles a bit in sales, so this is healthier than quite a few of their recent debuts. I was surprised to see Hadrian’s Wall, by the COWL creative team, barely crack 10K at #178, though. Not sure what went wrong there, although COWL was also a hard sell.

Glenn: I do remember also being puzzled at COWL‘s sales back in the day. The writer, Kyle Higgins was someone who worked with Snyder at DC so you think his name would carry more weight but it seems not. He has been out of DC for a while and was never someone who was on anything overly memorable while he was there so perhaps the comic buying public have simply forgotten about him? He could probably use another round at DC before launching any of own properties.

Ray: Red One comes back from a length hiatus with a big drop, barely breaking 10K at #179. And by the time I write this column, the book is on hiatus again indefinitely after releasing two issues. They’ve got a plan, I guess. Not sure it’s a good one, but it’s a plan!

Glenn: Like I said a few articles ago, no matter who you are, the comic market has become very unforgiving in regards to delays. High profile books with top creative teams could disappear for months at a time and see little to no impact when they do put out a book. Those days are long gone with more choice and higher prices than ever. Comic fans don’t have the patience to wait on a book that may not know is ever going when they will just go and pick up something else that looks interesting. The Dodsons are great but they seem to indeed be misjudging the amount of people wiling to to pick up an issue of Red One when it does indeed come out.

Ray: Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur is now in the four-digit range, selling 9.7K at 183. Marvel’s fully committed to this book and is announcing upcoming storylines, so they’re clearly seeing something we’re not.

Glenn: Could be digital making the difference with Moon Girl. Marvel could also be keeping it on thinking the “Monsters Unleashed” tie-in may boost sales. I don’t think we should hold our breath but stranger things have happened.

Ray: Briggs Land had a very impressive debut last month for Dark Horse, but it quickly sheds over half those sales in month to and lands at #189 with sales in the 9K range. Unlike Black Hammer, this book is not defying gravity for Dark Horse. Brian Wood’s books have a loyal but small audience, so this will probably perform similarly to The Massive.

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Glenn: Yeah, at Dark Horse you need to be one of the biggest names in comics to get to stick with you or work on a popular, existing property to have a chance. By and large, they just don’t have the power they once had to properly promote new ideas by creators and encourage stores to check it out when they might want to use that money to check out the new Batman title that features Bat-Mite. Dark Horse seems to be battening down and willing to weather this storm but its difficult to see sunlight at this point.

Ray: Another new Aftershock title, Paul Jenkins’ Alters, has a healthy debut at 9.3K at #190. Aftershock hasn’t had that breakout hit yet, but these are decent numbers for a new company.

Glenn: Considering the company started like, 5 minutes ago they’ve managed to craft themselves a decent place in the charts. They have a lot of top tier talent which helps of course but will only get you so far. It seems that people are enjoying the output they have and like Valiant, they’re one of the few comic companies in the market today where they don’t sell big numbers but you could reasonably buy all their comics since they’re wisely keeping their line to the minimum at the moment.

Ray: BPRD spin-off Rise of the Black Flame barely makes the top 200, selling 8.4K at #199. This has been Dark Horse’s most enduring franchise, so these numbers for a new #1 have to be pretty troubling for them.

Glenn: BPRD/Hellboy is past its peak popularity but yeah, Dark Horse needs more books like Black Hammer or better to start to make themselves relevant again. They’ve become completely lost since losing the Star Wars books and there doesn’t seem to be any hint of that changing. At this point, the best they can hope for is a minor miracle while they continue to truck along.

Like DC though, Dark Horse doesn’t seem to mind sharing their toys as they team with IDW to produce Tarzan and the Planet Of The Apes which debuts at 205 with sales just under 8k. The Tarzan film this year didn’t indicate that many people were clamoring for more of this character, even if the crossover with Planet Of The Apes seems too good an opportunity not to do. DC is getting great traction out of inter-company crossovers but this one seems to have landed a bit flat. On paper it sounds like a great idea but neither franchise is a huge draw in comics anyway.

Ray: That’s definitely the strangest crossover I’ve seen yet, and it has a heavy-duty creative team attached with Tim Seeley and David Walker. These numbers are a bit disappointing given that, but not out of the standard for Dark Horse. Next time they should team with DC and set it in Gorilla City. That’ll boost those sales!

Glenn: That may not actually be a half bad idea where Dark Horse is concerned, you know. They could even pair him up with Kamadi and boom, there you go.

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Titan releases yet another Doctor Who comic starring the Third Doctor portrayed by Patrick Troughton. It sells just over 7.7k. Not terrible but not great but given this is old school Who, only the die hard fans will be turning out for it, even if its written by Paul Cornell. Titan is definitely getting their value out of the Doctor Who property, that’s for sure but given that its only reached a wider audience since its return in 2005, anything prior to that will be a struggle to move copies of.

In an astonishing accomplishment, DC Rebirth charts AGAIN with sales just over 7.6k at 211. The fact that people are still interest in this one shot is amazing and the total number of issues sold has to make it one of the highest selling comics in the last decade if not more. There is no bad news here.

Ray: DC Rebirth will still be charting in reorders when we’re all dead and gone. I’ve never seen anything like this before, where it keeps on getting reorders month after month. This has to be the top-selling comic of the decade by now.

Glenn: If it isn’t, it has to be damn close and still probably has a few more months to claim that title if it hasn’t already

Just below that is the second issue of oddball continuation and Garth Ennis vehicle, Sixpack and Dog Welder Hard-Travelin Heroz selling just over 7.6k also at 212. This is only the second issue and it got outsold by a one shot that is now nearly 6 months old. That really says it all here. This book is for the die hard Ennis fans and DC likely agreed to put it out to keep him in their good books in the hope he might do something a bit more…commercial in the future.

Ray: Much like Bloodlines (which finishes out its run at #257 with sales of 5.5K), this is one of DC’s strange niche properties that they keep on trotting out. I’m assuming that this is essentially a pet project for Garth Ennis, which means he gets to do it whenever he wants regardless of the sales. These sales are disastrous, but given that, likely irrelevant.

Glenn: Next new debut is from Black Mask in The Forevers which sells just over 7.2k at 218. Not bad from a company that is continuing to get good buzz with titles by unknown creators. When Black hits stands, I would say its really going to increase Black Mask’s presence in the market as a whole but for now, this is what you would expect from a publisher at this level putting out a book with no big name creators.

Ray: Black Mask has quickly been building itself a reputation as the home for offbeat, dark crime comics. However, this one didn’t seem to have much advanced buzz and got some mixed reviews. Thus, this debut well below things like 4 Kids or Kim and Kim isn’t really surprising.

Glenn: At #225 is the second issue of Demonic from Image, selling just over 6.9k. Probably lucky this one is only a mini series, haven’t heard much hype about this one and I don’t recognize the names so it gets lost in the shuffle as a result.

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Issue two of Generation Zero from Valiant sells just over 6.8k at #227. Not disastrous but certainty a the lower end of Valients usual sales range for sure.

Ray: That’s pretty rough for Generation Zero, losing well over half its sales with the second issue. I wonder if part of this is that unlike things like X-O Manowar, Bloodshot, Ninjak, etc, this property has no real name recognition and has never had a title before. Still, Valiant books tend to stabilize quickly, so it may be okay if it holds these numbers.

Glenn: Next at #228 is a Street Fighter swimsuit special selling over 6.6k. Priced at $3.99 and essentially doing something that screams 90’s gimmick, I think its astonishing it charted at all. Maybe there is a serious market out there for seeing M. Bison in a mankini?

Ray: …And we have this month’s winner for the strangest comic in the top 300! Bring on the spreads of Blanka and Dhalsim at the beach!

Glenn: I’ve personally always found Johnny Vega rather dreamy, its all in the mask

At #230 is Star Trek Weypoint selling just over 6.5k. This is a mini telling stories from various Trek properties in a celebration of the franchise’s 50th birthday. I really would have thought there would have been more interest here but apart from the release of the film, I’ve found the celebration of Trek’s 50th year a bit lackluster. No one seems overly bothered, hopefully IDW will benefit from having the franchise when the new series launches next year.

Ray: Surprisingly, IDW’s Star Trek comics have never really made much of an impact in the direct market. I think Star Trek may be more of a niche franchise without casual appeal, unlike Star Wars. As such, this is only going to reach really hard-core Trekkies.

Glenn: I would have thought general comic fans and Star Trek would have seriously overlapped (we nerds travel in packs) but you’re likely right. I suppose die hard Trekkies are probably this books only audience, I would personally consider myself a big Trek fan and I’ve never felt compelled to try out the comics so…there you go.

On its second issue, Aminosity is selling 6.3 at #234, again these Aftershock books definitely seem to find an audience, even if its a small one. Certainty a book in the same vein from Marguerite Bennett from say, Image would likely do a lot better but Aftershock seems to have an appeal to those currently putting out their work through them Perfectly fine for a company their size.

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Ray: That’s a fairly decent second-issue hold for Animosity. As Aftershock ramps up its promotion, I imagine more and more fans will pick up these books and become aware of the company. Next month will bring their highest-profile book yet, Shipwreck from Warren Ellis.

Glenn: Charting again is last months insane success, Harley Quinn 1 with an extra 6.1 and change k being ordered at 238. Given the mega number it hit last month, you would have thought that the issue would have found every Harley fan in the direct, American market but it would seem not!

Ray: Joe Books is coming off their biggest success ever two months ago, the first issue of their Frozen comic (although issue #2 has yet to ship). That success isn’t replicated this month with the first issue of Pirates of the Caribbean, which only manages to sell 5.8K at #248. Joe Books seems like it’s mainly playing to kids, so low numbers aren’t a surprise, but this just goes to show how Frozen is pretty much a singular phenomenon for Disney.

Glenn: I kind of think Pirates may have had its day. I didn’t get much excitement from the new trailer and the last movie had a very lukewarm reaction. I don’t see many people venturing out to read the further adventures of Jack Sparrow in comic form when so many other much more currently popular adaptions struggle.

Ray: Ted Naifeh is one of those creators who has been around for a while, telling brilliant stories as a writer/artist for Oni, but he never sells what he should. His latest, the supernatural fantasy heist thriller Night’s Dominion, follows in that pattern with sales of 5.6K at #255. I think these numbers are acceptable for Oni if they level out quickly, but it’s disappointing that books like this and Princess Ugg can’t get more momentum in the direct market.

Glenn: Oni’s market is very niche. I think they probably do better outside the direct market but with so much crazy going on at the top of the chart, its always going to be hard for anyone to get their book out there, even from a relatively well known company like Oni.

Ray: The epic battle between dogs and cats has been settled. Boo, The World’s Cutest Dog sells only 5.5K at #258, a far cry from the top 100 finish of Grumpy Cat’s first comic. Cats 1, Dogs 0! Also, maybe “cute” isn’t quite enough to make a comic book character.

Glenn: The thing is as well as that you can publish a Grumpy Cat book and basically make it Garfield but with a different name. I’m not sure how many exciting adventures a cute dog can have. I think they should jump to the inevitable zombie spin off, watch it kick DC Rebirth right in the Dr. Manhattan’s.

Ray: I don’t think the actual numbers increased much, but Sheriff of Babylon did improve its chart position a lot, as its 5.2K was enough for #268 this month. That should hopefully be enough to carry it through for two more issues so it wraps its critically acclaimed run in the top 300.

Glenn: Like Vision, this is another Tom King title that got a lot of praise but far less readers. However, like Vision it’ll probably have a long healthy life in trade, especially with King making DC his home for at least the next few years.

Ray: Top Cow’s crossover event Eden’s Fall will be lucky to finish its run in the top 300, as its second issue only manages to pull 4.5K at #288. This has to be a bit of a disaster for them, although not surprising given the sales of the parent books.

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Glenn: The last Top Cow comic of note that I really recall was Wanted and that certainty wasn’t yesterday. Even Witchblade (if it still comes out?) can’t make the top 300 any more. I’m sure if one of the Image founders weren’t at the head of the imprint it would have been silently shuffled off years ago.

Ray: And now, we close out the charts with Three Stooges: Red, White, and Stooge at #299. ‘Kay.

Glenn: Sales just over 4.3k for the Stooges. I just get the feeling that the publisher putting out this book found the contract for the property under a comically placed ladder and after a bump to the head, decided it would be ‘swell’ to put it out there.

Ray: Looking ahead, it’s another busy month for all the major companies. DC has the next two Young Animal books, Shade the Changing Girl and Cave Carson has a Cybernetic Eye, both of which have landed with strong reviews. They also drop the #1 issues of Teen Titans and Batman Beyond, and test their luck with a cavalcade of new miniseries without the Rebirth branding, including Deadman, Death of Hawkman, Midnighter and Apollo, and Vigilante, among others.

After taking what seems to be several months off, Marvel gets back into it with their latest relaunch. They’ll have the likely #1 book of the month in Champions #1, as well as some likely hits like Jessica Jones and Infamous Iron Man...as well as a few less likely hits like Solo, Mosaic, and Great Lakes Avengers. All odds are on Deadpool: Back in Black, which has Deadpool in the Venom costume, outselling most of them. And of course, there’s a little comic called Amazing Spider-Man: The Clone Conspiracy, which may just put Civil War II to shame in sales.

Image certainly isn’t taking the month off, with a host of new #1s, the top attraction almost definitely being Reborn #1 by Millar and Capullo. Would not be surprised at all to see this break six figures and have a top ten debut. There’s also Moonshine #1 by the 100 Bullets creative team of Azzarello/Risso, which should have a strong debut. We’ve also got Green Valley by Max Landis, Cannibal by Brian Buccellato. There’ll also be some smaller launches like Spell on Wheels from Dark Horse, Angel City from Oni, and Warlords of Appalachia from BOOM!. And Valiant is kicking off their latest event comic, Bloodshot USA, spinning out of Jeff Lemire’s acclaimed Bloodshot run.

All in all, looking like October will be an exciting month.

Glenn: A lot of risks being taken by the big two next month with a bunch of non Rebirth mini’s from DC and D list and below characters getting ‘ongoings’ from Marvel. There will be a lot more stiff competition in the top ten I think but I still believe that DC will come out on top again, although there will be a bit of a narrower gap.

We’ll find out next month, hope you all come with us to see for yourselves!

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By The Numbers: August 2016

Like in any industry, comic books and their companies listen most to one thing and that’s your money! What does your money tell them? What does it tell us as fans? What series do people say they adore but can’t seem to catch a break and what books to people hate that sell out? What are the trends? What looks good? What looks rough?

All these questions and more will be answered here, every month in ‘By The Numbers’ by comic writers, editors and fans, Glenn Matchett and Ray Goldfield.

Glenn Matchett is a comic writer and editor. He’s worked in the industry for 6 years but grew up reading comics. He is currently published with Outre Press, Nemeses Studios and Alterna! He is currently making sure his son is asleep and that his music isn’t too loud.

Ray Goldfield is a fan of comic books for going on 25 years, starting with the death of Superman. He is a writer and editor for Grayhaven Comics and is working on his first novel. Ray also does a weekly roundup of DC comic reviews for website Geekmom and they’re brilliantly entertaining. He’s still crying following the first US Presidential Collection but he hasn’t gotten any water on his comics.

We also do a podcast together with longtime buddy, Brandon James on iTunes with Rabbitt Stew or at the link here! Don’t ask, I didn’t pick the name. If you’d like to hear what me and Ray sound like, give it a listen! We talk about this sales chart (among many, many other things) here

Full top 300 for August available here!

Glenn: After the massive Rebirth explosion back in July, one might think that it may have all settled down.

Anything but I’m afraid. Not only did Rebirth continue to come up trumps for DC but their market share saw another increase for the third month of the row. Not only did DC win 9 of the top ten but then had 26 of the top 30 and 39 of the top 50. Now full disclosure, Marvel’s big heavyweight Civil War II was delayed but that was only one comic and I don’t think it would have fiddled with those numbers too much. Rebirth had toppled Civil War II in every measurable way and we’re only two months in. So far, every book is managing a steady hold that launched last month but we saw some insane debuts this month.

Jumping right back in, let us crown All Star Batman as the easy winner for the number one sp…

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Well just to prove we don’t know everything (just most things) and in the biggest surprise in the charts in some time (apart from Rebirth pwns all) is the success of the new volume of Harley Quinn. Given that its by the same creative team and that the last volume only ended a few weeks ago, Harley Quinn storms the competition to land the number one spot with a whopping total of just under 360k. This number is almost as insane as the books protagonist and a glass has to be raised for everyone involved. The last book was an unqualified hit, nearly proving wrong every standard rule for how a comic should perform and the trend continues here. Of course, Harley was the audience favorite in Suicide Squad, a movie otherwise panned by fans, critics and movie goers.

The second issue of the book also lands in the top ten, taking number 9 with sales of over just 116.6k. Its a big drop but still a huge success for the creative involved. I wouldn’t be surprised with how books that were less than anything to write home about prior to Rebirth are doing so well that Harley could end up selling 70-80k steadily which would put it above the majority of Marvel’s titles. It seems fans sure do want to have a ride on their Harley.

Ray: Yeah, look, I am rarely at a loss when it comes to the sales. This time, I am. We knew Harley was big. She’s sort of become her own franchise for DC as of late, their closest analogue to Deadpool. But this is a whole other thing. To put it in perspective, this is not just the highest-selling comic of the month. This is the highest-selling comic of the entire Rebirth event. It outsold Batman #1. It outsold Justice League #1. It even outsold DC Universe: Rebirth. By a margin of almost 100K. This is just such an odd phenomenon, because in terms of Rebirth, this book was a non-event. It was launched one week after the final issue of the previous volume, and the creative team remained intact. The book just launched right into a new storyarc, with a new #1. And yet, here we are.

The #2 issue’s sales make a lot more sense. Falling down to #9 at 116K sales is a huge drop, but still an extremely healthy level for this book. Harley is going to clearly remain one of DC’s top books, and this number is a huge boost from its previous volume’s final level.

Glenn: When you put it like that with the final issue out the week before its even more insane! I’m sure DC will be up for producing more Harley related books in no time flat.

Taking the silver medal was everyone’s pick for gold in All Star Batman by superstars Scott Snyder and John Romita Jr. Now, don’t feel too bad because this book which is the only Rebirth book not costing $2.99 (it actually costs $4.99) sold just under 290k. A great number for a book with that price tag and I have little doubt it’ll settle a lot higher than Harley on a regular basis. Asking 4.99 from fans is a big request but here’s an ongoing that I believe is being to do it in the six digit range month after month.

Ray: As much as it’s shocking that it lost to Harley, I still can’t say enough about how well All-Star Batman did. It outsold Batman #1 by 8K, and that was the big launch event for Rebirth as a whole. Snyder clearly has a lot of pull, and Romita Jr. definitely has a huge fanbase as well. I think DC has pulled off a pretty amazing hat trick here, by creating a situation where there are two genuine A-list Batman titles running at the same time. That’s three locked-down slots in the top ten every month. And at $4.99? That’s going to help them maintain their market share lead a lot on its own.

Glenn: Speaking of the movie, the first issue of Suicide Squad takes the third spot with just over 217.6k. Movie hype and Jim Lee’s involvement will be the main reason here. DC has gone to a lot of effort to make Suicide Squad seem like a must have book and it seems to have paid off. The critical response has been mixed but with the inclusion of hot artist Gary Frank to the team shows that DC is very committed to keep drawing eyes to this book.

It shows up in the top ten again with its Rebirth issue selling just under 178k at 5 continuing the odd trend of sometimes the Rebirth books not performing as well. Its still a great number and should have Suicide Squad settle at a much higher level than where it was and in a whole different league to the majority of Marvel’s titles.

Ray: Between Harley and the very strong debut numbers for Suicide Squad’s two issues, I think we can safely say that the the movie has moved the needle on this property a huge deal. However, the unconventional style of the book, splitting between the main story and origin backups, has gotten a mixed reception. As long as Jim Lee stays on the title, it should do well, but I’d watch for some pretty significant drops as time goes on.

Glenn: The only Marvel book in the top ten this month is their MVP title, Amazing Spider-Man which sells just over 185k. This is a massive jump but this issue is the prelude to the hotly anticipated Spider event of 2016, The Clone Conspiracy/Dead No More. Dan Slott has this midas touch on his self contained Spidey events that has earned a lot of retailer/fan trust. Given this is only the prelude, the numbers for the main mini and the real tie-ins should be massive. I would put solid money on the story outperforming Civil War II by quite a fair margin.

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Ray: That is a MASSIVE leap for Amazing Spider-Man, almost 100K worth. I’m surprised, because I don’t think the prologue issues got that much hype. I’m wondering if there was some retailer incentive that we might not know about. Keep in mind, the next issue is down at #32, selling over 100K less than this issue. And that issue was the one with two major twists in it about players in Clone Conspiracy. Odd.

Glenn: That is a pretty big drop from issue to the next, how odd. Still, the story line is due to be a big win at Marvel which they need at the moment.

Steady for the third month in is the 4th and 5th issues of Tom King’s Batman which get sales of just under 153k and just over 142k respectively. The drops are very small and the title is due to settle well above 100k before all is said and done. A remarkable success for the creative team who had big shoes to fit both creatively and financially.

Ray: All the Rebirth titles are still finding their level, but it seems very clear that Batman is going to be one of DC’s top titles if not the top one. This bodes well for the coming crossover with Nightwing and Detective, which will probably get a boost from their link to this book.

Glenn: We definitely can’t discount Detective Comics either which sells just under 89k and just under 81.5k at spots 17 and 26. Certainty not the runaway freight train success of Batman and All Star but still a big hit and destined to end up at a much higher level than its previous volume. DC has taken their almighty Bat line and somehow, made it stronger.

Showing to be another steady performer at a high level post Rebirth is Brian Hitch’s Justice League which has the second issue chart at 8 with sales of just over 127k. Given that Hitch is only handling the writing side, I think this is a big success and has boosted the book quite some bit. The other issue this month just misses out in the top ten and charts at eleven with sales of just over 110.7 so again the drops aren’t that big yet. It won’t be the hit Batman is but I would say it could be good for sales around 80k which is about the level the last volume ended on and without the involvement of Geoff Johns and having that twice a month will make DC very happy I’d wager.

Ray: Justice League seems like it’s sliding pretty fast, and will likely miss the top ten next month, but the numbers are still healthy. Given where the JL book under Johns wound up by the end of the run, I think this will likely find a similar level or a little below. This is going to be a book where having the title twice a month will be a major benefit to DC.

Glenn: The final book in the top ten this month is Supergirl’s Rebirth issue which sells just below 113k at 10. Miles ahead of the previous volume of Supergirl and maybe the biggest selling Supergirl title since the Jeph Loeb/Ian Churchill relaunch over ten years ago. Hype around the TV show will have helped but I think the Superman as a whole could be the biggest benefactors from Rebirth as a whole. The line never really found its footing in the new 52 but here it seems to be faring up a lot more. Another big win for DC and for one of their newest talent grabs in writer, Steve Orlando.

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Ray: The numbers on Supergirl: Rebirth are essentially right below what New Super-Man did last month, but given the way Rebirth issues do less than the actual #1, I wouldn’t be surprised to see September’s issue do 120K or more. This title has benefited from a long gap between Supergirl titles, and the fanbase has responded very well to the title overall. I think it’ll fall significantly from here, but if it settles roughly at the level of Superman or even Action Comics – very reasonable goals – DC will be very happy here. They have a Supergirl title that appeals to classic fans and fans of the TV series, with one of their hottest up-and-coming writers at the helm. Definitely another big win for Rebirth.

Glenn: I could easily see Supergirl pulling about the 60k level which will be fantastic. Probably a smart move not to make this one bi-monthly, DC knows on what books they can push their look by and large.

Ray: As we leave the top ten, I think it’s worth noting exactly what a slaughter this month was. Every single Rebirth title this month – 40 of them – landed in the top 52 this month. None sold under 54K. There were only 11 Marvel books and one Image mixed in with DC’s lot. Most of the Rebirth titles had fairly healthy holds from last month, so I’m primarily going to focus on the notable titles that launched this month.

Featuring Priest’s return to Big Two comics, Deathstroke: Rebirth has an incredibly impressive debut of 99K at #12. This is a title that was barely making a wave pre-Rebirth, but now it’s got a combination of critical buzz, a top-tier creator, and some of the most hype of any book in the wave. While the #1 issue falls 16K to #23, that’s still amazing numbers for a Deathstroke book, and if it keeps even half these sales six months from now, it’ll be one of their biggest success stories.

Glenn: DC Rebirth has really shown how to do a mass line relaunch well. I would say that the competition could learn a few lessons but given the amount of relaunches that have happened over the last number of years, they would really need to sit and be patient for a few years before trying something similar and I don’t see that happening.

Its great to see Priest back in Mainstream comics as he’s been absent for nearly 10 years (apart from his backup in the Deadpool wedding issue). It seems that Deathstroke has still got a solid fanbase despite having a few critical bumps the last few years. This seems to be a big critical hit so hopefully that’ll mean that this could be one that will climb rather than fall.

Ray: Even amid the wave of Rebirth books, Walking Dead gains nearly 20K in sales from last month, jumping to 97K. I’m not sure what went on with this issue, but it’s a testimony to just how powerful this book is. It weathered the storm of Rebirth far better than Marvel did.

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Glenn: Walking Dead doesn’t slow down for rain, hail or snow. I think this issue might have been the start of the books latest big story but either way, Walking Dead doesn’t need relaunches or incentives or whatnot. It just performs and just remains steady in the storm of stunts that goes on around it, its amazing to witness.

Ray: In month three, there’s a lot of books like Detective, Wonder Woman, Flash, Nightwing, and Superman that seem to be holding incredibly well. They start in the low 90K/high 80K range, and end with their second issue in the low 80K range. These books clearly haven’t found their level just yet, but they’re all selling roughly what double most of them were doing before Rebirth. There are no losers in Rebirth just yet.

Superwoman, the third new title launching out of the Superman line, kicked off its run with no small amount of controversy when it killed off one of its leads. However, it definitely got enough interest to start things off, as it landed at #16 with 92K sales. I’m not sure if it’s going to hold well, given the anger and the fact that the Superman line has never sustained this many books a month before, but at this point, Superman and his satellite characters are looking like the biggest winners coming out of Rebirth.

Glenn: Superwoman has one of the biggest named artists both on writing and drawing duties, I’m sure that it will find a very steady audience. It also got people talking which yes, can be for bad reasons but then again, the old saying is sometimes true about no such thing as bad press.

Ray: Continued strong numbers for Red Hood and the Outlaws as well, selling 83K for its #1 issue, only down 5K from its Rebirth issue. This is another book, like Deathstroke, that was doing mediocre numbers before the relaunch and has benefited massively from the fresh start. The new direction continues to get better reception as well, so this bounce may have lasting results.

Glenn: Jason had some major roles in both the hugely successful Bat weekly’s so he’s likely got his own dedicated fan base. Given how odd his co-stars are and how Lobdell is perceived by long term fans, these are brilliant numbers. They might lose a few readers when Artimus and Bizarro step in but even if it sells around 50k (which I’m sure it’ll do better than) then that would be brilliant.

Ray: Marvel did have some good news in the top 30, with both Star Wars and Black Panther doing strong numbers (85K and 83K respectively), although their ranking is obviously way down. These two seem fairly bulletproof, although Star Wars still hasn’t really found its level. It dropped 5K – while Black Panther actually jumped almost 10K! That book continues to be one of Marvel’s most impressive feats in recent years.

Glenn: Unlike most of the books that get the relaunch treatment over at Marvel, we hadn’t seen a Black Panther book in some time. Hopefully this absence making the heart grow fonder strategy will work for Fantastic Four when Disney crush Fox like puny ant.

Star Wars still conties its very slow glacial slide. Marvel continues to show they love having these books by announcing a Yoda book and a mystery new ongoing by Darth Vader writer Kieren Gillan.

Ray: Both the Green Lantern books are still falling fast, with Hal Jordan dropping over 10K between #2 and #3, and Green Lanterns losing 7K between #4 and #5. They’re both down to the mid-60K range, which bodes ill for the franchise as a whole.

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Glenn: Its like watching the house Geoff Johns built be knocked down. 70k isn’t a terrible number by any means. It is still doing a hell of a lot better than the most of Marvel’s line but yes, the franchise’s best days seem to be gone…for now. A creative shift and a new angle on the book could make all the difference. Until then as long as it settles around 60k I’m sure that DC will let this one go…for now.

Ray: One interesting note for me is the two Batgirl franchises, and how they’re distancing from each other. Batgirl and the Birds of Prey #1 sells over 77K, while Batgirl #2 is down to only 62K. However, retailers seem to be treating both the Rebirth and #1 issues as launches, so Birds is likely due for a harsher fall next month. We’ll see how they shake out when neither has that advantage, but Batgirl is falling harder than I would have expected. There’s only Three Rebirth issues below it.

Glenn: Its still a good 20k where it was before. If it settles soon, its won’t be a misfire but it could very well just land around the same numbers. Although the Bat books are all big performers, perhaps this one will prove to be the one that’s slightly left out in favour of the ones starring Bruce’s ‘sons’. The book is also written by new voices to comics that come from other media and this often breeds mixed results.

Ray: There’s a couple of other Marvel books hanging around the top 50, including Darth Vader, Han Solo, Spider-Man/Deadpool, Deadpool, and that second issue of ASM. None are doing spectacular numbers, but all remain mostly healthy.

Glenn: Black Panther, Deadpool, Spidey and Star Wars is where its at over at Marvel. Otherwise…

Ray: Blue Beetle was one of the more obscure characters getting the Rebirth treatment, and his Rebirth issue does healthy numbers at 72K. Most Rebirth titles have done far better, but given how Blue Beetle has struggled in the past to even stay alive as an ongoing, this is very good news. If it can hold half these numbers, DC will have a new modest hit on its hands.

Glenn: Jamie was a character that suffered a lot from the new 52 so hopefully his fans (as well as Ted Kord fans) will be here to support the book. This one will definitely end up being one of the lower selling Rebirth titles but if it can do about 40k it would still be outselling some X-Men books, some Avenger’s books, Guardians and Sam Wilson. Nothing to sneeze at.

Ray: Titans is also holding well, selling 72K for its #2 issue. It’s helped, I’m sure, by the fact that it’s Wally West’s main title, but these are the best numbers DC has gotten for any sort of a Titans book in a decade – and 400% the sales of Titans Hunt on average. Rebirth is lifting all boats, and this is one of the biggest winner.

Glenn: I’ll be curious how Teen Titans proper performs with the franchise languishing for close to a decade. If this is anything to go by then it might be a nice surprise for DC!

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Ray: New Super-Man, the most shocking debut of last month’s lineup, holds pretty well at #35 with 72K sales. This is more like I would have expected from this property, and it looks like the character might have some staying power.

Glenn: This is where I would expect a book like this to start but if it can settle around this number, then that’s brilliant. As you said on the Stew, the Superman line is the biggest winner overall from Rebirth I’d say.

Ray: It’s one of the lower-selling DC books right now, but Green Arrow has some really good news this month. Only losing 3K between #4 and #5, it seems to have stabilized quickly. The current run is getting some good reviews, so it may have found its level. If Green Arrow can find its place alongside Green Lantern in sales, that’s one of the biggest wins of Rebirth.

Glenn: Marvel books on their last relaunch were still seeing sharp differences in numbers by this point so those small drops are great news. Given how the title was performing previously, if it can hold steady around these numbers then yes again, its another huge win.

Ray: The biggest disappointment for Marvel this month, undoubtedly, has to be the sales of its two major Civil War II tie-ins, The Fallen and The Accused. Retailers didn’t treat them like must-buy comics, but rather like standard tie-ins. The Fallen, written by Greg Pak as a send-off for Bruce Banner, did a decent 66K at #41 and was generally well-received. The Accused, meanwhile, focused on Clint Barton’s trial and did 62K, but was not received nearly as well.

Glenn: Both books had the infamous mystery solicits and that’s something I think aggravates retailers more than anything. Local comic shop, The Big Bang stated how frustrated they were about the Fallen for example. We might see some reorders for both in the lower end of the chart next month. I do think this is a game that Marvel maybe needs to change their strategy on.

Ray: Something’s got to be at the bottom of the Rebirth roster, and the last three this month were two issues of Aquaman and one of Hellblazer. Aquaman continues to sink fast, but it’s staying above that critical 50K line. Hellblazer, while the second-lowest selling Rebirth book overall, it still sells almost 60K. That’s more than 400% over what the critically acclaimed previous series was doing.

Glenn: That’s a big upswing for Hellblazer and yes, not so good news for Aquaman but this is a title that has continually struggled unless it was written by Geoff Johns. If it can remain around this level then that’s fine, like you said, someone has to be last.

Ray: So, another massive, massive month for Rebirth. It’s not just how high the ceiling is for these books, it’s how low the floor is. Nothing from DC’s main line sold less than 54K this month. Aquaman sold more than all but 11 Marvel books. This is a full-on revolution in the industry, and DC is just getting started. They recently announced that wave two starts in January.

Glenn: I can’t wait to see B’wana Beast be DC’s next big hit and yes, I’m only half joking.

Ray: B’wana Beast may be a while off, but DC is testing the water with characters like Adam Strange, Vigilante, and Deadman in a few months’ time. They don’t have the official Rebirth branding, but we’ll see what the numbers show.

Glenn: Without the Rebirth brand, I’m not optimistic but you never know. We’re more likely to see some characters like Booster Gold or The Question and yes, I have now ventured into my own personal fantasy land lalalala.

Now that all the Rebirth madness is behind us, time to get some updates on how the other half is doing. Captain America: Steve Roger‘s seems to have stabilized with sales just under 50k at 58. Not terribly, not great and not worth all the song and dance we got about evil, evil, boo, hiss Hydra Cap. Still down a lot better than Sam’s Cap book which is at 91 with sales over 30k, I can see a scenario very soon where we just have one Captain America book once more.

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Ray: It’s quite the statement that even with this universally reviled twist, evil Hydra Cap is still outselling Sam Wilson by such a big margin, even with Sam Wilson in the middle of a Civil War II storyline. I don’t know the last time a replacement hero flopped this hard, but this is up there. We’ll see how long it is before Marvel gives up the ghost.

Glenn: It can’t be too long left and maybe the last time a replacement hero went down this poorly was maybe Simon Baz but he hasn’t really had the same opportunity to stand on his own like Sam (even though it wasn’t for long). The clock is definitely ticking on Sam Cap and female Thor, just in time for female Iron Man (sorry…Iron Heart) and evil Iron Doom.

Its time for some annuals with All New All Different Avengers Annual (try saying that 10 times fast) checking in at 61 with sales over 45k. This is just a shade below the newest issue of the main title so that’s pretty damn good for an Annual. It seems that retailers know what the audience is for this book pretty well. It’ll be interesting to see how that may change after the majority of the books cast gets moved over to Champions in a few months time.

Punisher has settles around mid 40k at 66. Better than some past Punisher series have performed in the past by about 10k or so if memory serves. Punisher has had a lot of relaunches and creative directions in the past number of years. This one seems pretty solid so I would say it’ll stick around.

Ray: Yeah, most of the past Punisher series were selling half these numbers by six months in. Punisher’s had a hard time selling outside of the MAX line for a long time, so Marvel has to be pretty happy with these. I think a big part of the success is probably due to iconic Punisher artist Steve Dillon coming back on the book. It gives it more of that Ennis/MAX vibe that people associate with Punisher.

Glenn: Becky Cloonan has also amassed herself a solid audience in recent times but yeah, Dillon is probably going to go down as the definitive Punisher artist so his involvement no doubt helps a lot.

Another annual, this time for Daredevil which sells just under 40k at 73. Again, this isn’t too far away from the books main numbers. Annuals usually sell a lot less than the main series so this is basically like Marvel getting more money for a regular issue which I’m sure isn’t upsetting anyone over there.

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Same again for All New Wolverine at 38k at 78. It probably helps that Marvel seems to have made an effort to try and get the same writers doing the annuals once more. For a period the annuals were sometimes were by completely random people and I think it caused disinterest, having the main writer on them makes it seem like an important part of the story to pick up.

Ray: These annuals did really well. I think a couple of factors went into this. First up, all of them had the regular writer on them – at least, ANAD Avengers for a few pages before it became an anthology. Daredevil was plot-relevant, ANAD had the much buzzed-about “Avengers fanfic” plot, and All-New Wolverine had the debut of WolverGwen, although it turned out to just be Gwen and Laura switching bodies for the issue. Either way, Marvel managed to get decent sales out of these, and I expect them to test the water with more annuals in the future.

Glenn: As long as they’re relevant, I wouldn’t be opposed to them, even if it is paying more for a mostly regular issue. Hopefully long gone are the days are random annuals that are random *looks at Avenging Spider-Man Annual #1 with shaking head*

Ray: It’s been gone since long before Rebirth, but Bryan Hitch’s Justice League of America still puts up decent numbers, with 44K at #64. It’s lost some sales since its last issue, of course, but remember that it was one of DC’s top selling titles in its original run. That shows just how much Rebirth has moved the needle – this book sold 10K less than the lowest-selling Rebirth title this month.

Jane Foster as Thor is still doing really well, in Marvel’s top 20% of books, but that’s likely reaching the natural end of its storyarc much the way past popular replacements like Dick Grayson and Bucky did. Aaron made clear it wouldn’t be permanent from the start and Thor: Ragnarok is around the corner.

Glenn: The question I have is what happens to Thor once this story is done? Is Aaron moving on or does he have something else major up his sleeve? After Steve came back as Captain America during Brubaker’s run, it seemed to suffer ever so slightly but performed well sales wise. Will we see history repeat itself? Dan Slott shows it can be done so time will tell.

Guardians at 84 with sales just under 35k. Sad times.

Ray: Guardians has really lost virtually all the momentum it had as a franchise. Just in time for three new #1s starring the characters to launch in a few months! This won’t go well.

Glenn: Yeah, its like chasing the hype they had only a year ago. They’re probably pumping them out to get as many Guardians trades out in time for the next movie as possible but I don’t think those monthly numbers will be too healthy outside of maybe Rocket.

New Turtles book from IDW in the form of TMNT Universe launches at 85 with sales of just over 34k. Around the number you would expect for a new Turtle’s verse book but priced at $4.99. I’m not sure if this is for every issue but $4.99 for issue ones is becoming a rather unsettling regular trend.

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Ray: That’s strong numbers for TMNT Universe. IDW’s slowly but surely built up a small franchise around their TMNT comics, and this book is essentially a way to combine the various miniseries they’ve been doing into one cohesive series. It seems to have paid off, as it definitely outsold most of the miniseries in recent times.

Glenn: At 90 we have Marvel Tsum Tsum with sales a shade over 30.5k. I’d say that’s a whopping success for a comic about stuffed toy versions of Marvel’s heroes. I’d make a joke about a POP tie-in but we’ve already had a lot of variants and I just don’t have the energy to be sad about the reality of it probably happening.

Ray: That’s…actually a shockingly good number for Tsum Tsums? Most of these kids’ tie-in books do terrible bumbers in the direct market, but this actually seems to have a bit of momentum. For a book about little flying stuffed peanuts. Can’t wait for the miniseries where Deadpool teams up with Tsum Tsum Deadpool.

Glenn: Don’t tempt them Ray. Much like POPs, Tsum Tsums have caught on incredibly fast and have amassed a very passionate collecting community. This is likely the explanation for the sales I’d say.

New Image launch in the form of Kill Or Be Killed at 93 with sales of 30k nearly on the dot. Given this is a book from the regular duo of Brubaker and Philips, I might have expected more but its still a very good debut. This creative team have spent the last number of years delivering one critical hit after another so its just another one in the long run for their already impressive library of work at Image.

Ray: I think Brubaker and Philips have become a brand in their own right by now for Image. Retailers know what to expect from their books, they know who wants them, and they order accordingly. It’s like a much higher-volume version of what I said about books like Prophet and Groo in the past. I expect while it didn’t launch as large as some top-name Image books, it’ll hold extremely well.

Glenn: That’s true, the hold on the Bru/Phillips book will probably be around the same as launch numbers. Nothing to sneeze at if it sells this every issue while their current saga plays out.

Sharp drop for Civil War II: Kingpin with it being at 97 with sales of just over 28.7k. Not sure that bodes well for the ongoing Marvel has planned for a few months but if it can perform at these sales on a regular basis, it might buy it some life. The real test will be where next issue lands.

Just below that at 99 is Spawn Kills Everyone with sales just over 28k. I assume this is some sort of take on the Punisher Kills Everyone graphic novel from years past but I’d not sure. Given that Spawn is well past his peak popularity, that’s not too bad a number.

Ray: Spawn Kills Everyone was…an odd comic. It was about Chibi Spawn going to Comic Con and murdering everyone he meets, and that was about it. Given what a bizarre comic it was, I think this was actually a pretty decent number. That being said, I’m kind of surprised how little attention Todd McFarlane actually being involved on this comic got. The days of the Image old guard being a big draw are long gone.

Glenn: Except for Jim Lee but he went to DC probably at the right time to avoid the effect we’re now seeing on the other founders. I’d wager that if McFarlene said he was going to draw one more issue of say, Spider-Man it would sell like hot cakes but yeah, the Image founder properties don’t seem to get the same benefit.

At 100 is the fourth issue of Scooby Apocalypse with sales over 28k. Its anyone’s guess what DC is expecting out of these Hanna Barbara books but I think this is a pretty great number for a tie in that has little to do with the source material. DC must be happy as we’re getting two more HB comics in the near future. This book selling this at 100 shows that we’re a good bit away from the grim overall outlook we were talking about only a few months ago.

Ray: Hanna-Barbera seems to have found its level, with Scooby Apocalypse still doing solid numbers and Future Quest only a few spots below with sales of over 25K. These books are fine. The other books may have trouble, though – Flintstones is down to only 19K at #128 with issue #2, which is a really steep drop from the first issue. And the less said about Wacky Raceland‘s 13K at #170, the better. And the really worrisome thing? The two additional upcoming books are spinoffs of the latter two.

Glenn: Is Jetson‘s a spin off of Flintstones? You learn something new here every month at by the numbers! Again, I would chalk up Wacky Raceland getting a spin off cause Garth Ennis just showed up one day and said he wanted to do it. I would expect some sort of continuation of Future’s Quest by the same creative team is in the pipeline.

Ray: Jetsons isn’t a spin-off of Flintstones per se, but I think the two are forever linked in most people’s minds because of the very popular “The Flintstones Meet the Jetsons” movie that was maybe the biggest spotlight for both franchises. I think Flintstones is probably the high end for Jetsons, although the creative team on Jetsons is higher-profile.

Glenn: The creative team will def help Jetsons, those writers outsold Batman!!!

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Ray: Besides JLoA and Scooby Apocalypse, there were only three other additional non-Rebirth books in the top 100. And they all feature Harley Quinn. Little Black Book is still selling well at #76 with 38K, while the sales are less impressive for the Gang of Harleys spin-off, which ships two issues this month at #87 and #94. As we saw by the top of the charts, though, Harley definitely still has some huge pull.

I think it’s worth noting that it’s only six issues in, but International Iron Man, Bendis’ big secondary Iron Man book revealing the truth about Iron Man’s parents, is at #98, just about to fall out of the top 100. 28K in sales. That does not bode well at all for Marvel’s attempt to launch two new Iron Man titles with two different characters soon.

Glenn: The writing is on the wall for International, we’ll see if the relaunch of both Iron Man books will serve them well but I’m having serious doubts.

Ray: Much like with Kill or Be Killed, I think retailers mostly know how to order a new Jonathan Hickman title, and his supernatural Wall Street mystery The Black Monday Murders sells just under 27K at 104. This is a dense and ambitious comic that will likely be very popular in trades, but I expect its direct market sales to remain relatively strong as well.

Glenn: The comic sounds quite high brow so yeah, retailers probably know who is going to come in and pick this up. I expect it to have a solid hold too. The group of Hickman, BKV and Brubaker have carved themselves a nice little decent sized audience over at Image. Perhaps not the chart breakers that Millar or Snyder come out with but very respectable and very stable.

Ray: The spin-off miniseries exploring the central character of Civil War II, Ulysses, didn’t crack the top 100 and only sold 25K at #107. To put this in perspective, that’s only 2K more than the third issue of Civil War II: Gods of War, which is a repurposed Hercules are. I don’t think I need to tell you just how bad this is.

Glenn: Yeahhhhhh, the less said here the better. Given how vital the character is to the whole story, I would have thought there would be more interest. I remember something similar to a mini titled ‘Osborn‘ released after Seige which for all intents and purposes was a follow on and it sold abysmally. I don’t like the chances for the new Inhuman character, Mosaic when that book launches in a few months.

Ray: Much like with the other annuals this month, Uncanny Inhumans‘ annual did very close to the main book as well, selling only 6K below. Obviously, the numbers as a whole are lower, because Inhumans just isn’t the franchise Marvel wants it to be, but as a whole, it seems like Marvel has managed to get annuals to sell again.

And speaking of annuals, BOOM! is getting into the money with them as well! Their top franchise, Mighty Morphin’ Power Rangers, sells 25K with its regular series this month, at #108, and then another 18K for its $7.99 annual at #137. Good numbers for such an expensive book, and easily Boom’s two highest-selling books this month.

Glenn: BOOM! has really hit gold with these Power Rangers books. You would think it would suffer from the same issue the Skull Island book has (too early) but apparently not. I wouldn’t be surprised if Boom starts releasing a lot more Power Rangers books featuring side characters much like the Marvel Star Wars books. That Bulk and Skull book the market has been clamoring for can still happen!

Ray: August was obviously a good month for Suicide Squad, as we saw by four related books in the top ten. The news wasn’t as good for the franchise if you didn’t have a Rebirth logo on the cover, though. DC launched two new spin-offs. One, War Crimes by original series writer John Ostrander, was a one-shot and sold 25K at #105. The other, the next volume of the Most Wanted anthology series, only sold 18.6K at #133. This one features El Diablo and a rotating second feature starting with Captain Boomerang, so these aren’t really A-list characters, although it is notable for being the first book featuring graduates from the initial DC Writers’ Workshop.

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Glenn: Side books starring even top franchise characters with the exception of Batman and Spider-Man always have a hard time. DC was probably pushing their luck here but they could have done a lot worse I suppose. On the latter book, it could be just a test of the chops some of those graduates have more than anything.

Ray: Snotgirl had a pretty hefty fall to #113, but it’s still selling roughly 23K, which puts it in the top tier of Image books – for now. It’s selling about the same as I Hate Fairyland and Outcast, but those two are much further into their run.

Glenn: Snotgirl could stabilize, Brian Lee O’Mally has his own dedicated audience and it seems to be one of those books that people will make their mind up on quickly. If it can even do 17k or so that would still put it 10k above the majority of Image’s output.

Ray: Another decent debut for Dark Horse, as Brian Wood’s new slow-burn thriller Briggs Land – which has already been optioned for a TV series – lands 20K in sales at #127. The top-selling Dark Horse book of the moth, and about 500 units more than Black Hammer sold last month to launch.

Glenn: I’m surprised Wood’s name pushed more copies than Lemire’s but perhaps people are going by the concept on these books rather than the creators? Its hard to tell with Dark Horse’s murky situation. That’s a decent debut for sure but like we said with Black Hammer last month, you have to wonder what the numbers would have been over at Image,

Ray: Talking again about Annuals, DC Bombshells has its first annual this month, and it pretty much keeps pace with the parent book, only 1K in sales between them at #140 and #149. This is an out-of-continuity book, so retailers probably know its audience will follow the story in any issues it puts out, and it’s usually oversized so there’s only one dollar’s difference between a regular issue and an annual.

Glenn: We’re getting some Rebirth title Annuals in a few months and I’d expect them to be much the same. They’ll sell well if the main book is doing well (like Batman, etc) but others like Aquaman may be lower. It seems to be a good month for annuals, like you said and that is very much going against a trend outlined over the last number of years.

Ray: More slightly good news for Dark Horse, as Joelle Jones’ creator-owned series Lady Killer returns for its second volume with sales of just over 16.6K at #147. For a cult book published by Dark Horse, that’s pretty decent numbers.

Glenn: I’ve not heard of this one so yeah, I’d say that’s a very strong showing for the title. Given that this is a follow on series, the audience is already probably pretty firmly established so this will probably see another solid hold which is something that Dark Horse will find handy.

Ray: And just below it, Black Hammer holds more than 75% of its sales with #2 to chart at #153 with 16.2K. I think we can call this one a lasting hit for Dark Horse, and we’ll see if the it reclaims its spot as the top-selling Dark Horse book next month.

Black Hammer outsold Jupiter’s Legacy by one spot. Lemire/Ormstrom just beat Millar/Quitely. That blows my mind, and man, Jupiter’s Legacy has really lost all of its momentum due to the delays.

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Glenn: The effect on the delay on Jupiter’s Legacy is rather astounding isn’t it? Very different from the market 10 years ago, the current day comic buying public don’t have the funds or patience to wait on books that are no shows in regards to indies at least. Great news for Dark Horse and the Black Hammer crew of course, given how much critical hype the book has gotten, I could see it holding this level for its duration and being a steady collection seller for decades to come.

Ray: So, remember that miniseries from DC You, All-Star Section Eight? Apparently DC thought people wanted a sequel focusing on the drunk and the guy who welds dead dogs to people. Well, it only sold 15K to start at #160. Not a strong start. This will probably be selling four digits very soon if not next issue. Ennis doesn’t have the pull he used to, which bodes ill for Dastardly and Muttley.

Glenn: I don’t remember All Star Section Eight and neither do many others. I think with Ennis it also depends on the property so you never know. His books also seem to stabilize quick s lets see if this one can stay around the 10k mark at least.

Ray: The new Image horror series Demonic has one of the weaker debuts of the month, selling 14.4K at #165. This one seems to have sort of slipped under the radar, but if it holds well from here it could survive. About average for an Image book without big names attached.

Glenn: I think Image really should be pushing these unknown creative team books a bit more. We all know about the big ones but the smaller ones like Demonic do tend to slip under the radar. Like you said, not a terrible debut and about normal for a book that will have to sink or swim very soon.

Ray: The news wasn’t good for all the month’s annuals, as Gotham Academy‘s annual, coming a month before the title relaunches, only gets 11.5K in sales at #188. This was a great issue, but the title has always struggled in sales. I’m hoping it gets some new momentum when it comes back with a new #1 in September, but I’m worried that this is destined to be another one of my favorites that’s gone way too soon.

Glenn: Gotham Academy is a very niche book, I think. It has a small, dedicated and passionate audience so the lowish sales of the annual don’t surprise me. Given how long its been since a regular issue came out, some of its fans may not have returned for this but may show up for the second semester. If the new launch of the book can go around 30k or so then it’ll be a big win.

Ray: It’s three months into Rebirth, but DC Universe: Rebirth manages to chart again, selling 11K at #192. The book that started it all just keeps on adding sales as more and more people get on board. I wonder what the sales on this book will look like totaled up. It’s likely massive.

Glenn: I COULD go and check…but I won’t. I’m just going to estimate that the number is somewhere between a lot and a whole lot. Hopefully this still shows that fans who are new or are coming back to comics are still coming in wanting to read it to see if Rebirth is for them. I think it was a stunning issue so I think it deserves any unit it sells.

Just above that at 189 is Nighthawk at 11k. The reason for its cancellation status continues to become apparent.

Ray: There’s been a lot of thinkpieces on Nighthawk and its cancellation, and what it means given the subject matter. But at the end of the day, it was a Squadron Supreme spinoff and it never had a chance. I’m hoping Marvel takes the lessons of this wave of failed launches and applies them to -(sees Foolkiller, Prowler, Solo, Slapstick, GLA ongoings coming towards him) Oh.

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Glenn: Marvel just really likes to see what works. Sometimes they get a surprise hit, mostly it just seems to be books that not a lot of people read. Its a very haphazard strategy but one they’ve been implementing steadily for years.

Issue 2 of Batman 66 Meets The Avengers (the British ones) sells just over 11k also. Pretty standard for an out of date version of Batman and a property that had teddy bears as the villains in its last major showing (no seriously).

Ray: These Batman ’66 crossover spin-offs always have an audience, but this one has neither writer Jeff Parker, or the popularity of a franchise like Man from UNCLE or Green Hornet. Given that, these numbers are acceptable.

Glenn: Faith from Valient has just over 10.5k on her second issue at 195. That’s not too bad and given how dedicated her audience is, its another one due to stabilize fast. Again, in the current market Valient continues to be the scrappy underdogs/dark horses in the race.

Ray: Valiant seems to have carved out a small but solid niche in the market, and they have another #1, Generation Zero, which is a spin-off of Harbinger, launching at #152 with sales of over 16K. That’s pretty solid, and the title seems to be getting good reception. Faith is stabilizing nicely, and the one-shot War Mother does decently for a tie-in with no name recognition as well.

Glenn: To drive the point home further another one of their titles launches at 198 with sales just under 10.3k. It seems like retailers know who the audience is for these books and if their whole line is around the same level, that’s not necessarily a bad thing for a company still establishing itself.

For the sake of balance, Civil War II also recharts at 200 with sales just over 9.7k. It’ll definitely make an impact when it returns but where it’ll chart and how many digits it’ll sell will be something I’ll be very interested to see. The main mini has certainty been a good seller as long as its not compared with the runaway freight train of its predecessor but its had a lot less impact than the tie ins of the first Civil War did. I would say that we’ll not be getting Civil War III but even Secret Wars III happened…

Ray: I think Marvel will probably go through Secret Invasion II and a few others first, but I’m sure we’ll get there. Next time, Captain Marvel and Spider-Man battle over whether heroes should have to wear long pants. Spider-man says it’s just too hot out.

Glenn: Just below it at 201 is BOOM! publishing an anniversary comic about the Jim Henson classic, Labyrinth selling just over 9.6k. I thought it would have been good for a few units more given the tragic passing of the films star, David Bowie this year but given that it was priced $9.99 and its always been something of a cult classic that’s still very impressive.

Ray: Yeah, for a $9.99 book that may be partially reprints, that was definitely a decent number. I imagine Bowie’s passing did get it a lot of added attention, as I rarely see the Henson Studios books in the top 300.

Glenn: Second issue of Conan the Slayer lands at 203 with sales of 9.5k. Pretty standard for Conan in the past, this is for the same fans that have been reading his loin cloth wearing adventures for decades and I wouldn’t say much will change in that regard.

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Ray: Dark Horse has been consistently selling Conan books for well over a decade, and they’re always sold steadily if unspectacularly. Much like a few other books, this is one where retailers likely know exactly who wants it and it’ll stay steady from here.

Glenn: There’s another new Dark Horse launch in Kingsway West at 205 which also sells 9.5k. This is a book by Greg Pak who is hardly an unknown but…here we are. Its not the worst debut ever but the numbers are likely to get very ugly, very fast. I don’t want to keep beating a Dark Horse but…this is just the way things are at the moment for the company. Its sad.

Ray: I was definitely hoping for more out of Kingsway West. Van Lente, Jensen, and now Pak have all launched books at Dark Horse recently and had poor numbers, although I believe this is significantly better than either Weird Detective or Cryptocracy got.

Glenn: Titan has yet another TV tie in with Torchwood, the Doctor Who spin off at 9.4k which gives it #206. Given that the last Torchwood series aired five years ago (and was awful) this could have been a lot worse. This is one for the die hard fans hoping for a revival of the series. I’m wondering if Titan will also publish a tie-in comic for the upcoming Doctor Who spin off, Class. It would make sense and would probably fare a lot better sales wise given how hard the BBC is promoting it.

Ray: Much like Power Rangers at BOOM!, Doctor Who seems to be Titan’s one reliable franchise. As they continue to get decent numbers, I’d be surprised if they didn’t milk it for all its worth.

Glenn: Next up in Doctor Who comics, K-9 and Handles vs the universe! You know, that would actually probably be awesome.

We’ll not tell Marvel that all these books outsold Drax at 207 with sales just over 9.3k if you don’t. I wouldn’t expect to see many more comics being written or co-written by CM Punk in the near future, at least at Marvel but…you never know.

Another Image launch at 208 with Lake Of Fire which sells just over 9.1k which is written by Nathan Fairbairn who has some pretty impressive credits as a colourist but this is his first venture as a writer. The concept seems quite niche to me and I’m sure that’s what retailers go by if the name attached to the book doesn’t resonate that much.

Ray: Yeah, Lake of Fire is an oddball one. Crusaders vs. Demons. The art is absolutely gorgeous, but this is definitely one of Image’s more niche efforts. Still, if it stays fairly steady from here, it should be fine for the run.

Glenn: Yet another launch from Aftershock by another top creator in Marguerite Bennett’s Animosity which sells just over 9k at #209. Not bad for a small company that continues to roll out book with one top name after another. This comic got some buzz so might have a growing audience out of curiosity more than anything but we’ll see.

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Ray: Animosity has reportedly done really well in reorders, so I wouldn’t be surprised to see it stay relatively steady from here. Still, Aftershock may have the names, but it clearly doesn’t have the hype just yet. We’ll see if they can build on these books with new ones coming from big names like Warren Ellis soon.

Glenn: Likely for die hard Ellis heads (they’re not called that) and people interested in the subject. There really is a comic out there for everyone.

I won’t tell Marvel that all these outsold Hyperion at #211 with sales of 8.9k on the dot if you don’t. *sad trombone noise*

Ray: Garth Ennis has a new military comic out from Dark Horse, World of Tanks, which charts at #224 with sales just over 8K. Very much a comic for military buffs without Ennis’ usual over-the-top style, this is probably about what could be expected for this title.

In more bad news for one of our usual targets here, Vertigo’s top-selling title this month is Lucifer with sales of 9.5K at #204 – but then it’s a drop of over 70 slots to find the next one. Clean Room sells just under 6K at #284, and The Sheriff of Babylon – by the hottest writer in comics right now, Tom King – is circling the bottom at #296. With three issues to go, this brilliant military noir likely won’t end its run in the top 300.

Glenn: More and more bad news for Vertigo. Fables coming up will help but I don’t think it’ll hold for long but will likely be a 300 main stray. We’ll see how the Young Animal line performs starting next month, if it manages to stay around the 20-40k range, would there be a need for the Vertigo brand anymore?

Ray: Top Cow likely had high hopes for their first major crossover in a while, featuring all of Matt Hawkins’ properties – Postal, The Tithe, and Think Tank. These were all sort of niche books, but I imagine they were still hoping for more than sales of 7.6K at #236. Crossovers don’t really boost sales if there’s no large existing fanbase.

Glenn: Top Cow is a company that doesn’t really grab many people’s attention any more. They have their die hard fans and that’s it. They just do what they do and shuffle along as part of Image. I honestly can’t remember the last time I saw a Top Cow comic.

Ray: There’s a lot of holdovers and small-scale debuts like a new Evil Ernie book or a Mycroft spin-off from Titan’s Sherlock books, but there’s one new debut in particular circling the very bottom of the top 300 that genuinely shocked me, and that’s The Backstagers, from BOOM!, at #288 with sales of just over 5.7K. This was a book that got a ton of hype, with the author of Batman and Robin Eternal and now Detective Comics on board – and it had one of the worst debuts for a comic of this scale in a long time. What went wrong? I have genuinely no idea. BOOM! Box has developed a reputation as a popular teen brand with books like Lumberjanes, Giant Days, and Jonesy, but this theater-crew adventure didn’t seem to benefit despite having the highest-profile creative team of any of them. The only thing I can think of is that Boom Box’s core audience didn’t want to read a story about boys, and boys don’t read BOOM! Box. Very disappointing, and I hope it rebounds in the coming months and in collections. James Tynion has talked about how personal this book is for him and it deserves more attention.

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Glenn: This is the guy who co-plotted and drove both Eternal weekly’s, has written Batman here and there and oh yeah, is the writer on Detective Comics. Did maybe just no one notice this? All I can think is this book maybe not finding an audience or retailers missing the boat on it. We’ll see if many people miss it, obviously with his status at DC, Tynion has a lot of supporters so if he keeps pushing the book it could creep up. It’ll need to do that soon though at this level.
The Mycroft title is interesting cause its based off a book by Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, a former basketball player who decided to write a Sherlock Holmes story. The funny thing is, the book is apparently brilliant but novel adaptions are rarely big drivers in comics. People that read them in the original prose aren’t looking to reread with fancy pictures. Game Of Thrones is arguably the hottest show on television and has made the books must reads but the comic never charts (when it comes out).

Final book on the charts this month is some reorders for Uncanny Inhumans 11 which sells just over 5.4k. Its a Civil War II tie-in but it doesn’t leap out to me why this sold a bunch of extra copies for no apparent reason. A mystery!

Ray: I believe this issue of Uncanny Inhumans features the first appearance of Mosaic, who’s jumping into his own series immediately. The reorders are a decent boost, given that this issue was ordered before Mosaic’s role was revealed, but this isn’t the kind of reorders that make a difference for the upcoming title. I still expect a book with a new Inhuman lead character to be a hard sell. Mosaic isn’t getting Kamala’s buzz.

Glenn: Next month sees a few more Rebirth launches and the return of Civil War II. Can it make the top ten? We’ll soon see. We also will see the first book from the Young Animal line, Doom Patrol so that’ll be interesting to see how that goes for DC and see if their hot streak can extend beyond Rebirth. There’s also a Raven mini but without the Rebirth branding it may struggle. We might see a surge on Detective for the infamous incident that happened a few weeks ago which I won’t spoil here. Image sees the launch of Horizon’s Wall by the creative team behind C.O.W.L., a new title by Rick Remender while Archie launches another ongoing with a new take on Josie and The Pussycats. I’m expecting big things from the Remender book, otherwise we’ll just see.

Ray: Yeah, this month brings some interesting Rebirth launches. It’s a lot of the lower-tier titles. Blue Beetle, Cyborg, Batman Beyond, as well as a few bigger names like Teen Titans and Trinity. Plus, we’ll see how Supergirl holds with its #1 issue. We won’t see the meteoric numbers for some books like we did this month, but it’ll still likely be some good numbers. The most interesting thing for me is what book takes #1 this month – my money is on All-Star Batman. There’s also a few interesting side books like the aforementioned Doom Patrol, plus Gotham Academy: Second Semester, and two Vertigo launches, Everafter and Frostbite (from Flash writer Josh Williamson).

Marvel…not much. The main story will be how much Civil War II falls, but it’s the calm before the storm, as Marvel’s next big relaunch begins in October.

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Seven to Eternity, by Remender/Opena is definitely the big new launch of the month from indie companies, and I’m expecting big numbers, probably bigger than we saw for Kill or Be Killed this month. I’m also interested in seeing how oddball Valiant miniseries Brittania does when it launches. It’s one of Valiant’s riskiest properties.

Plus, will Boo, The World’s Cutest Dog be able to duplicate the success of Grumpy Cat? I know that’s the question everyone is wondering. That and other questions answered next time on By the Numbers!

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By The Numbers: July 2016

Like in any industry, comic books and their companies listen most to one thing and that’s your money! What does your money tell them? What does it tell us as fans? What series do people say they adore but can’t seem to catch a break and what books to people hate that sell out? What are the trends? What looks good? What looks rough?

All these questions and more will be answered here, every month in ‘By The Numbers’ by comic writers, editors and fans, Glenn Matchett and Ray Goldfield.

Glenn Matchett is a comic writer and editor. He’s worked in the industry for 6 years but grew up reading comics. He is currently published with Outre Press, Nemeses Studios and Alterna! This will be the last sales article he writes before the arrival of his son!

Ray Goldfield is a fan of comic books for going on 25 years, starting with the death of Superman. He is a writer and editor for Grayhaven Comics and is working on his first novel. Ray also does a weekly roundup of DC comic reviews for website Geekmom and they’re brilliantly entertaining. Ray has pondered the true meaning of reality since finding V’s mask in his closet a few months ago.

We also do a podcast together with longtime buddy, Brandon James on iTunes with Rabbitt Stew or at the link here! Don’t ask, I didn’t pick the name. If you’d like to hear what me and Ray sound like, give it a listen! We talk about this sales chart (among many, many other things) here

Full top 300 for June available here!

Glenn: Well we promised an interesting July charts and at By the Numbers, we keep our word and then some. This is quite possibly the most insane top 300 we’ve seen since myself and Ray started doing this. Before we get to the insanity of the chart itself, lets talk about the overall Market share and Dollar share. For the first time in a while (years certainty) DC beat Marvel. Rebirth is here and the theme of old wounds being healed while trying to appeal a new audience is seemingly paying off in spades. Its not much of a victory with Dollar Share in particular only being around 1% higher.
On paper it doesn’t seem like a big deal but when you consider the fact that a) DC is releasing a lot less books and b) their books are a lot cheaper, this victory says VOLUMES. A win is a win and DC have demolished Marvel this month. Is it just a blip? Its possible but with All Star Batman clocking in at over 350k (reportedly) next month, this could be the turn of a tide. A mixture of Rebirth’s success, general indifference towards Civil War II and more than we can talk about here is crafting a story. If this continues, there is going to be a lot of big changes coming up at the house of ideas.

Of course, don’t just believe us. Lets see the story the numbers tell. Remember that all Rebirth books are returnable so actual numbers on those are likely higher than reported.

Ray: Even though the actual margin is small, like you said, this was an absolute trouncing in every way that matters. With the pricing difference and the difference in amount of product, it is near impossible for DC to win. The fact that they did is a testament to just how well every single Rebirth book did.
To put this in perspective, DC scored 20 of the top 22 books. In the middle of an event Marvel was hoping to be a blockbuster. DC essentially owned the top of the charts this month and sent a host of utterly dominant titles out of the top 20. And they still barely won the month. Readers, keep that in mind when you look at the market share every month.

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Glenn: Rebirth has been a big win for DC and we’ve still got a lot of books to debut.

Debuting at number 1 is Justice League 1 written by Bryan Hitch and drawn by Tony Daniel. They’re both well top artists which helped them get sales of of over 209k but I think this is due more to the success of the Justice League brand. During the new 52 the title written throughout that period by Geoff Johns was a constant solid performer. Of course, this is essentially the ‘B’ level Justice League title while the main book remains shrouded in mystery *coughs*SnyderCapullo *coughs* so the sales are even more impressive taking that into account.

Right below that at 2 is Justice League: Rebirth continuing last months trend of the official launch usually faring better than the Rebirth intro. This book both written and drawn by Hitch sold over 177.6k, I might have thought it might have done better due to Hitch’s art but its still a great number.

Ray: Both Justice League issues did incredibly solid numbers, especially as neither the creative team (Bryan Hitch writing without Bryan Hitch art on most issues) or the book itself had a ton of buzz coming into this. The JL brand itself carries a lot of clout, and I expect we’ll see the title be a long-standing hit for DC. It’s surprising that #1 sold more than the Rebirth issue, since the Rebirth issue was the one with actual Hitch art.

Glenn: Number 3 this month is the second issue of Tom King’s Batman which sells over 177k here and just south of 170k for issue three at sales spot number 5. We’re still in the books buffer months but that’s a great hold for the book. Batman has become a title that sells well regardless of who is writing it but I’m sure King and co have plenty planned to make people glad they’re ordering it. Can it match the success of Snyder/Capullo Batman? It’s off to a promising start, that’s for sure.

Ray: Batman sandwiching THAT issue of Civil War is incredibly impressive. This book has been met with near-universal acclaim since it began, and these are some very soft, very impressive drops we see here. From 176 to 168K from issue 2-3? This is looking like a book that’s going to be in the 6-digit range for a long time. Can King get to 51 issues above 100K like Snyder did? We shall see.

Glenn: Next at 4 is Marvel’s Civil War II issue 3 which sells just over 176.8. Certainty a very good number but Marvel was hyping this one to the moon and back as it featured a major characters demise so you may have expected a lot more. Once upon a time, Marvel joked it was going to kill off a character every quarter to boost their numbers. Without actually going back to see if they’ve done exactly that, they’ve played the death card a lot in the last few years so the effect may be wearing thin. The other Civil War II issue 4 sold over over 126.8k at 7 which means they were the only two Marvel books in the top ten. Given how hyped Civil War II was and what it is a sequel of, the numbers can be viewed a number of ways. Its certainty selling very well but I think Marvel would have wanted more out of it. Given that its now been extended another part could we see their biggest event ever (until the next one) drop below 100k before we’re done?

Ray: As predicted, Civil War II did get a decent boost for the issue with the big death (about 25K over #2), but then it immediately loses all that and more, with #3 plunging right down to the lower half of the top 10 and around 126K. With that, especially given how poorly the big twist was received, I don’t think it’s an if anymore – this title will be out of the six-digit range by the end of its run, maybe sooner rather than later. Of course, given the recently announced delays, it’ll be absent entirely in August, and given how weakly the tie-ins are doing, August could be a very ugly month for Marvel.

Glenn: Compared to how well Secret Wars did last year, I think Civil War II is going to be a weak platform for some of the new titles Marvel is hoping to launch out of it. After the last relaunch, sales kept taking huge losses several issues in so it could be a very sad latter half of 2016 for Marvel.

Bucking the trend with a high selling Rebirth issue is Nightwing at 6 with sales over 127.8k. This is a great launch for a character that was nearly killed off a number of years ago. I’d say this is a mixture of fans being excited for Dick’s return to his costumed alias and writer Tim Seeley who was a major part of Batman Eternal and Batman and Robin Eternal. Its insane that Rebirth has made Nightwing outsell a lot of books branding a Civil War logo, including the fourth issue of the main title. It doesn’t just seem to be a fluke either with the first issue of the main book at number 9 with sales of over 114.7k. If this book can fall anywhere in the 70-80k region that would be an amazing success for a Nightwing book.

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Ray: These Nightwing numbers are pretty incredible, given that this is a straight continuation from Grayson, which was always a solid seller but never a gangbusters one. I wonder if part of this book’s success is that the concept/brand has been absent for a long time and there was a hunger. If so, look for Supergirl and Blue Beetle to reap the same benefits in August. Absence makes the heart go fonder.

Glenn: I have every confidence that Supergirl will be a big hit with the new lease of life the Superman line has, Steve Orlando’s previous work and her being absent for a good bit. I’m not as confident in Blue Beetle but with the title returning to its roots, it could be a pleasant surprise.

In another surprise, New Super-Man launches at 8 with sales over 117.6k. Its always hard to get fans invested in a new character, even if its a play of an existing one but here it seems Rebirth is working its magic again. By all accounts, this seems to be the story that writer Gene Luen Yang came to DC to tell. Its impressive the title has gathered interested considering that Yang came at the end of a lukewarm selling/received Superman run coming from a long line of more of the same. This title seems to be offering something new and a little different to fans, for a change people have responded accordingly.

Ray: You won’t find a more shocking debut than New Super-Man. This title had some buzz coming into the relaunch, because a lot of people wanted to see what an indie talent like Yang could do on his own concept. But I was hoping for a debut in the 70-80K range, which would be huge for a new character spinning off from an existing franchise. A good comparison here is Ms. Marvel, although this title has a much bigger parent franchise. And it exploded out of the gate incredibly fast. If it can hold even a third of these sales long-term, the Super-franchise has a new mainstay.

Glenn: Skipping down to number 10 we have the launch of Hal Jordan and the Green Lantern Corps: Rebirth selling just south of 114k. It seems that people are just as interested in this than the ‘main’ Green Lantern title but I would say that’s to do with the name recognition Hal Jordan brings. Another great launch for Rebirth and a solid land for the titles ‘real’ launch at 11 with sales over 108.7k.

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Ray: I think people may have honestly been a bit confused about which Green Lantern title was the primary one, and these two books did debut in similar ranges – with Hal Jordan having a slight edge. I will say, though, that Green Lanterns had one of the harshest slides of the new titles, which we’ll talk about later, so keep an eye on this one. Either it’ll firmly establish itself as the primary GL title, or it’ll join its partner book in dropping.

There was not one but two Batgirl books debuting this month, both selling just out of the 100K range. We’ve got Batgirl and the Birds of Prey at #17 with 99K in sales, and Batgirl three spots below selling 96K. Very healthy sales given what this character was doing a few months back, and the fact that BOP lands higher comes back to what I was saying – concepts that have been gone for a while are being rewarded upon their return.

Glenn: Barbara has had a very strong last few years. First Gail launched the book with the new 52 and made it the best selling Batgirl book in years and then following that, the Burnside era got all sorta of acclaim and a steady sales success. It seems that the combination of good reviews and name recognition has followed the character to Rebirth. It seems that DC has a lot of faith in the characters drawing power given that she’s named as part of the Birds Of Pray title akin to the says of ‘Batman and the Outsiders.’ You’re luring people with a name they know.

Ray: The rest of the top 20 is entirely Rebirth titles finding very healthy levels. Titans finds its first proper issue selling 102K at #14, no doubt boosted by the fact that it’s now one of the main staging grounds for the fallout of Rebirth. Given that the whole “Reunion Titans” concept has struggled ever since Winick first put it together years ago, DC has to be happy to finally have a hit with this team.

Beyond that, Superman, Flash, Wonder Woman, and Detective Comics all follow similar patterns, with the first issue of the month selling a bit over 100K, and the latter issue dropping anywhere from 6K-10K. These books are all clearly very healthy and DC has to be thrilled here. So far there’s no noticeable pattern about Wonder Woman’s two different stories and their sales, but if one emerges we’ll see it in the coming months.

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Glenn: Titans is a massive debut especially when you compare it to its predecessor which only launched a few months ago. If the Teen Titans book can launch strong in a few months then that would be quite a turnaround on a franchise that has been struggling for close to a decade.
I’m really interested to sales on Wonder Woman differ in the coming months between the odd and even numbered issues. They’re essentially two different titles operating under one with the same writer. If one story line is more popular than the other we could see a very unusual trend of one issue being high and the other being low then the same again and again.

Ray: We finally get a Marvel book with Ol’ reliable Star Wars at #23, selling just over 90K. That’s a 6K drop from last month, so this book surprisingly still hasn’t found its level.

Glenn: At first glance, Star Wars at 23 may raise some alarms but its become an incredibly high performing sales success. It doesn’t seem to want to budge much at this point and that is a brilliant result. The fact that its achieved this success and is number 23 just underscores again how amazingly well Rebirth has landed.

Ray: Red Hood and the Outlaws gets yet another relaunch. This wasn’t a title anyone was clamoring to see included in the Rebirth lineup – and yet it still did 88K, an incredibly strong number for this book. And the issue was received better than expected as well. Could be a new lease on life for this title.

Glenn: Having a bat character will always help. I’m wondering if interest will hold in this book once Jason’s new team makes its debut. If it can even land anywhere between 40-50k I’m sure DC would be thrilled.

Ray: Amazing Spider-Man gets a nice boost to 87K this month, a rare spot of good news for Marvel. I believe this was the MJ Iron Spider issue, which probably helped things, and with Dead No More around the corner, numbers should remain strong.

Glenn: I predict that Amazing and Star Wars will be Marvel’s bread and butter until we finish 2016. They’ll be the titles that give them a fighting chance outside of major launches or whatnot. What Marvel needs quickly is high selling books that stay high selling. Dan Slott often jests he will never leave Amazing and considering how successful his run has been and how steady it sells, I don’t see why Marvel would want him to go. It’ll be interesting how the fact that Dead No More is a separate mini will effect the main book…if at all.

Ray: Han Solo and Darth Vader continue to deliver decent numbers for Marvel, with sales of 83K and 77K respectively. Of course, neither of these titles will be around in a few months, which has to worry them.

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Glenn: I’m sure Marvel has more Star Wars books in the pipeline. They just need to start delving into the obscure character database. Who wants to see a book starring the Rancor?! Seriously I’d be amazed if we don’t get another Star Wars book and the inevitable Darth Maul mini/ongoing will be a huge hit.

Ray: One title’s performance that interests me a lot is Action Comics. This was one of the lower-selling Rebirth books last month, but the two issues were ordered at essentially the same level. This issue, the first issue of the month goes UP 8K in sales from those issues! Then the second sinks to around the same level as last month. I don’t think retailers really knew how to order this book, but it seems like it’s going to wind up healthy just like Superman.

Glenn: Action is selling nearly double what it was and is now remaining there steady. Its an astonishing turnaround in a short space of time, I’m sure that DC is very pleased.

Ray: Green Lanterns and Green Arrow continue to find their levels, a bit lower than the other Rebirth titles. This month, GLs has two issues at 82K and 78K, while Green Arrow lands two with sales of 72K. While the overall trends here aren’t clear, these are still miles above where these books would have been before Rebirth.

Glenn: Green Arrow actually saw an increase in sales from issue 3 from 2. This is one title I’ve seen people have been praising a lot online so perhaps good word of mouth is causing a slight uptick? Might be just a blip but like you say, both titles are miles ahead of where they were and have plenty of rope to fall.

Ray: John Constantine’s last title, Constantine: The Hellblazer, struggled from minute one and limped to the finish line with terrible sales despite critical acclaim. So it’s a real testament to Rebirth lifting all boats that his Rebirth issue lands sales of 76K at #31, just above Image megahit Walking Dead. Will these sales last? I’m dubious when it comes to Constantine’s mainstream appeal, but DC just got more eyes on his comic than he’s ever had before.

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Glenn: Constantine is one of DC’s projects they’ve been trying to get working since they moved him from Vertigo. This is a fantastic launch and it’ll be interesting if it can hold. If it lands around 35k-40k that would be outselling a lot of higher profile Marvel characters.

Ray: Black Panther continues to hold incredibly well, selling 72K (down from 75K last month) as it remains one of Marvel’s few bright spots at the moment. The writer has recently committed to a longer stay on the title, so they have to be very happy there.

Glenn: Everything is working right for Black Panther and Marvel will want to keep it that way. They’ll want to keep the book stable as long as they can so when/if the writer leaves, the title has a strong enough audience to stick with it.

Ray: Archie has another strong debut with Adam Hughes’ Betty and Veronica landing 70K in sales at #37. However, this title had over 25 variant covers and didn’t get nearly the critical acclaim of the previous Archie launches, so I expect to see the sales sink fast here.

Glenn: I’m not sure if B and V will stay on schedule which will hurt its chances too. This is the first book that was a part of Archie’s controversial ‘Kickstarter line’ but it doesn’t seem to have made much of a difference. The Archie line seems to still be benefiting hugely from the reboot from nearly a year ago.

Ray: The one Rebirth title showing signs of trouble so far is Aquaman, which is already under the 70K range with two issues at #38 and #39. Strong numbers for an Aquaman title right now, of course, but where will these numbers be in six month’s time? It doesn’t help that the run so far hasn’t been very acclaimed, rehashing a lot of classic Aquaman concepts and disregarding a lot of what Abnett was exploring in his arc prior to Rebirth.

Glenn: I think Aquaman is much like Fantastic Four at Marvel, no matter what DC throws its way, it struggles. Its doing very well at the moment but DC will have to be conservative about its expectations for the book, they can’t all be mega hits after all.

Ray: The Hydra Cap boost appears to have arrived, with Captain America: Steve Rogers holding on to 65K in sales at #40. That’s roughly even with last month, and it’s also a good 39 slots and double the sales above Captain America: Sam Wilson – which had the Civil War II branding this month! I don’t know what Marvel plans to do with all of this, but this franchise continues to be a giant train wreck for them.

Glenn: I’m still sure Marvel expected more out of Captain America’s apparent heel turn but 65k is a solid upper middle tier seller for them these days. Hopefully any ill feeling they garnered from the stunt will dissipate and people will stay with the book.

Ray: As we exit the top-tier books and head to business as usual, we have a new Deadpool #1! Deadpool and the Mercs for Money lands at #41 with sales of 65K. I’m kind of shocked its so low, given that the original mini sold six figures. Maybe because the comic just continued from the end of the mini into the ongoing, retailers ordered it like the next issue? Either way, Marvel marketing may have missed the boat here – Deadpool is usually good for absurd numbers.

Glenn: Could this be the first sign of the renumbering trick no longer paying off for Marvel? They’ve said many times that they don’t see a point in traditional numbering so perhaps Retailers are reacting that way too. If the company is saying ‘well in reality number 1 doesn’t really mean much’ then its hard to get people interested. It could also just be an over saturation of Deadpool…expensive Deadpool at that. Perhaps retailers are preferring to save their penny’s for all those 9.99 issues of the comic Marvel keep doing.

That being said, the new Deadpool launch proceeds both the main Deadpool book at 42 with sales of just over 62k and Spider-Man/Deadpool at 43 which sells a little less over 62k. Maybe this is just the Deadpool section of the charts? Chimichangas for all!

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Ray: Deadpool has really turned into his own franchise for Marvel, with three titles all selling at very impressive numbers and miniseries doing decently well when they show up. I’m sure there’ll be a few more titles starring the Merc with a Mouth soon enough. Can a Deadpool/Gwenpool team-up book be far behind?

Glenn: The second issue of Spider-Man: Civil War II performs admirably with sales just over 52k. Pretty standard for a Spider-Man tie in mini these days and much better than most of the other Civil War tie in minis…or ongoings for that matter.

Ray: Yeah, it’s not a big surprise that Amazing Spider-Man’s tie-in is doing the best of all the CWII tie-ins, given how popular the character is. Like you said, it’s standard numbers for a Spider-man mini, and the CWII tie-ins here are actually pretty tentative – it more deals with the character of Clash than the actual event. It’s also written by the frequent co-writer on the main ASM title, so that probably helps the sales too.

Glenn: Yeah, this is labeled as a Civil War Tie-in but its pretty much a follow up to Dan Slott’s Learning To Crawl mini from a few years back which was a strong seller. I’m actually surprised this subplot involving Clash isn’t being followed up by Slott himself but maybe his 12,567,768th subplot was one too many.

Deadpool pops up again with his fight with Gambit at 48 with sales just under 50k. Pretty below average for a Deadpool mini but it could be worse. I’d say that Marvel would be better releasing more Deadpool solo mini’s than tying him with characters who are well past their peak popularity.

At 52 is the Force Awakens tie in at just over 49.4k on its second issue. Well below the other Star Wars books but a fantastic number for a movie tie in that adapts something literally everyone and their dog saw. To put it into perspective the comic prelude to the upcoming Doctor Strange movie sold just over 21k at 108 and that has completely new story that no one has seen yet. For a movie tie in that’s still very good but Force Awakens continues to have that magic touch.

Ray: Coming soon – Star Wars: Rancor! But yeah, for a straight adaptation, this is amazingly good sales. And that Doctor Strange prequel, interestingly enough, had some well-known characters making their MCU debuts. Marvel maybe should have hyped that one up a bit more.

Glenn: I don’t think many more people would have been interested regardless. When something is a precursor or side story or epilogue to something that is prominently to tie in with something associated with another media. This is why TV/video game and movie tie ins always struggle. Apart from Star Wars, curse Star Wars for ruining my point.

A surprisingly high launch for Civil War II: Kingpin. Not quite a launch on par with the mini’s the first Civil War produced but very good for a book starring the Spider-Man/Daredevil villain. The last time Kingpin had a comic it was nearly 10 years ago and was around 15k or so in sales. We know that this book is essentially continuing in a few months with a proper number 1 so we’ll see if it can do better.

Ray: Marvel seems to have a surprising amount of faith in Kingpin, as an ongoing series has already been announced spinning out of this by the same writer. These numbers are good for a Kingpin series, but I don’t know what it’ll look like as it goes on. The CWII branding doesn’t seem to matter much overall, but probably helped to give this book a bigger launch platform.

Glenn: Maybe they’re expecting an increase in interest in the character following Netflix’s Daredevil? Time will tell if its a worthwhile gamble. Its hard to gage what ‘good’ sales would be considered for a Kingpin book long term. Maybe somewhere between 25-30k? Its not impossible…

Selling under 44k is DC’s newest Hanna Barbera overhaul in the Flintstones. Given how iconic the characters involved are, I might have expected more but as we said with Walking Doo and Mad Races, it all depends what DC is expecting here. If it can land around 20-25k they’ll probably be happy enough as it’ll be doing better than what is remaining of the Vertigo line (more on that later).

Ray: By comparison, Flintstones sold about 4K under the first issue of Future Quest, and 10K above the first issue of Wacky Raceland. So by that standard, Flintstones looks pretty healthy. Only the Jim Lee-affiliated Scooby Apocalypse debuted on a higher level. We’ll see how it holds, but it seems to have been received pretty well.

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Glenn: The newest Amazing Spider-Man ‘point’ mini ends with sales just under 40k. This was such a weird mini so this is a very solid end number, I’d say we’ll see more of these yet. Hopefully they’ll be a lot more like Learning To Crawl or Spiral than whatever this was.

Ray: It feels like anything with Spider-Man on the title has a pretty solid floor, and even though no one was talking about this weird Daredevil spin-off disguised as a Spider-man story, it still got the sales. I hope this doesn’t encourage Marvel to do more random minis.

Glenn: Second issue of Civil War II: Choosing Sides sells a shade over 38,5k at 67. That’s alright for an anthology starring side characters to the event but again, the sales power you would expect from Civil War just isn’t here. The sales benefit of what was hyped as a mega event seem to be middling at best. The third issue also is not far down at 71 with sales of 24.6k so at least its pretty stable.

Ray: These tie-in anthologies always do decently, but yeah, the returns are diminishing by the issue. There’s a third issue this month as well, losing another 4K in sales. As a whole, there seems to be very little interest in this event and its tie-ins.

Glenn: If only Ulysses had seen this one coming. There’s now reports of delays which could cause a delay across the line similar to last years Secret Wars and of course, Civil War classic. The delays on the original book didn’t hurt the power of that but I have a feeling it’ll be a different story this time around.

Paper Girls with no events or Reboots or whatnot manages to sell over 35k at 69,outselling a ton of Marvel books. Fear the power of Brian K. Vaugn.

The next Image book is Snotgirl which launches at over 34k at 72. I’m not sure what this book is about and hope its not as gross as it sounds. Its written by indie superstar Bryan Lee O’Mally so this is the level I would expect from a new Image book with a well known creator.

Ray: Snotgirl launched with mixed reviews, so I’m not sure how well it’ll hold, but this is definitely a good debut. It’s as gross – and weirder – than you imagine.

Glenn: IDW resurrects ROM: The Space Knight at 75 with sales over 33k. This is a great launch for a character who is something of a cult favorite and hasn’t been seen in a long time. I couldn’t imagine a relaunch at his formal home of Marvel doing much better so fans of the space knight can rejoice! I’m not sure if there is an arrangement in place with the family of ROM creator Bill Mantlo given his circumstances but I certainty hope so.

Ray: Spider-Gwen’s down to 35K, sadly, maybe the biggest example of a title suffering from Marvel’s dependence on relaunches and crossovers. This book was a genuine phenomenon. It doesn’t look like one now. And it’s only four issues above its ersatz spin-off, Gwenpool.

Glenn: Spider-Gwen is holding steady at least but yes, Marvel lost a lot of ground on this book following Secret Wars. Its still performing a lot of higher profile books and Civil War II tie-ins though. The book will likely remain around this level with the occasional bump depending on the story, I’m sure the upcoming Gwenom story will see a slight increase.

Ray: Moon Knight is out of the three month buffer zone, and it keeps a very impressive level of 40K. It seems the buzz for this book is genuine, and Marvel finally has a hit on their hands with this character. Jeff Lemire is riding a great hot streak on most of his books (more on him later).

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Glenn: They’ve tried a few things with Moon Knight and this seems to have worked. Hopefully now that its working Marvel will LEAVE IT ALONE. No relaunches, no switching creators, just let it run its course.

Ray: Scooby Apocalypse has roughly fallen to the level of Future Quest, which shipped two issues this month. That’s impressive for Future Quest, which seems to be getting the most good buzz of the three by a mile. They’re all in the mid-20K range, which is pretty impressive for this line as they settle down. Wacky Raceland, though, is down to only 18K with issue #2, and that book is likely DOA.

Glenn: Wacky Raceland was the one that they changed the most and was the most far removed from its source material (and Scooby Doo is a cyborg in his book). We know we’re getting a spin off starring Dastardly and Mutley but I’m sure thats more to the sales that Garth Ennis can bring to well…anything than how this book has performed. I would expect Future’s Quest to be brought back in some form once it ends but I don’t like Wacky Racelands chances quite as much.

Ray: Flash, Batman, Titans, and Wonder Woman all have fairly impressive reorders for their first or Rebirth issues, all adding roughly another 20K to their already massive numbers. More good news for Rebirth on an amazing month.

Glenn: Its crazy to see reorders this high. Usually high profile reorders make the top 200 at most but here they are around the 90’s. We talked a lot about Rebirth issues being outsold by number 1’s and this is likely the correction on that previous month trend.

Ray: For the third month in a row, Captain America: Steve Rogers #1 charts again, this time with about 27K in reorders. The delay is odd, but it seems like Marvel might have gotten their buzz for this story after it was revealed things weren’t what they look like. Botched roll-out that lost them a lot of good will, but now it’s paying off a bit.

Glenn: Better late than never on Captain America, its still not exactly burning up the charts but is doing better than some of Marvel’s books. When we see see Daredevil join the hand then…oh wait…well when we see Iron Man turn evil…oh wait…well we’ll know one way or another what lessons Marvel takes away from what happened when Steve Rogers launched.

Ray: It’s a rough month for Marvel’s recent push for female-led books. Ms. Marvel, one of their most buzzed-about characters, is down to 28K despite a Civil War tie-in. Captain Marvel and A-Force both sell about 23K. More relaunches a-coming? Although it’s worth noting that apparently Ms. Marvel does very well in digital, so I’m sure the sales are healthier than they look.

Glenn: Ms Marvel seems to have a lot of love from outside traditional comic markets so I’m sure that book will be fine, the character has caught on like no one’s business. I’m sure that Marvel will keep publishing it out of fear of a giant internet build robotic Godzilla otherwise. I’d say that Ms. Marvel will likely get yet another relaunch before so long. Given how popular the character is, I expect Marvel to introduce her into other media in one form or another so they’ll likely relaunch then.

Ray: Speaking of buzz-worthy female-led titles, Valiant relaunches Faith as an ongoing, and it gets about 22K worth of sales at 103. I think this is roughly what the previous miniseries launched at, and that ended at 12K. Not bad sales for Valiant by a long shot, but this seems like it’ll remain a mid-level hit rather than the smash they were hoping for given the hype.

Glenn: Faith has been brought to you by the power of the internet. It’ll probably do around the same and/or slightly better than Valients other books. They may not be hitting sales records but Valient seems to be very satisfied with the slice of the pie they’ve managed to get. As long as Faith has a small but dedicated fan base both her and her title will be around for a while.

Ray: Maybe the most buzzed-about Dark Horse release in years, the much-anticipated Black Hammer by Jeff Lemire and Dean Ormstrom lands with just under 20K sales at 117. This is amazing numbers for a Dark Horse book – the top-selling Dark Horse book of the month, ahead of a number major franchise #1s – but given the insane creative reception this book got, I can’t help but wonder what these numbers would have looked like at Image. Remember, Lemire got Descender to a top ten debut.

Glenn: A couple of ways to look at Black Hammer. Its a great number compared to how Dark Horse has been doing but yeah, at Image this likely would have sold anywhere between 20-60k more depending on various things. Its a book a lot of people are talking about so I think it’ll find its level super fast and become a very healthy addition to Dark Horse’s library when its collected.

Ray: In what must be the second oddest title of the month behind Snotgirl, Rick and Morty: Little Poopy Superstar has a strong debut at 130 with sales of 17K. ‘kay then.

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Glenn: Rick and Morty seems to have a serious cult following. That’s not a bad number for a tie in to an adult cartoon and will probably go down to around 9-11k next month which is enough to keep it around.

Ray: Dark Horse mashed up three different franchises with Predator vs. Judge Dredd vs. Aliens, and they still couldn’t beat Black Hammer! 17K sales isn’t too bad for a crossover of three past-their-prime franchises, though. This is Dark Horse’s second entry on the charts, at #131.

 

Ray: More reorders, for Superman, Green Arrow, Flash #1, Green Lanterns, and Aquaman all getting about 15K additional sales. Icing on the cake.

Glenn: Cake and late night pizzas served by Johns and Snyder no less.

Ray: It didn’t have any big names attached, so Image’s Horizon – a sci-fi tale about alien spies trying to prevent a human invasion – getting 15K sales at #153 isn’t bad at all. It should stay healthy with these debut numbers.

Glenn: Horizon sounded like a good concept so the interest here is based around how good it sounds which is something that is encouraging to see. It’ll probably join the likes of Nailbiter and Beauty around the 8k range which seems to be a healthy level for most Image books that don’t involve superstars upon launch.

Ray: I’m not bitter at all that I didn’t get in! But I have to say I’m a bit surprised that the Millarworld Annual was only able to get just under 15K sales at #156. This was a mash-up of all of Millar’s most popular properties, but he had no actual involvement in the writing, so that probably played a role.

Glenn: I actually thought the Millarworld annual did very well considering this was something that was done by all unknown creators. For fans of Miller’s various works it was worth checking up but if you were only a fan of one or two, you may have skipped it. I think it was a worthwhile experiment and hopefully it’ll lead to some of the new voices debuting in the title getting more work elsewhere. I will also note that I am not bitter. I have a collection of voodoo dolls that helps me cope.

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Ray: A new comic book based on Disney’s Frozen by Joe Books manages to get 13K sales at #162. This property is obviously a full-on sensation, so I’m not surprised it had a very strong debut for a company we don’t see on this chart often. We’ll talk more about this company later, but this is an unusual number for them.

Glenn: I’m surprised that Marvel didn’t want in on a Frozen tie in but they may not get to make that decision. Frozen fever is still in abounds everywhere and its likely this book will do very well outside the direct market. I’m sure that Joe’s books had felt like they’d won the lottery when they got the nod to publish what is something that is guaranteed to make them money.

Ray: I believe Joe Books still has the license for all Disney animated properties, and they don’t really fit with Marvel’s branding, so they probably don’t care about getting them back. I believe the company usually sells much more in collected editions, so these numbers are especially impressive.

Glenn: Did they get that licence from Boom then? I remember Boom published a lot of Pixar stuff a while back. It’s sometimes hard to keep track of who can publish what until we all just realize its mostly Titan.

Ray: From what I’ve observed, Frozen has a VERY active teen and adult fanbase, unlike Finding Dory. That crossover appeal likely helped it to make an impact in the direct market. It really is the biggest killer app Disney has ever had in terms of cross-generational appeal and marketing. Given that, I don’t think PotC will do as well, especially with the franchise’s PR problems now, but it might appeal a little more to direct market readers than Finding Dory.

Glenn: Just above that at 161 is Batman 66 meets Steed and Mrs Peel which sells just under 14k. Not a terrible number for two 60’s shows, one of which hasn’t had much prominence in decades. I’m sure DC would have loved to called this one Batman 66 meets The Avenger’s but those Disney lawyers can make a cowardly and suspicious lot of anyone.

Ray: Definitely diminishing returns for Batman ’66 from the main series and the recent Man From UNCLE crossover, but like you said, one half of this property really doesn’t have any presence in the US anymore. In addition, the regular Batman ’66 writer isn’t on this miniseries, so that may have caused a drop as well. Still, decent numbers for what it is.

Glenn: Another debut from Dark Horse in Conan The Slayer which sells just over 13.3k. Conan has been a Dark Horse main stray for a few years now. Its not a terrible launch and will likely perform around 6-8k when it settles which is where the Conan titles usually occupy. Dark Horse is still showing a lot of care and attention to the licenced properties they have managed to keep a hold of which is something they need to do as those books are their bread and butter these days.

Ray: Conan is another member of Dark Horse’s bread-and-butter franchises, and they give him regular relaunches. This isn’t a bad number for the character, and it was probably helped by having Cullen Bunn on board – that guy is pretty much everywhere, and he’s become one of Dark Horse’s stars in recent years.

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Glenn: Bunn really is everywhere, I keep expecting some sort of meme like ‘Cullen Bunn is currently writing a script for his 12th comic this month and has time to make dinner, what are YOU doing today?’ At least despite their position, Dark Horse is able to secure some prominent names for both licenced and creator owned comics.

Another Rebirth reorder for Action comics this time 176 with sales just over 12k. This tells me that like we speculated this month and last that Action’s initial sales where right on the money where retailers are catching up for books they didn’t expect the demand for…even though they still ordered plenty of those.

Ray: Action is definitely a title where retailers didn’t know what to do with it yet. I will say this, though – if this is the actual level of Action Comics, that is unbelievably good news for the line as a whole.

Glenn: The Hunt is another new launch from Image, specifically their Shadowline publishing arm which starts off with sales over 12k at 176. The Shadowline book tend to be at the lower end of Image’s publishing line, sales wise. Former books from the line like Peter Panzerfaust and Five Weapons have either vanished or been cancelled due to low sales. If you were a fan of the Hunt, try to share the word for it because it will need the support to survive.

Note: Since typing this, Panzerfaust has reappeared in the latest Image solicitations.

Below that is Throwaways which isn’t a Shadowline book but a full mainline Image book selling also around the 12k mark. The description of the book doesn’t grab me and didn’t seem to do so for retailers either. This one will need to find its audience fast or it may not be around long.

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Ray: The Hunt and Throwaways debuted with little fanfare, and neither had any big names attached. The Hunt is by a near-unknown, and Throwaways is by the writer of Vertigo book Coffin Hill. Given that, the fact that The Hunt won out is pretty impressive. It didn’t have to do with initial orders, but Throwaways has gotten some pretty rough reviews, so it might struggle as issue go on.

Glenn: Boom launches another all-ages book but this is another other media tie in with Adventure Time. This sells just over 11,9k at 179. I’ll admit I’m not entirely sure what Adventure Time is but I know its super popular so this title will make its money outside the direct market I’m sure. Probably going to end up to be a pretty standard selling media tie in book released by a smaller press company.

Ray: Adventure Time seems to do pretty well overall for Boom, since they have a lot of spin-offs for that. In general, they seem to have formed a little niche for themselves a home for Cartoon Network spin-offs.

Glenn: Another book in the same genre is a book starring the Powerpuff girls who I absolutely know about. They launch at sales over 11.8k at 181. See pretty much the comments above but replace Boom with IDW, I don’t think its coincidence these two books were practically identical in performance.

Ray: Powerpuff Girls just relaunched a new cartoon, but the show’s heyday is far behind it. This was probably mostly nostalgia buys, but that’s not terrible numbers for an IDW debut.

Glenn: There’s a Street Fighter tie in at 183 with sales sales over 11k. It is what it is, a tie in to a video game no matter how popular is always going to perform around this level or worse.

In what I think should be seen as a little bit of a let down is the first issue of Doctor Who: Supremacy Of The Cybermen. This is the mini launched on ‘Doctor Who day’ which last year saw the publishing of the Four Doctor’s weekly which performed a lot better than this titles 11k at 184. They did lose writer Paul Cornell from last year but gained the use of the shows second most iconic villains in another multi-doctor adventure. I guess last year it was a novelty but people don’t see it as special if it happens every year.
Ray: Cornell is a pretty big name, so I would think losing him would cause a drop. Still, this is Titan’s highest book on the charts this month by a good 4K, so I imagine they’re still pretty happy with the numbers. The overall level for the company is still pretty low.

Glenn: I’m just thinking that with the Cybermen’s involvement, it might have gathered more interest. The comics don’t really use them or the Daleks very often, likely due to licencing issues so I thought this would have created a bigger number since they were the villains of the much better selling Who/Next Gen crossover a while back.

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Perhaps releasing almost a year too early is Boom’s Kong Of Skull Island which sells over 10.8k at 187. The latest movie starring the Empire State climbing gorilla is still a long way off so interest was probably minimal here. At least when the movie lands the trade will be there.

Ray: Yeah, definitely too early for Kong, and the actual series is weird, focusing on a race of Kongs sharing an island with an ancient tribe. Plus, it occurs to me that it’s a missed opportunity to have this title at Boom – Kong shares a cinematic universe with Godzilla now, and IDW would seem to be the natural home as a result. Well, inter-company crossovers are becoming more and more common!

Glenn: Aren’t they doing a Kong vs Godzilla movie if Skull Island does well? Maybe they don’t want to have the latest reboots of both long standing properties to go head to head in the comics world first but it may definitely be something that Boom and IDW get together to do down the road.

Ray: Welp, it’s the end of an era for Vertigo, as the last two titles dip under 10K. Lucifer and Astro City both sell about 9900 copies at 191/192. Grim to say the least. Even grimmer – only two other Vertigo titles, Clean Room and The Sheriff of Babylon, even chart this month, with both selling between 6K and 5.5K. What more can be said?

Glenn: I’m hoping Williamson’s upcoming book fares well for them, his Image stuff does around 8-9k and he has a much higher profile now. Given the weak state of Vertigo’s place in the market it’ll be the hit they desperately need. Things will improve when Fables will return but that will only be likely good for 12-10k long terms. When we see Sheriff and Clean Room go out of the charts we’ll be soon not talking about Vertigo at all instead of just delivering bad news.

Ray: At the bottom of the top 200, we have two new #1s. Mechanism from Top Cow/Image is a futuristic writer/artist book, while Bounty from Dark Horse is a space-faring bounty hunter comedy from the creator of Rat Queens. Both of these sell about 9.2 K and probably were hoping for more, although Mechanism debuted with little hype and Bounty was promoted much more heavily. The Dark Horse effect strikes again.

Glenn: Top Cow is another publishing line Image has that delivers at best, mixed results. Their best known franchise they have is well past its peak popularity so its hard for them to generate any new launch excitement.

Dark Horse books need a top level name to even deliver 20k. Their position is weak at the moment and there seems to be no sign of change on the Horizon. All they can do is keep publishing the books that get them the acclaim they deserve and hope something catches on.

Ray: Just a little lower, with sales of 8.9K at 206, is Black Mask’s latest debut, Kim and Kim. Definitely a bit more muted than their last debut, but this company is slowly but surely establishing a name for themselves as the home for edgy crime stories.

Glenn: Given how small Black Mask is, its amazing what they’ve been able to produce so far. There’s a lot of hype around the upcoming ‘Black’ mini which may be the thing that really gets them a seat at the big table and major attention that the rest of their books can ride off.

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Ray: Speaking of Josh Williamson’s creator-owned books, both Birthright and Nailbiter are hanging around the 8K level. Not great, and they definitely deserve more, but this is a safe level for a long-running Image book.

Glenn: Like I said earlier, I wouldn’t be surprised if Williamson’s turn on Flash will probably get new eyes on these books. It wasn’t all the time that Walking Dead was a super sales hit after all, once upon a time it was down at this end of the charts.

Ray: A bunch of other DC books, including Green Arrow: Rebirth, Aquaman #1, and issues of Detective and Action all get about 10K-7K in reorders as well. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if every issue from the first month of Rebirth charted again this month. When have we ever seen that?

Glenn: I don’t think we have. The excitement about Rebirth has been something else and shows that a relaunch can still have a very positive effect, as long as you build and market right and don’t do it every year or so.

Ray: Hey, remember Groo? Sergio Aragones’ cult barbarian hero is still around, and he’s good for 7K in sales for Dark Horse at #242. I imagine by now retailers know exactly who wants a Groo book, so these numbers should hold pretty well.

Glenn: I wonder how many retailers are tempted to put a T on the end of Groo’s name and see if it helps :). Its an obscure property so yeah sure, this number is fine and will likely hold steady.

Ray: Dynamite crosses over two of their old-school franchises with Lone Ranger/Green Hornet, to the tune of 6.4K sales. This is definitely not a Batman crossover with these numbers, but Dynamite seems to be determined to make these pulp heroes work.

Glenn: The Pulp Heroes have been around as long or longer than some of the industry’s top superheroes and the test of time is the longest of all. These seems to be a small but dedicated fan base out there but the numbers here are likely inflated by Dynamites usual number of multiple variants.

Ray: Aftershock is attracting some seriously big names to their books, including Mark Waid for the new title Captain Kid. They seem to have trouble getting traction in the market, though, as even one of the biggest names in comics was only able to pull 6.1K for this book at #257. I think this is probably just most people not even knowing the company yet, honestly.

Glenn: This is definitely a sign of how Aftershock is known over who they have because as you said, the names they are getting is really impressive. It may take time but they could be ones to watch. It wouldn’t take much for them to start out performing Dark Horse if they manage to hold the fort and gain an audience.

Ray: Making those Frozen numbers even more impressive, Joe Comics has another #1 this month, a spin-off from Finding Dory, which came out just a month earlier and broke the all-time record for an animated movie in the US. Despite that, it was only able to pull just under 6K in direct market sales, landing at #261. Would have expected more, given the recent hype for the movie. We’ll see how the Pirates of the Caribbean book does in August.

Glenn: That figure doesn’t make any sense. Maybe because this is seen of a ‘kids’ book which always tend to sell lower but what is more of a kids book than Frozen? Finding Dory was massive so you would have thought that retailers would have ordered a little more just on the off chance an adult picked it up on a whim for their kid who they are looking to brainwas…erm encourage to read comics. 10 years ago I would expect big things from a Pirates comic but not so much now but you never know.

Ray: Interestingly, Disney properties are still all over the map, as IDW has the rights to the classic Mickey Mouse and friends characters, with a new title called “Mickey Mouse Shorts Season 1” debuting right under Finding Dory with 5.9K. Very old-school book, so these numbers aren’t surprising.

Glenn: These are for really big Disney fans so its probably to be packaged for sale in the multitude of Disney stores so I doubt the company is concerned, this is just another thing that happens to have Mickey on it.

Ray: I just looked it up and it seems Joe Books was founded by a former Boom Executive, essentially for the purposes of publishing books based on Disney animated properties. Interesting. Some weird things went on there with Boom’s licenses.

Glenn: I just have this image in my mind of him heading out the Boom door with a briefcase stuffed with characters. ‘Hey Mike, do I hear ‘Let It Go’ playing from your briefcase?’

Ray: Newbie publisher Lion Forge gets an entry on the charts with the adaptation of the popular Netflix cartoon Voltron, which pulls 5.3K at #289. The property probably would have done more at another company, but with so many companies trying to get a piece of the pie lately, this has to be considered a win for Lion Forge.

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Glenn: Certainty a big deal for such a small company! I’m sure they weren’t the only interested parties so the fact that they got it and got it to chart is probably a big deal to them. Hopefully we’ll see more of them in the months to come.
The rest of the charts is the usual collection of reprints/media tie ins and whatnot with nothing really sticking out. Number 300 is the second issue of IDW’s adaption of little known movie Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas which just sells over 5k. We won’t see it next month of course but the fact that its being ordered at a 4 digit number has to count for something, I doubt IDW expected much more.

Next month sees the Rebirth madness continue with the debuts of Supergirl, Blue Beetle, Deathstroke, Harley Quinn and more.

It also sees the launch of a new Batman title that is due to be one to smash everyone into paste and run home crying to their moms in despair. This is of course All Star Batman which at the moment is like DC taking its current advantage in a battle and deciding now is the time to unleash their weapon of mass destruction.

Marvel continues to slough through Civil War II with a few mini’s launching. I’ll be interested in particular in how ‘The Fallen‘ performs. A lot of retailers expressed a lot of outrage about Marvel keeping the creative team and content a secret well past ordering cut offs. This leaves retailers who live and die on how many copies they think they can sell to play a guessing game which is a risky move at the best of times.

Not much is springing to mind from the indie side of things but I somethings get mixed up debuting when and where there because I have the attention span of a goldfi…hey look a bear!!!!

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Ray: For DC next month, the real question is which debut comes in second. We know All-Star Batman will come in at #1, maybe with a 100K lead over the second highest book. From there, we’ve got Suicide Squad #1 featuring Jim Lee art on half the book, Supergirl making her return to solo comics with lots of hype and a TV series behind her, and Harley Quinn resuming business as usual, which is always good for strong numbers. Deathstroke and Blue Beetle won’t get the same numbers, but if they can land around the same level of Red Hood or Hellblazer from this month, that should be considered a win for these properties. We should see DC increase their lead overall, because…

Marvel in August is going to be a disaster. Civil War II is on a skip month, leaving them without their only top-selling book at the moment. Their headliners this month are probably The Fallen and The Accused, both of which were solicited without any information, even on creative team. Retailers had to order blind, and that’ll hurt these books. I expect the top-selling Marvel book of the month to be the Dead No More prequel issue of Amazing Spider-Man, which should increase slightly from this month, enough to pass Star Wars. But given that, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Marvel shut out of the top 20.

There’s a few notable indie launches of the month. The headliners, undoubtedly, are a pair of Image launches from their biggest names – Kill or Be Killed, from the iconic Brubaker/Philipps pairing, and The Black Monday Murders from Jonathan Hickman and Tomm Coker. I expect both will land in the top 50 or so. Other Image books, including horror mystery Demonic and fantasy epic Lake of Fire, should have lower-key debuts.

Dark Horse brings its latest Brian Wood comic with Briggs Land, a thriller set on a survivalist compound run by neo-Nazis, which should get them some decent buzz, but probably not enough to put it in the top 100. The most unpredictable debut of the month is from Boom, The Backstagers, a quirky comic focusing on a stage crew dealing with supernatural goings-on and written by Detective Comics writer James Tynion IV. I’m predicting this will break the record for Boom’s highest-debuting original property (IE, not Power Rangers) ever. There seems to be a ton of buzz for it.

Glenn: I did not know Civil War was on a skip month so yeah, having delivered a strong blow, its DC’s opportunity to go in for the kill. The remainder of 2016 may be all theirs.

We’ll just have to see in the months to come and we hope to see you all there with us!

See you soon

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By The Numbers: June 2016

Like in any industry, comic books and their companies listen most to one thing and that’s your money! What does your money tell them? What does it tell us as fans? What series do people say they adore but can’t seem to catch a break and what books to people hate that sell out? What are the trends? What looks good? What looks rough?

All these questions and more will be answered here, every month in ‘By The Numbers’ by comic writers, editors and fans, Glenn Matchett and Ray Goldfield.

Glenn Matchett is a comic writer and editor. He’s worked in the industry for 6 years but grew up reading comics. He is currently published with Outre Press, Nemeses Studios and Alterna! He eagerly awaits the arrival of his son next month (subject to change)

Ray Goldfield is a fan of comic books for going on 25 years, starting with the death of Superman. He is a writer and editor for Grayhaven Comics and is working on his first novel. Ray also does a weekly roundup of DC comic reviews for website Geekmom and they’re brilliantly entertaining. When asked if he played Pokemon Go, Ray voices concern they would start eating his library of comics.

We also do a podcast together with longtime buddy, Brandon James on iTunes with Rabbitt Stew or at the link here! Don’t ask, I didn’t pick the name. If you’d like to hear what me and Ray sound like, give it a listen!  We talk about this sales chart (among many, many other things here

Full top 300 for June available here!

Glenn:  Its June and another sales chart in what is quite possibly the craziest sales chart we’ve seen in quite some time.

For a long time, DC, the number two biggest company in comics has found it hard to get a win over the ever dominant Marvel.
In terms of Market share, they don’t quite manage it due to the sheer quantity of Marvel books released.  However, the actual numbers and placements in DC’s first Rebirth month tell a different story.
DC has 7 of the top ten, 17 of the top 25 and 30 of the top 50.  This gives them their most dominant month since…well the new 52 started.  While the relaunches at Marvel (with more to come…yay?) seem to be fizzling out due to their frequency, DC doing it after 5 years has seemingly so far paid off.  Next month will tell us more about how this all lands but DC should be proud of their performance this month.
Lets get into more detail but before we begin, one important thing to remember.  Every single Rebirth book and number 1 DC released was fully returnable to encourage more orders from stores.  To compensate for this obviously having a positive effect on the numbers that may be misleading, diamond automatically corrects the numbers we work with to present you this article.  Usually they adjust between 20-25% so these numbers presented for DC are actually a lot LOWER than what shops ordered.  Given how many reports all over there were on DC books selling out, there are probably a lot of books which sold a lot higher than even the numbers we’ll be quoting today with many a reorder to come.
Ray:  This is easily the kind of month we haven’t seen since the first few months of the New 52, so I think we can safely say this is a massive win for DC. And keep in mind – this is just the tip of the iceberg. They launched a lot of their top books this month, but far from all of them. This is only about a third of the main Rebirth line. Sure, there’ll be a few duds in the mix, but overall DC has to be feeling very encouraged by these numbers. An especially promising note for them? These numbers do not look inflated. Look at Detective Comics a little ways down – it shipped two issues this month, and only lost 2K in sales between them. With Marvel #1s, you often see them losing close to half their sales in the same month. That doesn’t seem to be happening here.
Glenn:  Marvel’s double shipping does seem to be counter productive where as, you said DC’s isn’t (perhaps being $1 cheaper helps).  I think again the important difference is timing.  Retailers inflate for issue one on Marvel books and then they usually go back to previous levels because the relaunches have been coming more frequently with the same names on the same titles with the same directions by and large.  With DC this is the first line wide relaunch in five years and is seeing most the line in new hands with a new line wide ‘back to basics and really sorry, don’t hate us anymore, pretty please with sugar on top’ approach.
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With so much success however, comes a small touch of defeat..in a manner of speaking.  Despite losing the top ten for the first time since the Star Wars launched (I think?  I don’t know, its your guys to read this stuff, we just write it) Marvel still takes the top spot.  After a FCBD issue and an issue 0, Civil War II finally gets going properly with issue 1 selling well over 381k.  A great success all told for the sequel to Marvel’s biggest event ever.  Not as much as the first issue of the first Civil War but still impressive.  However it seems that in the same month, the sweet victory of landing number one comes with its own bitter taste.  The second issue of the sequel to the biggest Marvel event ever lands at 5 with 148k.  So there’s a couple of ways to look at this, 148k number is still great, especially at the 4.99 (for 22 pages, yay) price point.  However its a sharp drop by over half IN THE SAME MONTH.  Seemingly retailers think that 233k of readers will come in for issue 1 and never return.  Its a great number but with the Civil War branding, you would have thought Marvel would have wanted this to only land at around 150k towards the end.  We’ve still got 5 issues to go so unless it stabilizes with issue 3 (which Marvel are hyping TO DEATH) we might be looking at an under performance if you compare this sequel with its predecessor.
Ray:  Yeah, Marvel successfully inflated those Civil War II #1 numbers pretty nicely, but the #2 numbers are frankly pretty grim. This is what I would have expected from a run-of-the-mill event like Fear Itself or Infinity, selling 150K or so by the second issue. This bodes ill for both the main event and the tie-ins. Also, worth noting – the first issue sold twice the numbers of the zero issue, which directly preceded it. The bizarre order of the story clearly threw retailers for a loop on how to order this, a phenomenon that we’re seeing with a lot of the Rebirth issues as well.
Glenn:  Again I’d expect a bump up for Civil War II 3 which Marvel have been hyping to tomorrow and back.
Next up is Batman 1, the new run by Tom King with sales of just over 280k.  The previous Batman run was an paralleled sales success and retailers clearly have a lot of faith in the title.  Having superstar artist David Finch on art is helpful but it seems that Batman sells itself due to the strong work the franchise has received for close to a decade.  Curiously the prelude to this book, Batman Rebirth sells one spot lower at 199k.  A lot of the Rebirth books did come across as ‘set up’ but I didn’t think there would be a big a gap as that.  The Rebirth issue was written by King and previous Batman scribe and current DC superstar, Scott Snyder so it seems under ordered.  Maybe retailers thought the real number ones would carry more weight to potential buyers?
Ray:  Clearly Batman is an amazing success, still riding high off the character’s popularity and the incredible momentum it has from the previous Snyder/Capullo run. With these first-issue numbers, I wouldn’t be surprised at all to see the series continue above 100K for quite some time! That being said, the Rebirth numbers are sort of odd. Most of the #1 issues outsold the Rebirth issues that preceded them, with a few exceptions. I think in the future, companies might be better off just launching with their new #1s and not getting fancy, because it stands the chance of confusing both retailers and customers.
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Glenn:  At number 4 is another Star Wars book from Marvel in the form of Han Solo which sells over 152.5k.  Its another Star Wars book that sells well and has one of the most iconic characters in the massive franchise at the helm so the strong launch is no surprise.  This is the only Marvel book not called Civil War II to sell over six figures this month for the record.
Ray:  I said from the start that a Han Solo miniseries was one of the biggest slam-dunks in Star Wars comics. This comic had a slightly lower-key creative team than I would have expected, bringing back Marjorie Liu after a long absence from the company, but it certainly didn’t affect sales. The plot, essentially a take on “Fast and the Furious” in space, likely attracted a lot of sales as well. This is one of the best debuts for a Star Wars mini in quite some time.
Glenn:  This might be my personal taste stepping in (in this article?  Never!) but Mark Brooks is a pretty big name.  He does covers a lot and hasn’t drawn interiors for years.  I would say his name drew some attention to the book.  Perhaps not as many as say John Cassidy on the main book but he definitely has his own fan base which is why Marvel throws a lot of cover work his way.
Next at 6 is the continuation of Dark Knight III: It doesn’t have a subtitle that I have to acknowledge.  There’s been some delays but it hasn’t slowed down this prestige format epic which sells near 140k.  This mini has been remarkably consistent at its price point after the usual issue 1 to 2 drop.  The branding of the Dark Knight Returns shows itself immediately on the next spot also with the prequel book the Last Crusade which sells at over 122k.  This is actually a dollar more than the regular DKIII mini so is really, really impressive.  Of course, it features super popular villain the Joker which helps but also a little taste of legend John Romita JR’s work on Batman which we’ll see later this year in All Star.  All in all, this revisit of Frank Miller’s classic is a very worthwhile endeavor for DC and will keep them in sales of trades for decades to come.
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Ray:  DKIII has been a huge success since it started, but I must say, I’m a bit taken aback by just how well this tie-in issue did. Not only did it beat all the Rebirth issues besides Batman, but it was a $6.99 book and still dominated in sales. Don’t get any ideas, Marvel! $4.99 for 22 pages is bad enough (and we’ll talk more about Marvel’s strange price points a little later on).
Glenn:  Last Crusade was pretty big though at least.  57 story pages (yup I just counted).
Next is Superman Rebirth 1 at 8 with sales of just over 118k.  Its been a long time since we’ve seen a Superman book at this level and sees the return of pre-New 52 (head…hurts) Superman to the role and the run of superstar writer Pete Tomasi start properly.  A lot of interest here obviously.  Superman also makes the top ten at number 10 with the first issue of the proper run selling just over 105k.  Not that much difference in the two and it’ll be curious how this performs from next issue on.  I think given how bumpy Superman was throughout the New 52 era, a lot of people aren’t sorry to see that version of the character to go.
Ray:  Both Superman and WW have been top-tier DC properties that struggled in sales for a long time. A lot of this was due to the previous runs that were not well-received for a variety of reasons, so I imagine DC is very happy to see these numbers. With Superman, though, the news is a bit mixed for the character as we’ll get to a bit later on.
Glenn:  Final book we haven’t talked about in the top ten which lands at 9 is the first issue (note: NOT the Rebirth issue) of Greg Rucka’s Wonder Woman which launches at over 107.7 k which is curiously higher than the launch of Superman’s main book (but not by much).  The return of Rucka at DC is surprising given that he previously left on bad terms with the company before.  However, he’s had some strong work at Marvel and Image, is known for writing strong female characters and has wrote Wonder Woman before.  All this amounts to a great launch to DC’s third most iconic character.   In issues to come, the alternate issues will almost have the feel of two books with one arc being set in the present and one arc being set in the past.  It’ll be interesting if this will have an impact on the sales.  For those keeping score, issues set in the present will be odd numbers and issues set in the past (yet another Wonder Woman: Year One story which will nearly bring us to FOUR of these in a year) will be even.

Ray:  Meanwhile, Wonder Woman is trying an experiment that we haven’t seen before, with two stories in the same title at the same time. One thing I’m curious to see is if we see the two stories start to differentiate themselves in sales eventually. The much-hyped “The Lies” story is likely to do very well, but I’m less sure about “Year One”, especially with Legend of Wonder Woman covering the same ground so well.

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 First book out of the top ten is The Flash, with the #1 issue selling just over 100K and the Rebirth special just a little bit below. And frankly, I would imagine these were under-ordered a bit before people realized just how significant this would be to the overall picture of Rebirth. Much like Superman and Wonder Woman, this is a title that had been struggling. DC has to be very happy that one of their most valuable IPs seems to have a hit comic again, especially with the TV series going strong. And Josh Williamson finally has a big two hit!
Glenn:  Very glad to have Williams have a title on the top end of the charts.  There’s no doubt with Flash’s role in Rebirth and his link to the main story carrying on regarding THAT discovery at the end of Rebirth that the book was probably under ordered.  Still a great launch and I think as a result of it being under ordered will find its feet (hah, hah) very quickly.

Ray:  Just below it is Green Lanterns: Rebirth, selling 99K. However, this title starring new GLs Simon Baz and Jessica Cruz follows an unusual pattern and sheds 15K in sales the same month for its #1 issue. While on its own, the numbers are far higher for a GL title, I think that might be some early signs that people aren’t buying into this new status quo. We’ll have to watch this one carefully, especially after Hal Jordan’s GL title arrives next month.

Glenn:  Green Lantern’s time in the sun has passed, this kind of makes it official.  Still a great launch but hopefully it’ll land solidly enough.  I think its wise for DC to seriously cull the amount of books starring Green Lanterns, the franchise is no longer in a position to handle multiple books any longer.

Note:  We realized upon our notes on Green Lanterns that the first issue (aka the Rebirth issue) is co-written by Geoff Johns so that likely accounts for the sales difference
Ray:  Detective Comics lands at #13 and #16, with two issues very close together and little to no attrition this first month. Very impressive, and it seems the Bat-books will continue to dominate the charts. Also important, very high issue numbers and that doesn’t seem to stop people from checking the book out! Take note, Marvel – don’t be afraid to let comics go past issue #12!
Glenn:  Having James Tynion on will help and being a Batman book that is seemingly being treated as much of the ‘main’ book as Batman itself.  It was marketed as new so the numbers on the issues themselves were completely irrelevant.  I would say Tynion leading this book will allow it to find a home a lot higher than its predecessor and its now just a matter of time before it and Action hit that magic 1k.

Ray:  Star Wars holds steady at around 96K this month. Normally, that’s good for a top five finish. This month, it’s only #14, which shows just how high the bar is this month!

Glenn:  Shows that Star Wars can whether the storm.  I think that pretty on level where it was which, in this month is really impressive.  If this is the books level then Marvel can rest easy at least.

Ray:  Green Arrow, a title that was at near-cancellation numbers by the end of its last run, has a very healthy debut for its Rebirth issue at #19 with 81K sales. However, much like Green Lanterns, the book has a very harsh fall to #33 and 69K the same month. The title didn’t change its writer coming into Rebirth, so the long-term impact of Rebirth on this book may be less than it was on some other titles.

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Glenn:If Green Arrow can settle itself VERY quickly it would be performing around and/or better than most of Marvel’s upper mid tier which would be a great success.  DC threw a lot at the the title during the new 52 (6 or 7 different creative teams I believe) so hopefully they let this creative team have their say and build a dedicated audience.

Ray:  And proving the power of Star Wars, at #20 we have the first issue of the adaptation of The Force Awakens. An adaptation of a 7-month old movie that literally everyone in the world already saw. Star Wars! Coming soon – Nien Nunb ongoing series. It’ll land in the top ten.

Glenn:  Just south of 80k is insane for any movie tie-in, especially one which as you said everyone already saw.  Usually these things just exist for completists and such. It’ll be interesting where the rest of the mini lands, especially when its priced at 4.99.  If retailers are trying to send a message that they want more comics set in the Force Awakens era.  I’m sure Marvel would love to give them but I doubt its their call.

Ray:  Just out of the top twenty, we have a very special issue of Deadpool! Packaged with issues of lower-selling titles – Daredevil and Power Man/Iron Fist – for $9.99, this was an experiment in doing a multi-book crossover in one package. And it sold 78K at #22, so watch for this to become a trick Marvel tries again, whether the fans like it or not. Ideally, though, some fans who like what they saw will give those other books a try and boost their sales.

Glenn:  Its another idea that seems to pay off from the mad scientist lab that is Marvel.  Its actually clever cause it boosts their Market share, creates more profit and gives more exposure to a handful of lower selling books.  They keep getting away with it so they’ll keep doing it.

Ray:  Aquaman #1 sells 77K at #24, a good 10K above its Rebirth issue. These are clearly the highest numbers for an Aquaman comic since the launch of the New 52, even though it’s keeping its writer from before Rebirth. We’ll see how it holds as time goes on, but DC has to be very happy with these numbers.

 

Glenn:  Aquaman new 52 sold a lot higher but that had Geoff Johns at the helm and the title has had a lot of damage done to it sales wise since then.  This is another one that will have to stabilize fast but yeah, a good start.

Ray:  The other Superman title, Action Comics, is rock solid at 75K for both issues this month at 25/26, so no inflation for variants at all here. This is a bit lower than I was expecting, compared to Superman, especially as this is the book written by the man who brought OG Superman back – Dan Jurgens. But then, that’s a double-edged sword, as this could be seen as a spin-off of the low-selling Lois and Clark. I’m hoping that people like what they see here and these sales hold very steady.

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Glenn:  75k is WAY higher than what the book was at previously and does a lot better than some of Marvel’s top pushed books.  I would say that this one might be the one that doesn’t grab the top end of the chart but has a solid, dedicated audience that most books would kill for.

Ray:  In the midst of all the DC crazy, Black Panther is rock solid this month despite some delays, selling 75K at #27. That puts it at Marvel’s top-selling ongoing superhero series this month, for anyone checking. Next month’s issue #4 will be the first to reflect sales adjustments, so we’ll see if it can hold on to this level, but right now this has all the markings of a runaway hit for Marvel.

 

Glenn:  Agreed on Black Panther.  The delays haven’t hurt it a bit and it can be considered a real success of Marvel NOW, the book/franchise that it has benefited from it the most.  Of course, unlike the majority of other relaunched books, Black Panther hasn’t been here a number of times in recent years already.  This is the first new run of the book since the Hudlin/JRJR relaunch around 10 years ago.

Ray:  This is where we see the Civil War II tie-ins star showing up. Spider-Man’s tie-in has a very healthy debut at #28 with over 72K sales, above even his ongoing series. Likewise, a few spots down we see the X-Men tie-in at #34 with 68K. These are obviously the elite series, and we won’t see the same effect for things like the anthology series or Kingpin, but this is essentially a bonus Spider-man and X-Men book for Marvel, and they did what they were supposed to.

 

Glenn:  Given his overall popularity and how prominent he was in Civil War last time, I’m not surprised his tie in did the best.  Last Civil War saw the event tie in to the main books whereas the sequel has been partly released through spin offs.  Some might say that if the tie in were in the main book, it would mean more but this way, releasing a decent or more than decent selling mini alongside the regular ongoing means Marvel can have its cake and eat it too.

Ray:  We’ve got two Justice League issues this month at #29 and #32, both selling in the 70K range. These were originally solicited as Geoff Johns issues, but have since been changed to prequels to Titans and Action Comics. Needless to say, there was a lot of retailer confusion here, and these stealth Rebirth issues got a lot of eyes on them despite few people knowing what they were ordering.

Glenn:  Apart from the bump it would have got anyway for 50, Justice League sells around 70k for both issues which is what is probably not a million miles away from where it would have been had it continued.  While we have Bryan Hitch’s League book next month which will likely perform very well, DC has remained very suspiciously quiet over the continuation of the release of this Justice League book.  We all know they’re planning something but who knows actually what form those plans will take.

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Ray:  The lowest-selling launch issue for a Rebirth book this month goes to Titans: Rebirth at #30, still selling a strong 72K. This was essentially a direct sequel to the low-selling Titans Hunt, which probably drove down the sales a bit – but it also may have been massively underordered, since the first issue indicates this book will be dealing with a lot of the direct repercussions from Rebirth, including the presence of the original Wally West. Watch this one to show up again in reorders next month, along with Flash.

Glenn:  Yeah, another reorder one for sure.  Also the Titans brand is very heavily damaged after the last number of years, so retailers are probably wary also.  If it can land at only shedding less than say 15 k or so, DC will be thrilled.

Ray:  Hey, Glenn! Remember last month, when Marvel trolled the whole world with “Captain America is a Nazi”? Sure, everyone was outraged at them, but they knew it would pay off in sales as countless people reordered the first issue and upped their orders on the second. Clearly, the numbers must be impressive, and – oh. So it lost 30K in sales from the first issue, tumbled all the way down to #36 on on the charts, and barely finished above a “Deadpool vs. Gambit” miniseries. Well, that’s embarrassing.

 Glenn:  Captain America: Steve Roger’s sells at 66k which in any other non-Rebirth month would have landed it top 15.  Okay, not disastrous but Marvel took the biggest gamble in the world with their issue one cliffhanger in hoping orders would remain the same or (preferably) shoot up.  We’ll see if it stabilizes at around mid 60k but I think given the dog and pony show that Marvel put on because of issue one, they had to be expecting more.
Stepping back a smidge, Walking Dead is there at 31 with sales over 71k with no returnable orders/variant/Civil Wars/ Rebirths or whatnot.   Even with the equivalent of a massive shouting match going all around it trying to get people’s attention, it just shumbles along, being a hell of a success and not caring what anyone else is up to.
Speaking of Deadpool vs Gambit, it starts off at 37 with sales of 65.7k which is where Deadpool spin off books launch this weather.  I doubt people even read past the ‘vs.’ in the solicitations anymore.  Deadpool vs Gus Beezer would have probably done just as well, it just so happens to be Gambit there.
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Ray:  I think this Deadpool vs. Gambit book sold about 30K less than the launch of Mercs for Money, though, so there’s definitely a bit of diminishing returns. This was written by the unproven Deadpool writers of Acker and Blacker, as opposed to Duggan or Bunn, who are part of the brand. Plus, Gambit isn’t a draw on his own. Still, Deadpool continues to be bulletproof. And yet we still have no Deadpool vs. Rocket and Groot mini.
Glenn:  Amazing Spider-Man, Marvel’s longtime steady performer continues to shed readers and is now down to mid 65k at spots 38 and 39.  Of course, Dead No More is coming and I think is being its own mini which will be 4.99 per issue I believe.  All will be right once more in the Spidey office soon enough I’m sure.
Ray:  ASM continues its slow slide down the charts, but it’s still only behind Black Panther and Deadpool when it comes to Marvel ongoings, so that’s just a sign of the overall trouble Marvel’s having with numbers right now. Like you said, it’ll course-correct soon enough as it enters its next event. Spider-verse provided a huge boost to the whole line when it happened.
Glenn:  The anthology ‘Civil War II: Choosing Sides‘ starts off as 42 with sales over 62.8k.  Its got Marvel’s soon to be more regular than not price tag of 4.99 so I would consider that a good number for a book containing stories on the fringes of the event.  Although Civil War II does not seem to have the literal midas touch its predecessor has, the market is a very different, more wild animal.  This will probably sell above 40k for its run which will keep Marvel happy enough.
Ray:  It seems like this month, at least, all the Civil War titles are doing strong numbers. There’s no Sally Floyd to drag this title down, although it seems like most of the heroes in this book are low-tier characters. I could see it dropping a bit further as retailers start to see that people just aren’t interested in seeing how Damage Control or Goliath Jr. interact with the event.
Glenn:  Punisher takes a stiff drop to 42 to just over 47.5k.  Its placement on the chart is much lower because of Rebirth and Civil War II so that’s to be expected but the unit number has crashed hard.  Still on the upper end for a Punisher book but JUST.  I guess retailers thought they would get interest on an issue 1 based on the appearance of the character on Netflix’s Daredevil but not much beyond that.

Ray:  Punisher’s always been a hard sell, and I’m frankly still puzzled by last month’s insane numbers. A Punisher title selling 47K without variants or events is still something we haven’t seen in a long time, and its performance seems like it could follow Moon Knight or Black Widow quite easily – not a smash hit, but a solid long-term performer for Marvel. Netflix definitely helped here.

 

Glenn:  The 4.99 (there it is again) Spider-Gwen annual sells at 55 with 43.7 k just a tad above the main book which is at 59 with sales over 41.7k.  An annual selling above its main title is unusual but I think retailers might still be trying to recapture some of the Spider-Gwen fans that escaped the net during Secret Wars last year.  Of course, the difference is not too much either way you look at it.  The title has settled to a solid 40k performer. Far below the 90k or so it did in its first volume but an astonishing number for a character that didn’t exist until about a year ago.
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Ray:  I’m wondering if the Spider-Gwen annual was boosted by the fact that it was the first stand-alone Spider-Gwen story in several months, since her solo book was hijacked by an event. Either way, strong numbers for an annual, and an alternate-reality Spider-woman has firmly ensconced herself in the top 10% of Marvel’s output. Nothing to complain about here, even if it’s not quite the supernatural phenomenon it was in 2015.

Glenn:  Amazingly, the number 1 book last month not only recharts at 58 with over 42.7k in sales but at a more expensive price of 5.99.  This second/more expensive print outsells a LOT of new books which shows how in demand Rebirth really was.

Ray:  I knew there was no way Rebirth wouldn’t have strong reorders, once the scope of the spoilers leaked. That puts it at around 300K. One of the most impressive reorder feats in a while – and not the one people were expecting. We’ll talk about the re-orders on that other book in a while.
Glenn:  The next Civil War II tie in, Gods Of War opens at 63 with sales just over 39.6k.  A decent launch for what Ray tells me is a direct continuation of Marvel’s ill fated Hercules series.  If we look at a similar title from the first Civil War era in Dan Slott’s She-Hulk which sold about 20kish and shot up to around 80k with its Civil War tie-in then that tells a story of how this sequel event is doing in comparison.
Ray:  …Look, it’s clearly one of the lowest-selling Civil War tie-ins, but it still sold roughly four times what the next arc of Hercules would have sold. So good job tossing some random CW references into this book and calling it a tie-in Marvel?
Poe Dameron seems to have stabilized pretty nicely with #3, holding at around 60K. That’s well above the level of things like Chewbacca or Obi Wan and Anakin, so we can probably put this book down as a new long-term fixture assuming the sales stay around here.

Three issues in, Moon Knight has stabilized at 40K. That’s very good news. This is a title that debuted without all that much hype, but quickly gained buzz in terms of how good it actually was. That’s being reflected here. It’s rare to see a Marvel book sustain 2/3rds of its first issue sales three issues in.

 

Glenn:  Definitely a healthy level for Moon Knight who has been in  the 20-mid 30k through his last few launches so this is a big uptake. Hopefully this book will be relatively isolated from everything else and just let the creative team do their thing.

 Ray:  Boom’s first powerhouse franchise, Power Rangers, launches its first spin-off “Pink” with strong numbers at #64, doing about 39K. This might have been helped by the presence of Batgirl writer Brenden Fletcher on the book, as he’s got a pretty solid audience by now.
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Glenn:  If this is any indication, we’ll probably get a lot of the more popular rangers get their own mini’s and one shots.  I would bet good money on a Green Ranger/White Ranger mini before so long.  All this Power Rangers material is also going to look very sensible when the movie hits.

Ray:  Thunderbolts’ second issue holds fairly well, charting at #68 and shedding less than 10K from the first issue. We’ll see how it does next month when the adjustments come in, but the initial title may have been underordered a bit. Thunderbolts is a cult property, and it can easily shed another 10K in sales and be fine.

 

Glenn:  Apart from the runaway hit of the a-list casted Ellis run, Thunderbolts has usually landed in the mid 20k range at best so yeah, just over 36k is a great number.  Maybe its the involvement of Bucky on the team?  In any case, the lukewarm reviews the book is getting doesn’t seem to be effecting it too much…yet.

Ray: You know, I see Guardians of the Galaxy down here at #71, selling under 35K, and I’m rather shocked. This is a top franchise, written by one of Marvel’s top writers. It should be doing much better than this, but it’s dropping like a rock. It’s being outsold by Doctor Strange by a good margin, and he hasn’t had a solo title in a decade!

 

Glenn:  Momentum has died off for the Guardians books for sure.  I’m wondering if it was a case of too many Guardians book all at once and it diluted their power overall.  If we compare it to how a Guardians book would have done ten years ago, this number is brilliant but if we look at recent history its not a good sign.  It might be best to give them a rest until the sequel to the movie hits next year and makes everyone Guardians crazy again.

Ray:  To no one’s surprise, Wacky Raceland is the worst of the Hanna-Barberra debuts yet, selling just over 34K at #73. That’s about 15K less than Future Quest and less than half of Scooby. It didn’t have any big names attached and wasn’t critically acclaimed, so this isn’t a big surprise. We’ll see how Flintstones does next month – I expect it to tick up a bit from this due to how well-known the cartoon is.

Glenn:  Its not a stellar debut but again, it depends what DC wants out of this line.  In recent years, the ‘classic’ Hanna Barbara comics have sold about 11-12 k on a good month.  Wacky Raceland was always the eyebrow raiser so a lot of this is going to be curiosity factor but it’ll probably end up a lot lower than the other titles it was launched with.

Ray:  Gwenpool seems to have found its level, dropping only 5K in sales from last month and landing at #76. It seems 30K people want to read Gwenpool. God help us all.

Glenn:  For something that started as a cosplay craze, that’s not too bad at all.  It just makes me a little sad this sells 30k when there’s so many great Image/Vertigo/Dark Horse/etc books selling like 5 digits.  This is why we get so many weird books that don’t make sense every new wave of books, its cause one of them by sheer accident will do decently.

Ray:  While the Civil War II tie-in minis are doing well, it doesn’t seem like the effect is carrying over to the ongoing books tying in. Both Captain America: Sam Wilson and Totally Awesome Hulk are only able to do about 30-31K this month, an increase of less than 5K for both. I think this is more due to the weakness of the titles sales-wise than anything. We’ve talked a lot about the sales struggles here, and it’s interesting that Marvel is doubling down – Sam being the only heroic Captain America now, and Amadeus being likely to keep the role in the wake of spoilers that will be very well known by now. That may be a decision they should sweat a little.

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Glenn:  We all know you-know-who will be back in time for next year so its just one of those things the Hulk book will have to ride out.  Totally Awesome hasn’t caught on at all but Marvel, to their credit is continuing to push the book and now has Cho-Hulk featured in the Champions title.  At least they’re dedicated.

Ray:  To no one’s surprise, Scooby Apocalypse drops a good 40K sales and lands at #82 with sales of 29K. The first issue was clearly inflated, but these are still decent numbers for a Scooby book by any stretch.

Glenn:  That’s a lot lower than I expected but yeah, still great for a Scooby book and the first issue recharts at 239 with sales over 7.8k which is very good too.  There seems to be some interest with this one in the new direction they’ve taken these iconic characters.

Ray:  Vote Loki, a comedy miniseries with no real continuity significance, still manages to sell 29K at #84. People love Loki, people love political jokes, and Loki would still make a better President than (Insert candidate you hate)!

Glenn:  Its a fun book that Marvel has managed to get some interest in, good for them.  It seems that there is definitely still a solid interest in the trickster God in certain ways.  How long until we get a Deadpool/Loki road trip mini?

Ray:  One of the things that shocks me the most about this month’s charts is the placement of the second volume of Jupiter’s Legacy. #1, which came with Frank Quitely art and countless variants by top artists, only manages 28K sales at #86. The bloom is really off the rose with this one, for a book that debuted with six figures originally. I guess sometimes, delays and long absences do affect the sales.

Glenn:  Back in the day, the market was very forgiving with delays but given how much choice there is now, I don’t think those times are still with us.  Its hard to get readers money and its becoming increasingly more and more difficult.  Fans aren’t willing to wait around anymore and will likely just wait for a trade or not bother at all.

 Black Widow has found its level around 27k at 88, not too shabby for a Black Widow title which will keep Marvel happy for the time being.  I bet they were hoping it to remain around mid 30k however.
Ray:  Mark Waid still does have some sales pull, so it’s not a surprise Black Widow has settled above the previous run. If it can sustain sales in the mid-20s indefinitely, it’ll last as long as this creative team wants it to.
Glenn:  Good for Vision to hang on to the top 100 in such a crazy month at 99 with sales just over 22,4k.  Critical acclaim really does amount to something it seems.  Like we’ve said, this one will keep the Marvel financiers happy with its collection for decades to come.
Ray:  Vision is a rare example of a book that finds its level and just locks down. We had this title as in danger from roughly issue three, but at a certain points the drops just stopped. It’s kind of amazing and a testament to the word spreading on just how good this book actually is.
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Glenn:  100th comic is Robin: Son Of Batman which sells over 21.6k which is around 3k higher than the same book at this point did last month.  The market hasn’t magically recovered in one night (no matter how many newspaper articles written by ‘professionals’ may say otherwise) but its still a more reassuring result overall.
Ray:  Sales as a whole are up a lot this month, and it’s good to see that 20K cutoff get so much higher. This Robin title’s always been a solid mid-level seller, and these numbers aren’t bad for a book that lost its original creative team a few months back.
Glenn:  The next inter-company crossover comic (try saying that ten times fast) is Lumberjanes/Gotham Academy which sells over 20.6k at 106.  This was never going to be the big hit Batman/Turtles was and I’m sure neither company expected it to be.  Its a decent performance for two titles that have a steady cult following.
Ray:  Yeah, definitely a long way from the sales of past crossovers, but it’s important to note that this crossover sold a good deal more than either of the actual books it’s crossing over. Gotham Academy is a niche title, and Lumberjanes seems to sell primarily in trades. This is a pretty good number, especially for a title that will likely sell well in collections.
Glenn:  Taking full advantage of their appearance in the new Turtles movie, IDW releases a mini about Bebop and Rocksteady in which they apparently destroy everything, the first issue of which which sells over 18k at 119.  Its okay for a shameless movie tie-in about two of the lamer Turtle’s villains.  Interestingly, it sells nearly 2k above the main turtles book.  I’m surprised IDW didn’t release a Shredder book too, that probably would have sold a few more units too.  The rest of the mini does around 13k which isn’t too bad, it could be a hell of a lot worse and still manages to outsell the likes of Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur and Suicide Squad: Most Wanted.
Ray:  This is the first weekly event TMNT has ever done, and these are solid numbers all around. Bebop and Rocksteady may be B-list villains in the context of the characters, but they have a huge fanbase from the old 90s cartoon, maybe even bigger than Shredder does. I’m not surprised they did so well, especially with them appearing in the movie.
Glenn:  I didn’t think that maybe nostalgia for the cartoon could be pulling in people for Bebop and Rocksteady.  I do think this did better than a Krang mini would do.
Star-Lord goes off into the quiet land of cancellations with the final issue charting at 131 with sales of 16.7k.  The book is getting another relaunch soon so its not a big deal but I wouldn’t get too attached to any Marvel book selling below this one.
Ray:  I think Star-Lord’s cancellation had more to do with Sam Humphries leaving for DC and Marvel not thinking it was worth replacing him given the sales. It’s just a summer break, as we know now any way. Chip Zdarsky will be relaunching the book soon.
Glenn:  Speaking of books in trouble, Nighthawk’s second issue crashes hard down to 134 with sales just a shade over 16.5k.  We’re still in the buffer months so this doesn’t look good, especially after Hyperion has already been put out to pasture.  Maybe Marvel shouldn’t have called both characters boring in the latest issue of Spider-Man/Deadpool, even if they were doing it to take a dig at another company…
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Ray:  Oof, Nighthawk. I knew it would struggle, but I didn’t think it would hit near cancellation numbers two issues in. Some characters just aren’t meant to carry ongoings. And given that Squadron Supreme is well out of the top 100 itself by now, it seems this should be the end of this spinoff experiment.
As you say, the main Squadron Supreme book is having a hard time as is so its not the best book to be spinning out of.  Now Hyperion and Nighthawk are its best known members and had relatively successful mini’s after Supreme Power but the property has taken a lot of hits since then.  As much as Marvel tries, I don’t think its going to be a thing.
Dark Horse is there at 140 with Hellboy In Hell selling near 16k.  This is their highest selling book this month, right in the middle of a bunch of lower selling/digital first/cancelled big two books.  I think saying anything more would just be cruel.
Ray:  The numbers continue to be absolutely grim for Dark Horse, as we’ve discussed. There’s a few tiny bright spots, like the fact that the excellent Harrow County seems to have found its level at around 7K, but overall most of their non-franchise books are well out of the top 300 already. There’s another company of sorts that may be doing even worse, though.
Glenn:  Valient with their overwhelming amount of Harvey nominations keep their ever steady numbers on the second issue of 4001 AD which sells just over 13.5k at 158.  They’re certainty not the biggest player on the battlefield but they’re the ones that seem to have a lot of people talking and paying attention to what they do.
Ray:  Valiant seems to have found a very nice groove where it keeps its lineup mall but almost all books sell decently. With Faith and other upcoming launches, their streak should continue.

So, remember how everyone thought Steve Rogers #1 would rack up the reorders because of all the controversy? #167th place with with 13K in reorders. Certainly not what Marvel was hoping for. I guess it just goes to show, controversy isn’t always good if all people are saying is “How dare you”. That doesn’t drive sales, it just drives people away.

 

Glenn:  The reorder numbers on Steve Roger’s makes the sales we mentioned earlier on DC Rebirth look even better.  I mean, DC released the same thing, got 50k more sales while charging people $3 more dollars for it.  Meanwhile, Marvel earns a lot of bad will that will take some time to recover from and gets…this.  Yay?

Ray:  Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur keeps plugging along, selling just over 12K this month. Maybe Marvel sees something we don’t, because not only is Moon Girl continuing into Marvel Now, but she’s on the teaser poster!

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Glenn:  I’m wondering if they’re hoping for an audience to be caught by the trade and then jump on to the new book when it launches.  I don’t think that will happen. Another example of Marvel not willing to give up.  In a way that can be good but this market just isn’t going to give the space needed for these type of properties the time to find whatever audience Marvel is trying to grab with it.

Ray:  There’s a new debut from IDW, Tales from the Dark Side by Joe Hill. This horror anthology starts pretty well for an IDW book, selling about 12K at #177, although I thought the creator of Locke and Key might push this a bit higher.

 

Glenn:  I would have thought so too.  Joe Hill is not only the writer on Locke and Key but he’s a bestselling novelist.  Its true that his dad has more name pull but that’s like comparing Spielberg with Nolan.  More people will know Spielberg on rep alone but Nolan is just as talented and makes super successful movies too.  Maybe more for the book market?

Ray:  Once again, there’s only one Vertigo book above 10K, Lucifer, which seems to have found its level. Astro City is just a little below it, both towards the bottom of the top 200. The news isn’t nearly as good for the other Vertigo books, which we’ll talk about later.

Glenn:  Vertigo if it was considered as its own thing would be a company in severe trouble.  As is, its a publishing line that has its audience literally evaporating.  The introduction of a Fables spin off will help (I predict a steady 15-20k sales performance) and they seem to still be green lighting new books but how long can the straw bend before it breaks?

Ray:  Albatross Funnybooks, a company we don’t see often, has a new title from Eric Powell, “Hillbilly #1″ at #192. I’m not sure what to make of this one, but Powell has a built in fanbase that probably pushed the book up higher.

Glenn:  The Goon has been going for decades so yeah, its pure name power here.  Its interesting he took it to a small publisher instead of Image or Dark Horse.  He might enjoy even more freedom than those companies offer.

Ray:  There’s a lot of odd reorders this month. Superman #52, Amazing Spider-Man #1 (twice, somehow), Black Panther #1, and the original DC Rebirth printing all chart just out of the top 200.

 

Glenn:  That’s weird with Amazing, might be a mistake or it could be the last two Amazing relaunches?  Its not as if they’re that far apart and maybe retailers ordered the relaunch before last by mistake…

Ray:  There were no A-list Image launches this month, but there’s two new books on the lower end of the chart. Rich Tomasso’s She-Wolf and Howard Chaykin’s Midnight of the Soul both sell in the 9K-8K range. These are cult creators who have a built-in audience, but it’s small. I wouldn’t be surprised if they stay fairly level, especially Chaykin’s book.

 

Glenn:  Cheykin is another one with a small but super dedicated audience.  These are about what I expect these books to be doing and I’m sure they will have very stable sales until the creators decide they no longer have a story to tell.

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Ray:  Hey, remember Pink Panther? He’s back! With a new title from American Mythology Comics, selling just over 8K at #226. About what I’d expect from a property that’s been dormant this long. This one is almost as puzzling as the 3 Stooges book a few months back.

Glenn:  I do remember the Pink Panther!  Another example of comic companies raiding intellectual properties up for grabs and seeing if something might be a hit?  It worked for Boom and Power Rangers but yeah, I wouldn’t say there’s much demand for Pink Panther.  I can’t wait until we get that Love Bug comic in a few months.

Ray:  There’s a new Tank Girl comic that sells about 8K at 221, but what interests me here is that it’s from Titan. I was always under the impression this was a Dark Horse property and they owned the rights, but I guess not. Odd.

 

Glenn:  Tank Girl?  I didn’t even know it was back.  I think even back in the way, this was a book with a cult following and I haven’t seen any fanfare about its return.  Considering how long its been and how much of a niche audience it had last time around, 8k ain’t half bad at all.  I think properties at Dark Horse which are creator owned can go elsewhere if the people creating the book want to.  It depends on each property contract I suppose.  I doubt Dark Horse will feel the stink on losing this property like they have with Star Wars.

Ray:  Lucas Stand #1, from Boom, sells just over 8K at #234. I expected a lot more out of this one because it’s by Kurt Sutter, the creator of Sons of Anarchy. I think this one slipped under the radar like happens with a lot of Boom’s creator-owned properties for an older audience.

 

Glenn:  Boom put out a lot of interesting books but Marvel, DC and Image dominate the headlines.  They are currently shouting in a storm and in order to get more people reading the books they are putting out, they need to figure out a way to get noticed more.

Ray:  Only a few new Dark Horse books make the charts this month, including Van Jensen’s Cryptocracy at #273. Fred Van Lente’s Weird Detective, a noir comic tied into the Cthulhu mythos, doesn’t make the top 300, which just goes to show how grim things are for Dark Horse.

Glenn:  Again, I’m at a loss of what Dark Horse can do to turn things around.  I’m sure they have a lot of hopes for the Lemire book coming out soon.

Ray:  As we head out of the top 300, I feel compelled to note once again just how grim things have gotten for Vertigo. For the record, there’s only four Vertigo books in the top 300 this month. Two, Lucifer and Astro City, are healthy. The others are Clean Room, selling 6.3K at #277, and The Sheriff of Babylon, selling 5.7K at #296. Art Ops, Unfollow, and Suiciders are all gone. Sheriff will be out of the top 300 the next month and Clean Room might soon as well. These are books by Tom King and Gail Simone. They would likely be selling 10K at Image. Something clearly isn’t working at Vertigo, and it’s very odd and disturbing given the caliber of talent here.

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Glenn:  I’m not sure where it all went wrong for Vertigo.  Sandman, Y, 100 Bullets, Fables, Ex Machina and more were all solid to great sellers for the imprint in the past.  The talent putting out the books now are equal to that of the talent that were putting out those books (at the time, of course people like Gaiman have gone on to super super A-list) and the Wake was selling 40kish only a few years ago.  Image has taken a lot from Vertigo in terms of talent and books that a number of years ago would have landed there but still, they’re getting some big talent on quality books and not many people seem to care.  We know that Dark Horse started to run into trouble when they lost Star Wars but I’m not quite as clear what happened to Vertigo.

Ray:  Looking ahead, it’s another big month for DC, as we’ve got a bunch of new Rebirth #1s. Most of the A-listers landed in June, but July does bring us the return of Justice League with two issues, along with Nightwing, Hal Jordan’s Green Lantern title, Gene Yang’s New Super-Man, Hellblazer, and two books starring Batgirl. Plus, Red Hood and the Outlaws is back. They can’t all be winners. Besides the Rebirth action, we’ve got the final Hanna-Barberra book, Flintstones, and a new Batman ’66 miniseries. Plus, we’re going to get to see some of these Rebirth titles find their level, which will be a very interesting story.

 To counter this, Marvel is burying us with a cavalcade of Civil War II tie-ins and miniseries. There’s over 20 tie-ins this month, and while none of them are likely to really debut with huge numbers, we’ll see if there’s any sort of sales bump as the majority of books start tying in. Plus, this month brings us Civil War II #3, which had a massively controversial character death that was hyped months in advance. We’ll see if this moves the needle on the main series at all.

 

Indie books are having a quiet month, but there’s two major releases that I find very interesting. The first is Valiant’s ongoing series for Faith. This character got a ton of hype with her miniseries that, to be blunt, wasn’t borne out in the actual sales of the mini. It did well for Valiant, but not spectacularly. This book is launching with much more hype, even, so Valiant clearly sees something here. If trade sales translate to new readers, this could do surprising numbers. The other is the long-delayed Dark Horse title Black Hammer, from Jeff Lemire and Dean Ormstrom (who recovered from a stroke to return to this book). This is the Dark Horse title with the most buzz in a long time, so if anything can turn their fortunes around and land them a book in the top 100, it’s this.

Glenn:  Its going to be another interesting month for sure with lots more to look over.

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By The Numbers: May 2016

Like in any industry, comic books and their companies listen most to one thing and that’s your money! What does your money tell them? What does it tell us as fans? What series do people say they adore but can’t seem to catch a break and what books to people hate that sell out? What are the trends? What looks good? What looks rough?

All these questions and more will be answered here, every month in ‘By The Numbers’ by comic writers, editors and fans, Glenn Matchett and Ray Goldfield.

Glenn Matchett is a comic writer and editor. He’s worked in the industry for 6 years but grew up reading comics. He is currently published with Outre Press,Nemeses Studios and Alterna! He is on the home stretch on an OGN he hopes people will find funny.

Ray Goldfield is a fan of comic books for going on 25 years, starting with the death of Superman. He is a writer and editor for Grayhaven Comics and is working on his first novel. Ray also does a weekly roundup of DC comic reviews for website Geekmom and they’re brilliantly entertaining. He has the uncanny ability to predict how a movie performs financially, some speculate he may be a wizard.

We also do a podcast together with longtime buddy, Brandon James on iTunes with Rabbitt Stew or at the link here! Don’t ask, I didn’t pick the name. If you’d like to hear what me and Ray sound like, give it a listen!  The episode where we talk about this very sales charts in a little less detail is available here!

Full top 300 for May available here!

Glenn:  Okay, everyone strapped in?  Good stuff because its time for the big showdown we’ve been talking about for months.

May sales sees the epic face off between the launch of Marvel’s Civil War (kinda) and DC’s Rebirth.  Well the time is here, the betting has closed and the results are in.
DC wins May with Rebirth 1 hitting the number 1 spot with over 235k sales.  I actually don’t see that DC managed to pull out the win here at all.  This one shot had the hype, the creative and the price point designed to get retailers interested.  Rebirth came a bit late out of the gate but doesn’t seem to have effected in.  Given the things that happen in this issue, I wouldn’t be surprised if further printings draw a respectable number also.  Next month we’ll see if DC’s giant line wide relaunch has worked but Rebirth is a very promising start.
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Ray:  I’m wondering if the vagueness surrounding Rebirth managed to dull the sales a bit here. We knew it was going to be big, for sure, but DC’s last big relaunch fizzled, and no one knew just HOW big this was going to be. If they went the Marvel route, and leaked the Wally West or Watchmen stuff early, it could have easily doubled these numbers, I think. But regardless, a win is a win, and you’re right that DC is likely going to see this high up on the charts again next month.
Glenn:  There was a lot of unanswered questions going into Rebirth, this is true.  It’s always a gamble when companies keep things vague but with I think it paid off for DC, we’ll see how much it did when more orders for Rebirth come through next month.
Taking the silver medal in second place with sales of over 177 k with a ‘zero’ issue is Civil War II.  I expected a lot more given the level of hype and the branding/mega success of the first time Marvel did this 10 years ago.  Oh and plus the movie of course.  Now this is a very good number but I’m wondering if retailers are going to treat the first proper issue next month with more attention.  I’m not sure what the logic behind the odd numbering choice was but I think it cost Marvel a bit.  We’ll be able to better decide how strong Civil War is next month when it starts properly along with its many, many tie in mini’s.
Ray:  On a similar note to Rebirth, actually, I wonder if the strange pacing of Civil War II hurt it. For those who haven’t been following, this event started in a Free Comic Book Day issue where an extremely key scene happened. This issue then flashed back to well before that. Then Civil War II #1 still started before the FCBD issue, and caught up midway through with the big event happening off-panel there. What was this zero issue? How essential was it? I don’t know if anyone knew. I’m expecting a surge to over 200K for the first issue of the mini this month, but if it doesn’t get that – or even goes down from the zero issue, we’ll know the bloom is really off the rose with this comic.
Glenn:  My head got hurt reading your breakdown so I would expect that readers actually buying the comic are finding it a little tricky to follow what is going on in CW II also.  Last time, Civil War had a massive, unprecedented sales effect across every book it touched, bumping everything it had any link to up anywhere between 10-20k in sales or more.  It’ll be curious if the sequel has the same blanket effect.
A massive debut for the latest relaunch of the Punisher by Becky Cloonan and Steve Dillon with third place and sales of over 110.7k.  I think this is the biggest Punisher relaunch in recent memory and this is a character that Marvel has relaunched A LOT (even for them).  I think the popularity of Punisher on the Daredevil Netflix show and news of his own show brewing has a big hand here but the creative team shouldn’t be overlooked.  Many people demand female writers getting a chance of prominent male heroes and here we have it, plus Steve Dillon may be the definitive Punisher artist.  For whatever reason, its a great start and we’ll see where it lands.  If it can do around the same level as most of Marvel’s mid performers that would be a great result for the character historically speaking.
Ray:  On the other hand, I really do feel like this Punisher is an unqualified, massive success. All those factors you listed make sense as contributors to the success, but I’m still puzzled by just how well it did. One of only four books to break 100K this month! For a character whose last few titles got cancelled for low sales! I expect a massive fall next month, of course, but even that should get this title to a fairly safe level for a while. If it can bottom out at 25-30K, that’s historically a good level for a mainstream Punisher book. And I still can’t believe it beat that other Marvel #1!
Glenn:  Old reliable, Batman finishes its run on issue 52 with sales over 102k making its entire run of 52 issues in the six digits which is amazing.  This is a fill-in issue with last months issue seeing the departure of Snyder and Capullo but it was a very strong issue and bodes well for the upcoming bi-monthly Batman which will have Tom King at the helm.  I don’t know if the new Batman title will be able to replicate the astonishing success of this run though, I don’t think we’ll ever see anything like it anytime soon.
Ray:  Amazing success for Batman. Helping it (besides the confusion over whether Snyder was actually writing this issue) was probably that this issue was written by incoming Detective writer and Snyder collaborator James Tynion IV, so it felt relevant. As for the new title, it’s coming out of the gate with rave reviews, a first issue co-written by Snyder, and a ton of hype, so who knows. I think it could surprise us.
Glenn:  Tynion has co-written or taken on some back ups in Batman during Snyder’s run, written a few annuals and had a big hand in Eternal.  He’s got enough bad pedigree by now that I don’t think we would have seen that much of a difference if the confusion around Snyder’s involvement hadn’t been in place.  It’ll be interesting to see how he manages to get Detective Comics to perform on next months chart.
Next is that comic, Captain America: Steve Rogers which sells over 99k at number 5.  There’s a lot to go over here.  Addressing the elephant in the room so to speak, this is the now infamous ‘Cap is Hydra‘ issue which, since there was no hint of this twist prior will ensure that this issue will see healthy reorders next month.  Looking on it as is, while its another decent launch, to me not being able to crack 100k for the return of Steve Rogers (again) in a year where he has a big movie out is a little telling.  Sales for Captain America have found it hard since the departure of Ed Brubaker a number of years ago.  The latest reveal seems to be ensuring sales success but once the novelty dies off will the gamble be worth it?  Time will tell.
Ray:  There’s obviously two ways to look at this Captain America book. Problem is, neither is very good for the title. Marvel, for a change, kept this twist under their hat, so this was ordered at the level that retailers ordered the long-awaited return of Steve Rogers to the Captain America suit. And that’s under 100K and less than a Punisher relaunch. For the record, Captain America: Reborn under Brubaker beat Blackest Night #1 in its launch month. Now, obviously this book is going to be high on the re-order charts next month because the twist caught everyone by surprise. But is it going to hold those numbers? I doubt it. When the audience’s primary reaction to a twist is “How dare you”, that doesn’t bode well for long-term success.
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Glenn:  Number 6 is Star Wars which continues its very, very, very slow drift down in sales, getting over 95k this month.  Not much to report here.
Ray:  Star Wars and Vader are both experiencing standard attrition which has brought them down to earth, but these are still impressive numbers. What I will note, though, is that Star Wars has fallen below the 100K mark in 20 issues coming off the biggest movie of all time – while Batman stayed above that mark for 52 issues straight. This just shows how amazing Batman’s feat is.
Glenn:  Number 7 is the final issue of Geoff Johns Justice League and also an issue 50 which probably combined was enough for them to get a sales boost to over 94k.  While it hasn’t been the trailblazer that Batman has, Johns run on Justice League has been a solid performer for its 50 issue run.  The price point of 5.99 again doesn’t seem to have made much of a difference in demand here.  This issue was very much a lead in to Rebirth which wasn’t advertised so now that everyone knows that, expect this one to pull in a decent reorder next month too.
Ray:  Yeah, this JL number is a bit lower than I would have expected, but then this arc didn’t go over all that well as a whole. The Rebirth tie-ins caught everyone by surprise, so I think there’ll be a bit of a scramble for this issue. All the better for DC next month.
Glenn:  Number 8 is everyone’s favorite Sith Lord, Darth Vader which pulls in sales of just over 86.6k.  This is actually 10k higher than last month for no apparent reason than I can think of.  Now that we know the book has an expiry date it seems it will finish off at a very healthy number indeed.
With an incredible hold of the sales success it had last month, Black Panther sells just over 77.5k which is enough to keep it in the top ten for now with the number 9 spot.  Of course a near 200k drop is a massive one but there are a lot of other Marvel books that fared a lot worse in their second issue.  Over 70k is still a brilliant number for a Black Panther comic and this one still has a lot of room left to fall.
Ray:  That’s a hefty drop for Black Panther, but still a strong number. For a comparison, Dr. Strange – another character who hadn’t had an ongoing title in years and now has one with an a-list creative team leading up to a movie – debuted at roughly 150K and sold 65K with its second issue, so Black Panther is improving on that path. If it holds at that level of slow attrition (although the delays are worrisome), it’s going to firmly ensconce itself as one of Marvel’s top tier for this run.
Glenn:  Finally, Marvel’s other dependable performer, Amazing Spider-Man manages to make the top ten at 10 with sales just under 75k.  If Black Panther follows the set pattern, Amazing will reclaim its spot as the highest selling superhero book Marvel has (not counting relaunches or such).  Some joke that Marvel will have the take the title out of writer Dan Slott’s cold dead hands but considering he is helming one of their top performers, I wouldn’t see they’re in a rush to make him leave,

Ray:  Not much to add on ASM, which is just as reliable as Batman (and will likely resume its place as Marvel’s top ongoing superhero book next month), but I’ll add that when Dead No More kicks off, I wouldn’t be surprised at all to see it surge and find a place in the top five regularly.

 

And at #11, in what is sure to be a sign of the Apocalypse…it’s Scooby Apocalypse! On the surface, this isn’t too shocking, given the hype, variant covers, and Jim Lee’s involvement. But given the overwhelming way this comic was mocked, I can’t see it holding these numbers. I’m thinking this is a first month bump situation that will completely evaporate.

Glenn:  Having Jim Lee involved in any capacity is going to get your book sold, no matter what.  The Hanna Barbara relaunces are a curious move for DC and its difficult to say what they want out of them.  Given how Scooby books traditionally do (Scooby team up is at 208 with sales of 8.4k and Where Are You is at 297 with sales just over 5k) this is a big win for DC.  Will be happy with sales at half of the near 70k they managed here or possibly less?  Time will tell.
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Star Wars: Poe Dameron had a very stiff drop to #12 this month with sales of just over 68K. That puts it well below the top two Star Wars titles after only two months, and has to be a serious disappointment to Marvel, who was hoping to capitalize on the character’s massive fanbase from the movie.

Glenn: Given that Poe is the least prominent (so far) of the new protagonists introduced in Force Awakens, that might attribute to the drop.  I don’t think the BB-8 back up was really included in solits and if it had been, how that might have effected sales.  Its selling at a decent level compared to the majority of Marvel’s ongoings but will need to find its level fast.

Ray:  Batman/TMNT finishes strong at #14 with sales of around 65K. This is the most successful inter-company crossover in years by a mile, and you know DC will be talking with other companies to find out how to replicate this goldmine. Superman/Transformers? Robins/Power Rangers? Let’s find out!

Glenn:  The collection will do good business no doubt also.  This is a big win for both DC and IDW so yeah, I’m fully expecting to see more crossovers.  It likely won’t do nearly as well but it’ll be interesting to see how the Gotham Academy/Lumberjanes crossover does next month since their audiences are a lot more specific than the large fanbases that both Batman and the Turtles have.

Ray:  Oh, hey, there’s Deadpool! Followed by Deadpool! Followed by Deadpool! And on his heels, Deadpool! Four Deadpool books in a row, starting with Spider-Man/Deadpool, followed by two issues of the main book (currently Marvel’s #2 ongoing with settled numbers), and then Deadpool: Last Days of Magic, which is incredible numbers for a random tie-in with Dr. Strange. The Merc with a Mouth is  a gold mine right now!

Glenn:  Having four books in the charts by all 3 different creative teams and stories shows just how solid Deadpool is right now.  I would say expect more Deadpool everything but we’re already getting that so…expect even more I guess!

Ray:  Superman #52, which featured the death of the New 52 Superman, got a rather significant boost to the top 20 with sales over 54K. I will say, though, that the other three chapters of this crossover are between 15K and 16K lower, which makes me think this was a speculator boost more than anything. They certainly didn’t expect people to be going all in on the crossover.

Glenn:  Its not quite the mass media event the last death of Superman (spoilers) was, is it?  DC is looking at this one setting the table for Rebirth and that’s it.  The sales boost will be nice but I’m sure that most of the numbers on the last issues of the New 52 books are being treated as inconsequential.
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Ray:  The core three X-books are all in a loose crossover event right now, Apocalypse War, and they are all clustered together with sales of around 50K. What’s interesting to me is that All-New X-Men, the satellite book focusing on the kid X-Men, is doing the highest, and flagship title Extraordinary X-Men is doing the least.

Glenn:  Given how big a push Extraordinary got, that is really surprising.  This is probably dictated more by books that people are enjoying rather than the ones Marvel is treating as most and least important.  They’re all grouped pretty close together, like you say so it seems there’s a pretty dedicated audience for this crossover.  10 years ago or so, an X-Men crossover would have pulled a six digit sales number without breaking a sweat but times very much have changed.  Nowadays, 50-60k or so is pretty much where X-Men crossovers usually live.

Ray:  With #4, Spider-Man seems to have found its level at around 49K. Its #28 finish puts the book in decent company for now, just below Iron Man and Dr. Strange. Will it hold these numbers in six months? We’ll see, but the upcoming Civil War tie-in will likely help with that.

Glenn:  Marvel are giving Miles a lot of high profile spots, they want him to work so they’ll probably be committed to the long term.  I still predict Miles to ultimately meet the fate as other young people with Spider powers like Mattie Franklin.

Ray:  Future Quest, by the exceptional creative team of Parker/Shaner and with consultation from the late Darwyn Cooke, debuts at #29 with sales of 48K. On one hand, that’s good numbers for a Johnny Quest book guest-starring a host of forgotten cartoon characters. On the other, this brilliant old-school adventure sold 20K less than Cyborg Scooby vs. Zombies and I want to cry.

Glenn:  *hugs Ray* Considering how obscure most of the characters in Future’s Quest are, that’s a great number.  This book is purely for the Hanna Barbera nostalgia crowd whereas the other launch books seem to be going for a new audience using very different takes.  We’ll see how Future’s Quest performs in future issues but looking at how this line performs usually, that’s a great number, especially for a mini series which is going to be done before we know it.

Ray:  Marvel has another debut this month in Thunderbolts, which teams Winter Soldier with the original Thunderbolts in a story spinning right out of Standoff. Reviews were not good, and retailers seem to have adjusted accordingly, as it only sells 45K at #32. That’s not impressive at all, and this title will likely struggle quickly. It’s still a good deal better than one of the other new Marvel #1s this month, though.

Glenn:  The last time Thunderbolts performed well was when Warren Ellis reshaped the book to star a cast of prominent villains.  Going back to a version of the original cast will be a hard task and even adding Bucky, who hasn’t been the biggest sales draw for a while either isn’t seemingly going to help things.  Its an okay launch but given how books are selling that launched at double or triple this number, it may not be a long road ahead for Thunderbolts.

Ray: A new Daredevil/Punisher miniseries sells 42K at #37, almost the exact level of Daredevil this month. This is interesting, because I think it was intended to be the direct tie-in to the Netflix series. However, retailers just treated it like a Daredevil miniseries, while the main Punisher series exploded.

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Glenn:  Maybe we’re not giving the creative team enough credit on Punisher then?  However, mini’s unless they’re a major event never do well as main books.  This will do nicely as a collection most likely for people yet to discover the Netflix show.

Ray:  Mighty Morphin’ Power Rangers seems to have found a healthy level at around 38K, far and away the top title for Boom. I wonder how the company’s crossover with Gotham Academy and Lumberjanes will do, given their new momentum in the market.

Glenn:  Great minds think alike!  A great performance for Boom, its nice for them to have a solid performer since they seem to be delivering some of the best books in the market right now.

Ray: Gwenpool tumbles hard from its top ten debut last month, landing at #45 with sales of about 38. I think this is an expression of discretion at work in the market. This is a novelty character and won’t last. On the other hand, Jeff Lemire’s Moon Knight has a rather healthy fall to 35K and may have legs for the duration of Lemire’s run.

Glenn: Given that Spider-Gwen manages to pull in sales of just under 50k at 25, Gwenpool will need to stop shedding sales quickly to be considered worth publishing long term.  We know that WolverGwen is coming in the next few months but hopefully the drop on Gwenpool will tell Marvel not to press their luck too much.

Ray:  #49 this month goes to Deadpool: Masacre. For the record, this is the English translation of an all-Spanish Deadpool comic that was released a few months ago. Yep. The power of Deadpool.

Glenn:  Next up:  Deadpool colouring book!  Wait…that’s seriously a thing?
Ray:  The other Marvel debut of the month is Nighthawk, landing at #50 with sales of just over 34K. That’s about 3K above the sales of Hyperion when it debuted (and for the record, it sold just over 13K with issue #3 this month), and that’s the numbers of a series that isn’t likely to make it past #8. Trying to make Squadron Supreme into a franchise right out of the gate is probably the most misguided attempt at spin-offs since DC and the Red Circle books.
Glenn:  Yeah..Marvel maybe needs to stop making Squadron Supreme happen, its not going to happen.  I wonder if this book will end up with better or worse than fellow Batmanlike Midnighter which ended at 197 with sales just over 9.3k.  A couple of months ago, Nighthawk writer David Walker got a respectful launch out of Cyborg but his books at Marvel seem to have landed quite harshly.  Power Man and Iron Fist is now selling just over 26k at 71 (which is you know, okay I guess) so hopefully his recent stints on Marvel books hasn’t hurt the initial sales power he seemed to be able to manage to draw for Cyborg over at DC.
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Ray:  Those Power Man and Iron Fist numbers may not be great, but they’re probably sustainable for a decent-length run. I think Marvel’s probably going to invest in Walker and move him up to a higher-tier title (Black Panther after Coates leaves?), but this book was never going to sell no matter who wrote it.
Glenn:  Green Lantern and Flash finish their new 52 runs very close together at sales just under 33k.  Flash has been performing at this level throughout most of the new 52 run while Green Lantern has fallen quite a bit since the heyday of Geoff Johns.  Either way, DC again probably isn’t that concerned.  Rebirth will fix everything forever and ever (they hope).
Ray:  Both GL and Flash lost a lot of their momentum after the original creative teams left (with GL taking the harsher fall, of course), so these numbers are disappointing but not terrible. Buzz indicates that Flash will be getting a huge boost with Rebirth, while GL should jump up but seems more like business as usual. It’ll be interesting to see how this shakes out next month.
Glenn:  Black Widow seems to have found its level at around 30k, good enough for a Black Widow comic but given the creative team I would say Marvel would have wanted it to lank 5-10k higher at least.  Still, that’s a respectful enough number.
Continuing to be the scrappy underdogs, Valient pulls in a decent number with their latest major tie-in, 4001AD with sales just over 27k at 66.  Not quite the hit that their previous crossover ‘Book Of Death‘ was but then that tie in didn’t have to compete with Civil War II or Rebirth.  For a smaller publisher, Valiant continues to hang in there and out sells a lot of more prominent DC and Marvel titles.
Ray:  Valiant is slowly but surely carving out a little place for itself on the charts, despite only releasing 8-10 books a month. These are decent numbers, especially as Book of Death was a main-line crossover while this one is set in the future and spins out of the lower-selling Valiant book Rai. Valiant growing their line slowly is a good move that’s helping them.
Glenn:  Karnak returns to the sales charts with issue 4 landing at 76 with sales of just over 23.7k.  Its hard to judge how the delays may have hurt the book but its still a good number for a second string Inhuman character.  The book will survive as long as Warren Ellis shows interest in it.
Ray: Yeah, Ellis’ name is probably good for a decent 10K sales boost on any title. I think Karnak will probably keep going at acceptable numbers for a short time, but I can’t see Ellis staying on this book past 12 because he’s so busy, and the title will likely go with him.
Glenn:  True Believers: Star Wars classic was a promotional book priced at $1 that reprinted the first issue of Marvel’s previous Star Wars comic. It sold over 21k which isn’t bad for material that’s over 30 years old.  The power of Star Wars!
Ray: You slap Star Wars on the title right now, it’s going to sell. Coming soon – Star Wars Meets Squadron Supreme?
Glenn:  Tom King’s Vision manages to hang in there at 96 with sales of over 19k.  Its a small but dedicated audience for the book.  Watch the collection to keep the Marvel piggy bank going for years when his name blows up over at DC.
Ray:  Vision is a good example of what happens when a niche book really gets people talking. Any other title selling 19K would likely be reaching cancellation numbers in a few months, but Vision seems to have leveled out and will probably stay close to this level until its planned ending at issue #12, where it’ll go down as an all-time classic.
Glenn:  The 100th top selling book was All New Inhumans sold just over 18.8k.  Nearly 2k under 20k which is very troubling.  More on this at the end of the chart but keep that in mind.
Ray: Worth noting that the flagship Inhumans book, Uncanny Inhumans, only sold 7K higher at #73. It seems pretty clear that Marvel’s second attempt at turning Inhumans into a major franchise is a no-go as well. The new X-Men they’re not.
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Glenn:  Its hard to force something into the limelight after it having decades as at best, a fringe section of the Marvel universe.  It worked with Guardians because of the movie but with Inhumans the best it has at the moment is a lot of talk on the SHIELD TV show.
TV show tie-in, Adventures Of Supergirl launches at 16k at 121.  Media tie ins are always going to struggle but this seems a little low even for that.  Perhaps if the book had just been called Supergirl it would have done better?  Given the show is a decent hit and the prominence of the writer of Sterling Gates in the past you would have thought this might have managed to crack 20k.  This is just a reprint of digital first content so the economies are different here in any case.  Look for this one to be quickly forgotten sales wise when the proper Supergirl returns as part of Rebirth.
Ray:  Those are surprisingly low numbers, landing even below two issues of fellow digital-first comic Bombshells. While I do think there’s a real hunger for a Supergirl comic and the Rebirth title will be a hit, the rollout on this book was weird. DC first said there wouldn’t be a print compilation until the trade, but fan response made them back down. It was then retro-solicited close to the release date, which means some retailers may have missed the boat. I think it’s probably doing well in the digital format, which was the only way to read it at first.
Ray:  The swap and change with the orders may have had an impact definitely.  We’ll see how it does next month then.

Haunted Mansion is holding up well, selling about 17K at #115. This is the first Disney ride spin-off that’s shown any sort of sales traction, and I put most of that down to the writer. Of course, he’s headed off to DC and the next ride tie-in is…Enchanted Tiki Room. I don’t see that pattern continuing.

Glenn:  Haunted Mansion benefits both from having a writer with serious horror cred and being the best known ride they’ve turned into a comic so far.  I would say that with the choice of the next ride, I would speculate that Marvel has little choice in what they get to adapt.  Again, these things will make their money in the gift shop.  Next up: Its a small world by Ennis and Dillon!

Ray:  I won’t lie, I would read the hell out of that It’s a Small World comic. Get on it, Marvel!
Glenn:  It could be educational!  We could learn about small creepy puppets, all over the world.  Which is a small, small world (or so I hear)

Ray:  Black Panther adds another 15K in sales this month, charting at #133 with its reprint. Impressive, but it certainly wasn’t under-ordered.

The two Archie horror books returned this month, and both found a decent sales level, with Afterlife With Archie selling about 19K and making the top 100, and Sabrina selling about 15K. The main Archie reboot was sandwiched in between them at around 16K, so the line seems to have found its level – although Jughead is down at #202 with sales of around 9K, so that may be the line’s weak point.

Glenn:  The Archie books are now performing largely over 10k where they were prior to the relaunch, so that’s good news for the company of the same name.  With Betty & Veronica and Josie and the Pussycats launching in a few months, the publisher seems confident about their place in the market.  With the Sabrina creative team moving over to Jughead, I wonder if it’ll have any impact on its sales since there is a slightly larger audience for her book?

Ray:  I’m shocked to see Cyborg only selling 12K, clustered in the 150s with books like Martian Manhunter, Gotham Academy, and Secret Six – all good books, but certainly niche books. What is DC thinking relaunching this as a biweekly book in Rebirth? The JLA’s resident tech hero hasn’t proven he can carry a monthly yet, let alone two issues a month.

Glenn:  Cyborg had a fantastic, critically acclaimed launch and seemed to have crashed and burned shortly thereafter.  Perhaps DC is hoping with a writer who won’t leave for Marvel and the Rebirth Branding that the book can survive at a higher level?  Its a gamble for sure, one of the few they’re making in their initial Rebirth roll out.  Cyborg probably also has a spot due to his upcoming prominence in the DCCU and the fact that they’ve been trying to make him an a-lister since Flashpoint.  You can’t say that DC sure doesn’t try to make a thing work.
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Ray:  Hyperion, Moon Girl, Drax, and Patsy Walker: Hellcat are all down to the 13K-11K range, so I would say watch those books for the next wave of cancellations. They’re the lowest-selling Marvel books that are still continuing.

Note:  Hyperion was missing from the latest Marvel solicitations.  Salute it as it sails into the sunset.
Glenn:  The bloom may be off the rose with Guardian tie-ins with the highest selling being Rocket and Groot at 89 with sales just over 21k.  A long way away from the top 15 staple Rocket’s solo book was prior to Secret War.  It’ll be interesting to see if Marvel ever bothers with the Gamora mini with how the other solo books are doing.
Ray:  Those are depressing numbers for Rocket and Groot, but with Skottie Young leaving the series and being replaced by a less-known creator, it’s sort of inevitable. I expect the line to shrink a lot soon, much the way GL did from its heyday.
Glenn:  The rest of the books there isn’t much more to say about.  These books in this market are all going to have uphill climbs.  Civil War II and the subsequent relaunch will buy them some time but with the ever depleting diminishing returns Marvel is getting on their relaunches, those that are relaunched again probably won’t fare much better.

Ray:  Gene Ha’s fantasy comic from Dark Horse, Mae, has a decent debut this month of around 11K. Ha is still a pretty popular artist, but it’s worth noting that this is Dark Horse’s third-highest selling book of the month, only behind their two bread-and-butter franchises, Hellboy and Buffy.

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Glenn:  Its time for our monthly Dark Horse concern whose highest selling book was Hellboy In Hell at 132 with sales over 15.6k.  They’re probably calling Chuck Palahniuck about Fight Club III right now.

 Ray:  The second issue of Adventures of Supergirl sinks to 11K, a harsh fall for the same month, but like I said above, this was a weird rollout and the book is probably making most of its money in digital.

In one of the oddest books of the month, we had Brian Azzarello launching a fantasy-horror comic as a beer tie-in with 3 Floyds: Alpha Kings from Image. That did just over 10K at #191, not an impressive debut for a big name like Azzarello. But then…beer tie-in. I doubt direct market sales were the concern here.

Glenn:  A beer tie-in?  How strange, I guess even with the current market there is still room for some bizarre books to get a spot.

Ray:  As we exit the top 200, it’s worth noting that there’s exactly one Vertigo title still selling over 10K, and that’s Lucifer with 10.7K. It’ll likely fall just under that mark next month just like Astro City did this month.

Glenn:  Having a TV show which to be fair, is only a very, very, very (half an hour later), very loose adaption isn’t helping Lucifer much it seems.  Its association with Sandman is probably helping it be the most successful of the currently struggling Vertigo line.  Lets hoping some of those new books coming from some of their exclusive talent will far better but its hard to imagine they will.
Ray:  And with its second issue, Bloodlines drops to under 9K at #204. Shocking numbers for a main-line DC title. Very good chance this is out of the top 300 by the end of its run. Womp womp.

Glenn:  I’m not even sure what Bloodlines is, so there you go.

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 On the strength of the success of their Back To The Future comic from late last year, IDW launches the first issue of a new comic called Back To The Future: Citizen Brown which manages sales just over 15.4k at 136.  Decent enough for a media tie in that is now based on a property over 30 years old.  The success of the comic last year was to do a lot with the media at large’s reaction to Back To The Future day but it seems that there is still some interest in this old property even if I don’t expect it to last.
Ray:  Back to the Future is one of those classic movies that seems to maintain a presence in the market even though it hasn’t put out a new movie in decades. See also, Bill and Ted which does decent numbers for Boom.
Glenn:  Titan releases its 50 thousandth TV tie in book in the form of Penny Dreadful, the exceptional Showtime show featuring many characters of popular fiction.  It launches just over 11k.  I think the show is pretty popular but I don’t see most of the fans being interested in a comic tie in.  This one will be for the die hard fans only.
Ray:  TV tie-ins seem to be all over the place these days, and very few of them seem to be catching on. Things like Blacklist, which operate on a case-a-week format, might translate well to the format. I can’t see either Vikings or Penny Dreadful following. These are clearly only for completists – which isn’t the worst strategy, when your core audience is over one million people.
Glenn:  Omega Men finishes its run at over 8k.  It received a lot of critical attention and with Tom King’s rise to the (arguably) top book at DC, the trade sales will probably pay DC for ever publishing this in the first place.
 Boom releases a new book called ‘Weavers‘ which launches at 213 with sales just over 8k.  I’m not too familiar with the creative team so this is probably the best you can expect from a indie book with no big names attached.  For the record, the book seems to be about organized crime and sounds quite good.
Ray:  Weavers is a Simon Spurrier title dealing with gangsters with magic spiders inside them that give them superpowers. It’s mostly memorable to me because it was initially mistaken for a new Spider-man comic when the art first leaked. These numbers are about what I would expect, a big higher for a Boom #1 with no big names. Maybe a Spider-man boost?
Glenn:  You mentioned  Bloodshots earlier but Marvel mainline book Red Wolf isn’t doing much better.  The ‘how did this ever get greenlit?’ Marvel title sells over 7.7k at 217 and gets outsold by the likes of Xena, Scooby Doo and…Jem and The Holograms.
Ray:  Red Wolf is going to be a footnote for Marvel, for sure. Shockingly, even lower you find Starbrand and Nightmask at #289, selling just over 5K. That would have been out of the top 300 next month, but this is the final issue.
Glenn:  IDW releases a comic adaption of the near 20 year old little known movie which is based on the book ‘Fear And Loathing In Las Vegas‘ which sells over 7.5k priced at 4.99.  It seems to be a bigger than average comic for the price but I just wondered who they thought would really want this.  Its at 223
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Ray:  ...The Hunter S. Thompson book as a comic? Okay. While the top of the chart is fun to discuss in terms of the big trends, the bottom has its appeal too, because that’s where you find these really bizarre comics that you’ve never heard of before.
Glenn:  Another TV show tie-in from
A) Matchett Magazines
B) Ray’s readings
C) Titan
The choice is yours when it comes to Vikings at 245 with sales over 6.7k.  Same deal with Penny Dreadful as I would say that many fans of the show aren’t looking for more stories elsewhere beyond what they see on screen.
The rest of the charts is filled with the usual cast of low selling media tie-ins, small press non big name new properties with IDW sneaking in at 300 with one last new book in Brutal Nature which sells just under 5k.  Once you reach 250 or below that, some of the numbers start to get a little depressing.

Ray:  Never heard of Brutal Nature. IDW has increased their number of creator-owned books in recent months, but with zero promotion or name recognition on most of them, they have even more trouble getting momentum in the field than Dark Horse or Boom.

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Looking ahead to June, the big event is finally here on more than one level! It’s Rebirth month for DC, as all the A-listers launch their new titles. Superman, Batman, Action Comics, Detective Comics, Flash, Aquaman, Wonder Woman, Green Lanterns, and Titans all land, most of them shipping two issues. We’ll get a quick look at how much Rebirth is moving the needle on DC’s top franchises. In addition, the third Hanna-Barberra book, Wacky Raceland, is debuting with far less in the way of hype than the first two, so I’m not expecting strong numbers there.

For Marvel, it’s all Civil War II, all the time. The main mini launches its first two issues (not counting this month’s #0 or the FCBD issue), and we’ll see if its numbers start looking up. In addition, there’s a lot of tie-ins, and new miniseries for X-Men, Spider-Man, Hercules, and an anthology book.

It’s a fairly small month for creator-owned books, but there’s a few notables. Mark Millar’s Jupiter’s Legacy returns with a second volume after a massive delay, and Howard Chaykin launches a new original property with Midnight of the Soul for Image. And over at IDW, Joe Hill launches a new anthology series with Tales from the Darkside, potentially bringing that Locke and Key fanbase with him.

Glenn:Lots of things to look to in June in terms of sales.  We’re going to see a lot of high profile launches hit the charts.

It may be just in time.  We talk a lot about book trends but the overall market as a whole is on an unsettling downward slope.  Books in the top 100 are now selling below 20k which is unsettling and overall sales are down across the board.  Companies like Dark Horse and lines like Vertigo are gradually fading away and its becoming harder for new blood to make an impact in the industry.
What’s caused it?  Well, there’s a global recession you may have heard about which effects every industry but especially something as finite as comics.  There’s also raising prices for less content.
In some ways, the world is more driven towards comic than ever.  This year alone will see no less than five major movies based on comics before 2016 ends and right now there are dozens, dozens of popular TV shows based on comics.
The actual print monthly market is slowly sliding though.  It also doesn’t help that Marvel has had a near monopoly for near 10 years.  They’ve been squeezing the fanbase they have hard and in many ways, have set up a market where only the dedicated remain.
Not to say this is Marvel’s fault, if any other company were in the same position they may be doing the same.
Now, next month DC will certainty regain some strength with Rebirth which coupled along with Civil War II might actually nead to a (dare we dream?) top 20 or so that has 70k sales over more.
Will it last?  Time will tell as DC are clearly trying to get back some people that have left the industry while getting new readers in.
If it doesn’t work long term expect prices to continue going up and numbers continuing to fall…

Ray:  I definitely think we’re going to see a boost at the top of the charts for a while now, with the combination of Rebirth and all-new #1s for DC, and Civil War II presumably lifting all boats for Marvel. Will it last? DC, it may just if fans take to this new direction. Marvel…I’m sure it’ll fade off just in time for the next relaunch and temporary boost.

The bigger problem, though, is the overall charts and the many companies that can’t seem to get any traction. I wonder if this is just a product of the companies putting out more than ever before. We’ve got companies like Boom, IDW, and Dark Horse putting out 30-40 books a month, Image putting out 50, DC putting out 70, and Marvel putting out 80-100 on any given month. With this much product, there’s a cannibalization effect.

It might just be that the market as a whole doesn’t work for this level of product. Imagine if we still only had the standard network TV setup that TV started with, and there was the level of content that existed today. Countless great shows would get ignored because there was no space for them, or they had to compete with another fan favorite. That’s what’s going on with people forced to choose between taking a chance on a new creator-owned book like Art Ops, House of Penance, or Joyride, or their latest fix of Spider-Man or Batman.

It’s a rough dynamic right now, and I’m not really sure how to fix it, but I’m hoping there’s an innovator out there who will hit on a genius idea like streaming TV.

Glenn:  We’ll see what the long term holds for sure but for now, we all wait for the Rebirth next month, come join us.  We’ll have cake.
Enjoyed what you read?  Have any thoughts to add or suggestions?  Let us know and find us on Twitter @glenn_matchett & @raygoldfield

By the Numbers: April 2016

Like in any industry, comic books and their companies listen most to one thing and that’s your money! What does your money tell them? What does it tell us as fans? What series do people say they adore but can’t seem to catch a break and what books to people hate that sell out? What are the trends? What looks good? What looks rough?

All these questions and more will be answered here, every month in ‘By The Numbers’ by comic writers, editors and fans, Glenn Matchett and Ray Goldfield.

Glenn Matchett is a comic writer and editor. He’s worked in the industry for 6 years but grew up reading comics. He is currently published with Outre Press,Nemeses Studios and Alterna! He just read DC Rebirth an hour ago and is still trying to form coherent words in his mind.

Ray Goldfield is a fan of comic books for going on 25 years, starting with the death of Superman. He is a writer and editor for Grayhaven Comics and is working on his first novel. Ray also does a weekly roundup of DC comic reviews for website Geekmom and they’re brilliantly entertaining. When he told me that Rebirth’s implications were crazier than crazy, I laughed at him, laughed I say!  He’s currently visiting me every Thursday in Arkham Asylum cause Wednesdays are for comics.

We also do a podcast together with longtime buddy, Brandon James on iTunes with Rabbitt Stew or at the link here! Don’t ask, I didn’t pick the name. If you’d like to hear what me and Ray sound like, give it a listen!  The episode where we talk about this very sales charts in a little less detail is available here!

Full top 300 for April available here!

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Glenn: Greetings sales trackers!  Remember when Christmas was only like yesterday?  Well we’re already on April sales charts!  Marvel new releases have slowed down and Rebirth is still not here but is on the Horizon but it seems that April still had more than a few talking points and surprises.
Lets start off with the title that grabbed the top spot and this is one we were told was a big success by its publisher a few months ago.  Never one to hold back on a chance to tout their success, Marvel stated they received a massive number for Black Panther which is indeed the case as it lands at number one with sales over 253k.  This means that Black Panther was the second highest selling ANAD Marvel relaunch, just selling a shade less than Invincible Iron Man.
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This is a fantastic number for Black Panther who historically has never been a good seller.  The last regular Black Panther book would sell around 25k on a very, very good day but usually was in the 10-15k range and that was when the market was in a much healthier state than it is now.
The issue got a bunch of promotion, has Black Panther receive more exposure due to Secret War, a mainstream best selling author, answering a call for more diversity and oh yeah, a big part in that little known film, Civil War.  Really you couldn’t ask for better press and the results speak for themselves.  Will it stay around this level?  Likely not but myself and Ray estimate a fall to around 40-50k which is where most of the higher selling ANAD Marvel Now books (outside of Amazing and Deadpool) are.  This would be brilliant for a Black Panther title and would insure it a long and healthy print run.  Great to see!
Ray:  Black Panther is indeed an unprecedented sales success, although the projections came in quite a bit under original estimates. 300K would have been a world-breaker. This, though, still amazing that it beat Amazing Spider-Man’s relaunch and came within a hair of the first Bendis Iron Man issue. You mentioned a lot of the factors that led to its success, but this is what it looks like when you have a perfect storm of promotion and interest in a character, combined with a creative team with genuine mainstream appeal. I think it’ll fall hard, like every book has, of course, but I think it’ll end in the same range you do – which would put it in the top ten regular selling Marvel books. Amazing for a hero who hadn’t had a solo title for the last decade almost, but the same could be said for Dr. Strange. This is how you actually capitalize on movie attention – a fresh start with stories worth telling.
Glenn:  Next up is the first issue of another title from the most consistently powerful entity in the charts, Star Wars.  This month alone the Star Wars line has more titles in the top ten than anyone else.  After a year of their launch there is no stopping them and they land another best seller in the first issue of Poe Dameron at 2 with sales a shade over 175k.  This is the first comic being done in the new Force Awakens era so there was naturally going to be a lot of interest.  This was also the character that probably got the least screen time out of the new main cast introduced in Force Awakens so people will be interested in reading more about him.  I can see this book being another tip ten staple for Marvel as it essentially replaces Darth Vader on the schedule in a few months (more on that in a second).
Sticking with Star Wars for the time being, the next book the line has in the charts is the C-3PO one shot explaining the origins of his red arm in Force Awakens.  Selling just under 121k this is a great number for a book about a bunch of newly introduced droids.  As friend of the article Brandon James pointed out, I guess a lot of people wanted to find out how he got that red arm.
Ray:  Again, the sales on Poe Dameron were a bit down from the initial estimates. I wonder what went on there. This is still a massive success, though, and Star Wars seems to be able to do no wrong. Coming off the direct success of TFA, this was always going to be a smash hit.
The C3PO special may be even more impressive, though. This book was delayed for months and stars a popular but very much side character from the series. Still, it came close to Poe Dameron. I think this proves that anything directly associated with the movies is going to be gigantic for Marvel – but it’s more complicated, as we saw by the sudden cancellation of the Rogue One miniseries just a few days ago. As big as these comics are for Marvel, they’re peanuts for LucasFilm/Disney, and they’ll shut them down quickly if they’re worried. This makes me think the comics may stick more with the original trilogy timeline…
Glenn:  I remember seeing about the Rogue One comic and yes, I suppose you’re right.  If Disney doesn’t think that telling the stories in this form will warrant the attention they want, they’ll pull the plug.  I am curious though how long Marvel can churn out stories between New Hope and Jedi.
Speaking of which, the regular two Star Wars books, Star Wars and Darth Vader take the 7th and 8th spots selling just under 99k and 80k respectfully.  The first book, the main one in the line continues its slow descend with no real need for concern.  Even though Vader is a good shade under it now, its still a great stable seller and I don’t doubt Marvel saying it is merely ending due to story reasons and Kieran Gillans departure from Marvel come its 25th issue in a few months.  We can expect another ‘Dark Side’ book likely replacing it, maybe around the release of Rogue One, time will tell.
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All in all its just another month of Star Wars dominance.  When Rebirth hits, there will be some shuffling of their consistent top ten force choke hold but when all that hoopla settles down, I have a feeling the Star Wars line will be back in its currently immovably strong position.

Ray:  Yeah, the original books are still going strong. There hasn’t been a dud in the Star Wars line yet, sales-wise. The closest was Kanan, and that still did better than an animated tie-in would be expected to. So there will be no shortage of new SW books coming our way.

 Star Wars had more titles in the top ten this month than either DC or Marvel. That’s just surreal.
Glenn:  From Marvel’s most dependable line over to DC’s as we move back up the chart to the number 3 spot which has the fourth issue of Dark Knight III which sells just over 143k.  A great, solid performance for the premier format title which has suffered marginal delays.  Batman is where DC stands tall at the moment and this title in particular is one that people seem to be interested in due to its connection to Frank Millers original classic and is own potential future place in comics history.  With Rebirth around the corner, DC could potentially gain a strong position in the charts but books like this one are worth their weight in gold to the publisher currently.
Ray:  I mean, for all the controversy over these high-profile sequels to classic comics without the original creative team fully involved, they sell. They sell like crazy. So I expect we’ll see more sequels like this, but it’ll be hard to top a Batman one. And reception to TDKIII has been much warmer than I expected. It looks good compared to the second one, so that probably helps. It’s clear now that this will be dominant on the charts until it finishes it run.
Glenn:  Speaking of the Dark Knight’s strong outings, the final issue of Scott Snyder and Greg Capullo’s modern classic Batman run ends this month with sales just under 102k at 5.  They did it!  Every issue over 100k!  Something that we may never see again in our lifetime with the market in its current state and something that DC will solely miss in its calendar.  With either the new Batman title or Scott Snyder’s All Star Batman title be able to match its consistently?  Time will tell.  With this being the end to such a popular run and a one shot to boot, I’m surprised sales weren’t higher.  Perhaps retailers think that the next issue being written by new Detective writer James Tynion was the final issue of this creative teams run?  It’ll be interesting to see how issue 52 performs next month.
Ray:  As I’ve said before, I don’t know if we’ll ever see a success on this level for the Big Two again. 51 issues, all by the same creative team (with a few guest issues), all over 100K. It’s amazing. I think the sales drop this month is because a lot of people thought last month’s epic #50 issue was the finale. As for its successors, I do think All-Star Batman will probably hold over 100K for its run, assuming people don’t think it’s about Batman making Robin eat rats. The King/Finch/Janin biweekly Batman won’t hold these numbers, but I do think it can wind up around the same numbers as ASM consistently, which would be a big win for DC.
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Glenn:  Prior to its ending/unending absence, All Star Batman was still quite a sales draw despite its…oddities.  Its a weird brand to bring back after all this time but with the creative teams they have, I have no doubt it’ll be another solid performer for DC.
At number 6 we have Gwenpool selling over 100.8k.  Gwenpool.  I think I’ll let Ray sort this out while I get back to you know…respectable comics.
Ray:  *sigh* Gwenpool. This comic is hard to analyze sales-wise. Partially because my eyes are rolling back in my head as I speak in tongues when I think about how much I hated that first issue, but also partially because this character was marketed as the next extension of the Gwen Stacy crazy when in fact she is nothing of the sort. She’s an original character who seems to be more DC’s Harley Quinn than anything. Needless to say, this novelty meme character will not hold these numbers. She started high, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see her at Hellcat numbers in six months‘ time.
Glenn:  I’m hoping Marvel don’t overindulge too much and ruin what has people interested in Spider-Gwen.  Then again, we’ve just learned that Gwenverine is going to be a thing soon too so that ship might have sailed.
Another DC comic in the top ten is the Harley Quinn April Fools Special which hits 9 on the chart and sells just over 75k.  On the surface, that’s a decent number for a Harley Quinn one shot and within the usual range for her usual brand of one shots but this one was quite a bit different.
Although it wasn’t marketed as such, this issue was the first glimpse of the post Rebirth DCU, was the first issue by the new creative team and had Jim Lee on art.  Like many fans and retailers, I assumed this was another one shot by the regular Harley Quinn creative team in the spirit of their previous holiday themed one shots and didn’t know any different until a week previous.  This could be one that is heavily reordered when people realize its significance.  The other possibility is that retailers knew exactly what it was and ordered it in decent but unspectacular numbers which is…unsettling.
Ray:  Yeah, I’d say DC missed a big opportunity with this Harley Quinn special. I was taken aback as I read it, going “Hey, this is actually a really important book”. We’ve said this before, but this should have been the Free Comic Book Day issue. A current book, that serves to promote both the upcoming Suicide Squad movie and Rebirth? A slam dunk. Instead, it sort of slipped under the radar, but that was still good for about 75K sales, so no one’s crying.
Glenn:  Lastly in the top ten is Marvel’s biggest consistent selling superhero in Amazing Spider-Man which sells just over 73.6k.  It seems like that mysterious bump last month was just a fluke.  We’re now moving dangerously close to the possibility of all none number one of Star Wars Marvel books selling below 70k which would be troubling.  Fortunately for Amazing, Dead No More is coming and that’ll no doubt bump it up at least 10-15k or so during its duration.  The rest of the line has got Civil War to bump it up so right now, in the short term (where Marvel lives) there’s nothing to panic about.
Ray:  Yeah, ASM is holding  very well. This is where we see the top titles for both companies that seem to have stabilized in a very healthy position. Justice League is going to wrap up the only other run the same length as Snyder on Batman in May, and it’s stayed healthy throughout. The Darkseid War Special loses a good 10K in sales, but that’s still a very healthy number for an event tie-in. Walking Dead and Deadpool both seem to have stabilized in the mid-60K range as well, with the former being Image’s flagship book and Deadpool having firmly ensconced himself as Marvel’s #2 hero. I’m not sure why Deadpool #10 got a 7K bounce over #9, though. Deadpool and his weird math!
Glenn:  Considering how much lower the Darkseid War special sold under the main Justice League’s regular numbers (roughly 11k difference) the reasoning for having the special is puzzling.  It could possibly be just so Johns does end his run at 50 on the dot but its not as if ending on 51 hurt the sales on Batman much.  Its not a huge loss but 11k is 11k.
Ray:  Spider-Gwen got a very nice 10K bounce over her sales last month at #18. I would estimate that this is because of the Spider-Women crossover, except that Gwen did 10K over the event kickoff, Spider-Women Alpha, and roughly 20K over the Silk and Spider-Woman chapters. I’m always puzzled by how retailers order hard crossovers like this. You can’t just read the issues you want here, it’s a straight narrative. Either way, good to see Spider-Gwen rebound a bit. I wonder if she’ll be above Gwenpool by next month.
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Glenn:  Maybe retailers treated this as the ‘real’ first part of the crossover?  It is a puzzling one but yes, nice to see the book rebound either way.

Ray:  The latest incarnation of Moon Knight, by Jeff Lemire and Greg Smallwood, landed at #17 with 60K sales. I was worried that the sheer number of attempts at Moon Knight revivals would blunt this one’s sales, but the critical reception was excellent and this book seems to have gained some buzz. I’m not sure how long this creative team will stay on board, because it seems to be a very specific and finite story they’re telling, but I think it can probably hold on to about half these sales, which is healthy for a Moon Knight title.

Glenn:  Moon Knight needs to settle itself quickly to justify its existence but it might just do that, especially if Lemire intends to stick around a little.  The character has had a lot of stop and starts in recent years and a consistent, well received creative team would do him the world of good.  I say this will end up being a middle of the ground respectful 40-45k seller.

Ray:  Two titles, Spider-Man and Old Man Logan, seem to be selling about the exact same amount this month, but there’s a rather big difference between the two. OML holds at around 58-59K with issues 4-5. That’s after the initial three-month blind order, which means the book’s probably found it’s level. Spider-Man is only at issue three, which mean’s next month’s sales are the ones to watch.

Glenn:  Those are solid numbers for a Wolverine title, if it can stay around that I’m sure everyone involved will be well pleased.  Spider-Man might be more of a crapshoot but given these books and roughly about 70 trillion others are tying into Civil War in a few months, the numbers are going to go haywire across the board none the less.
Ray:  Hey, Mighty Morphin Power Rangers holds at 59K with issue two, at #22! That’s pretty impressive for a licensed Boom comic. No wonder there’s a spin-off and an annual coming! Don’t pull a Dynamite Pulp Heroes, Boom, but this is a very strong start.

Glenn:  I’m sure Boom is thrilled with that, that’s by far the biggest seller they’ve ever had.  If it stays around this level, it’ll be outselling a lot of Marvel books which could be argued have more of a modern day audience.  Who knew that Power Rangers was still a thing?  Hopefully they don’t get overconfident and flood us with Power Rangers comics but if they play it right with the movie coming up, they could have their own franchise to keep the lights on.

Ray:  Mark Millar’s latest creator-owned book, this one with Stuart Immonen, Empress, has a healthy debut at #26 with 55K. The difference is, this one is at Icon instead of Image. This shows that creators can still get some buzz for this small imprint, although I wonder what it would have sold with Image behind it. Everyone involved has to be happy, though.
Glenn: I’m sure retailers treated Empress for all intents and purposes as an Image book because if it wasn’t for Immonen’s contract it would be.  The Icon imprint has mainly survived to publish POWERS but this is a nice bonus for Marvel to have something like this which will fare very well collection wise once the movie is out.
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Ray:  Harley Quinn and the latest spin-off, Harley Quinn and the Gang of Harleys, do essentially identical numbers at #27-28. At this point, I wonder if retailers are just treating most of the spin-offs with the regular creative team involved as extra issues of this title? Harley seems to be very consistent.

Glenn:  Harley can do no wrong since her solo series comeback a number of years ago.  I think this shows that she can handle a bi-monthly book with no problems.  The market and fans love her and DC is sensible enough (on this book anyway) not to mess with what works.

Ray:  Thor and Dr. Strange, as we’ve talked about, are consistently some of Marvel’s stronger sellers, but I’m surprised to see Daredevil holding in there at #37 with 48K sales with issue six. This is stronger than the Waid run had been selling for a while, but the title seems to be gaining some buzz. Netflix bump?

Glenn:  Daredevil is a big surprise and I’m sure a very pleasant one for Marvel.  This could be because of Netflix or people being genuinely excited for Soule or *gasps* a relaunch actually benefiting a title.  This is the best Daredevil’s sold in quite some time and could end up being a surprise solid performer for Marvel at over 10k where it used to be.
Ray:  The conclusion of Avengers: Standoff landed at #35 with sales under 50K. Definitely not the sort of event numbers Marvel was hoping for. This is going to be forgotten quickly as Marvel heads towards Civil War II.

Glenn:  The main point of this mini event seems to have been to get Steve Roger’s back in costume. With the Captain America movie, you thought there would be more interest but perhaps it got drowned out with the oncoming flood of Civil War on the horizon. We’ve discussed how Cap’s book has struggled sales wise since the departure of Ed Brubaker but Marvel is making a big push on the latest book so, we’ll see but yeah, this little story will be seen as nothing more than a footnote at best.

The Doctor Strange: Last Days Of Magic one shot which ties into the story going on in the main book sells 10k less than the main title at 48. It seems to have been treated as an optional tie in to the overall story but then again, since it was priced at 5.99 (!!!!!!!) I doubt anyone at Marvel cares that it sold that much less than the main Doctor Strange book. To be frank, a loose non essential tie in priced at 5.99 is quite an achievement. You can look for more at these type of things from Marvel if they can shift them at this volume.

Ray:  Last Days of Magic was an anthology, more than 40 pages of story (which makes $5.99 not unreasonable…for Marvel), but only a short segment was written by Jason Aaron. Given that, I think these numbers are a pretty big success. It goes to show how Marvel has really made Dr. Strange a powerhouse again, and given this current storyline the vibe of an event in and of itself. Wondering how Deadpool: Last Days of Magic will do next month. Probably even better, because Deadpool!

Glenn:  People love their Deadpool, he’s not getting a third ongoing (counting his book with that guy…whatshisname…Spider-Guy) for no reason!

Both Batgirl and Flash get good bumps on their 50th issues selling just over 35 and 34,6 k at spots 51 and 52 on the charts. While Batgirl has been a critical darling for the latter half of its run, sales have been ebbing away so I’m sure DC will be glad to see a resurgance just prior to Rebirth. Flash hasn’t been the superstar performer that the Batman titles have been but its been a solid middle tier performer throughout its whole New 52 run. In a world where books end and relaunch all the time and sales go up and down like a yo-yo, solid mid 30k sellers can be a publishers bread and butter. It’ll be interesting to see how well Flash comes out of Rebirth with exceptionally talented indie writer Josh Williamson coming on board.

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Ray:  That’s definitely one of the bigger sale bumps for #50 issues for Batgirl. I’m a bit surprised, given that it was just a regular oversized issue with no guest creators. Same for Flash, although the bump was smaller there. Except for Catwoman (which got virtually no boost) and Batman (which got a huge one) all of these titles seem to have gotten a standard bump that goes away very quickly – Batgirl #51 is back to the standard level the same month.

Glenn:  I’ll wonder if they’ll get another brief bump for the 52nd issue or at that point, all eyes will be on Rebirth.  These are some popular runs ending on various books so retailers might order a few more due to that more than the numbering.

After a respectful but unspectacular debut, Black Widow lands at 54 with sales of just over 34k. That’s really good for her book historically so as long as it stays here, this can be seen as another relaunch win for Marvel. The reception to the first issue seemed to be lukewarm at best so hopefully people will continue picking it up on the strength of the creative team. This is where Waid and Samnee usually had their Daredevil run at which previous to the latest relaunch was standard but Black Widow at this level would be seen as a respectful success.

Ray:  Yeah, I expect after about six months or so, Black Widow will be down to the 25K range at most. Enough to stay alive as long as Waid and Samnee want it, but not that much above the title’s previous level with Edmondson/Noto. Some heroes just struggle with solo titles.

Glenn:  Black Widow, Green Arrow, Punisher are just three characters that struggle in sales regularly despite all three having huge other media presences currently.  If Black Widow can keep its creative team and they can recapture the critical acclaim they got for their Daredevil run, it’ll keep the book around.  Marvel probably expected more I would say but at least its not selling less than the previous run…

X-Men 92 and Mockingbird’s second issue sold just under Widow at 55 and 56 with sales under 34 and 33k respectfully. These titles are both in the same boat as Widow, if they maintain this level then it can be seen as a big win. I have more confidence in X-Men 92’s long term performance over Mockingbird but you never know, I expected a much sharper decline for her. We’ll see what the next few months bring.

Ray:  A bit surprised Mockingbird held so well, given its low first-issue sales. Apparently Marvel increased orders for the second and third issue, which might explain it. X-Men ’92 probably has a loyal but small audience that will keep it healthy enough for a while.
Glenn:  I didn’t know Mockingbird got increased orders.  It’ll be interesting to see where 4 lands then.
However, given Power Man and Iron Fist received another sharp drop on their third issue doesn’t inspire confidence. It goes down to 71 with sales over 24k which is starting to push the difference between an acceptable Heroes For Hire number and troublesome waters. This is another one that is confusing me, the market is becoming increasingly hard to predict.
Ray:  The critical acclaim for Power Man and Iron Fist made me think it might have legs, but this is disappointing. From top ten to #71 in three issues is rough, but at the same time, it’s selling above quite a few other Marvel books like Rocket Raccoon and Groot, that one would expect to be selling much better. This might just be all books that aren’t the A-team finding their new level.
Glenn:  All New Hawkeye ends with issue 6 even though no one knew this was going to be the last issue. It sells at 98 with sales over 21k. If Marvel had made it known that this was the last issue of the series for now, it might have got a few k more but then Marvel would have had to admit that they essentially had Lemire on one Hawkeye book that relaunched into an ‘ongoing’ that only lasted 6 issues. My head hurts.
Ray:  There’s apparently a new Hawkeye title coming after Civil War II: Minority Report. Rumor is Kate Bishop in the lead. We’ll see how it does based on the creative team and status quo.
IDW has a pretty decent launch with Micronauts at #75, selling about 25K. It had Cullen Bunn on writing and a ton of variants, but critical reception wasn’t great, so I expect it to drop down to the level of most licensed books soon.

104 is the cutoff point for books selling over 20K this month, a little better than last month, but still fairly grim.

Glenn:  The chart will see an overall uplift come the Rebirth/Civil War II Summer whirlwind.  We’ll have to see how we fare towards the end of the year when all that has died down.  DC will probably be in a moderately better position, Marvel will just be on the build for next years event which following their current pattern might be anything between Atlantis Attacks…Again or Super Maximum Security

Ray:  The last volume of Divinity from Valiant was critically acclaimed, so it’s not a surprise to see the second volume launch with strong (for Valiant) sales of 19.6K at 105. Valiant’s new books seem to be getting a bit of buzz, and we’ll see how their latest event, 4001 AD, does next month.

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Glenn: Again, Valiant seem to be the dark horses (not the publisher) of the current market.  Marvel, DC and Image get more headlines but they’re keeping their pace at a more than respectful level.

Ray: In a fairly shocking debut (in a good way), upstart publisher Black Mask lands a book pretty high on the charts with the critically acclaimed kid-criminal noir “4 Kids Walk into a Bank“. 17K sales is about what most Image books with no A-list names attached get, so that’s really impressive.

 

Glenn:  Good for Black Mask who I’ve seen garner a lot of buzz recently.  I think it was also recently announced they’re going to be publishing the Kickstarter mega success ‘Black‘ which will probably get a lot of sales and critical attention.  New blood is what will keep the industry going and its great to see new publishers among the bigger dogs.

Ray:  To illustrate how well 4 Kids did, there’s Brian Wood’s new Viking noir Black Road, three spots below with 16.5K in sales. I would have expected more from a new Image book from Wood.

 

Glenn:  Sometimes a premise, no matter who is creatively involved doesn’t seem to catch on.  Like all the rest of Image’s line, it’ll likely last as long as Wood can keep it going.  If it settles around this figure, it could last a respectable length.  It sold more than Chew’s Chicken Poyo one shot (184 with sales just over 10.4k) and Chew is seen as a solid performer for Image that will see its 60 issue run through.  It’ll all depend on trade sales too of course.

Ray:  We’ve talked to no end about Dark Horse’s struggles on the sales charts as of late, and their top-selling book this month is Aliens: Defiance, with sales of just over 16K. This is a #1, though, and last month’s Predator #1 lots a third of its sales in its sophomore outing.

 

Glenn:  Just read their VP is leaving.  In ten years time, Dark Horse could be an unfortunate note in comic history as a company that was irrevocably damaged by the loss of their biggest property.  I would have thought with it being Aliens 30th anniversary, they might have managed to get a little interest because it worked for Back To The Future but seemingly not.
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Ray:  Surprising absolutely no one, Hyperion is down to cancellation numbers with #2, selling 16K in sales. You just can’t do spinoffs when the parent title is barely holding on to its sales.

Glenn:  Civil War will keep it tricking along (I think its tying in…everything else is) but I don’t see it lasting long after that.

Ray:  New Image comedy crime book The Fix sold just under 15K at #140. I would have expected more given that this is written by a Marvel writer who has recently been given the key to one of their top franchises, but then those books have been underperforming for him as well.

 

Glenn:  Nick Spencer of course is best known for Morning Glories which performs well in trades and is seen as a solid Image performer.  Outside of that, I can’t think of too many books he’s partook in that have exactly set the sales charts on fire.  He keeps getting verly high profile gigs and seems to be well thought of so he must be making someone happy.

Ray:  Oh, look, there’s Bloodlines, DC’s attempt to revive their 90s alien spinal-tap thriller as a modern teen horror drama. Just under 15K in sales is about what I’d expect here. 90s nostalgia is all well and good, as we see with Power Rangers, but there has to be some actual nostalgia for the property.

Glenn:  I don’t know what Bloodlines is…it seems not many other people do either

Ray:  Speaking of 90s nostalgia, the latest X-Files relaunch doesn’t seem to have gotten a big boost from the recent TV revival. 14.7K sales at #142.

 

Glenn:  X-Files has resurfaced as a TV juggernaut but while it has had a lot of merchandise, spin offs and whatnot, its not the type of thing that fans for to see more of elsewhere.  They want more episodes of the show but aren’t willing to settle for pseudo episodes in comic or novel form and that seems to be the way its always been for the property.  It’ll probably settle down to about 7 or 8k and maybe earn IDW some money through main book shops.

Ray:  Marvel’s doing a series of one-shot anthology stories, “A Year of Marvels“, focusing on different months of the year, with more volumes coming throughout the year. It seems to have completely slipped under the radar, with sales of 12.7K at 161. But hey, it outsold Hellcat, Moon Girl, and Weirdworld!

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Glenn:  I honestly thought you were joking until I double checked.  Not sure what they expected out of this, I’m not quite sure what a book like this will be able to achieve.  It doesn’t seem to be for kids and since I’ve never heard of it, can’t have been spouted too heavily.  Pure head scratcher this one.

Ray:  Former Catwoman writer Genvieve Valentine is writing a Xena relaunch comic from Dynamite, and I expected it to at least do the same numbers as Red Sonja given the fanbase of the series. Surprisingly, not even close, with sales of 11.3K at #176. That has to be seriously disappointing for Dynamite.

 

Glenn:  There’s been a lot of talk about some sort of reboot of Xena which has garnered a little interest.  Maybe Dynamite should have held their water?  Its another under performing TV tie in that has a market currently full of them in short.  Given how prominent Valentine was at DC last year, I hope she manages to rebound from this.
Ray:  Matt Kindt has a new #1 from Dark Horse, the deep-sea murder mystery Dept. H. This had months of hype, tons of promotions, and rapturous critical acclaim…only to sell 9.3K and barely make the top 200. I don’t know why Dark Horse can’t get momentum for their creator-owned books, because they have a bunch of great talent turning out a few incredible books, but it’s depressing. Makes me wonder what the fate of Jeff Lemire’s much-delayed Black Hammer will be when it arrives. And I hope Dept. H. does well in reorders and trades. For the record, this was Dark Horse’s fifth-highest selling comic of the month.

Glenn: I think its just Dark Horse’s position more than anything.  Given how high Lemire’s star has risen, Black Hammer could buck the trend but if they can only do these numbers with a well known creator, you have to wonder what they are planning to do to turn things around.  Even if Lemire’s book sells amazingly well, the whole company cannot float on one book.  Dark Horse has been around longer than Image, has held their own for the madness that was the 90’s.  Can they rise up like a phoenix?  It doesn’t seem likely.

Titan releases the first issue of another Doctor Who mini, this time focusing on the Ninth Doctor played by Christopher Eccleson when the super popular sci-fi show made its return in 2005.  Given that most fans now are more familiar with Tennant, Smith and Capaldi, a lot of people have a fondness for Ecclesons tenure.  It lands with sales just over 10.5k at 183 which is decent enough for the Doctor that is often overlooked in favour of his successors.
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Ray:  Titan seems to have carved out a nice little niche for itself with tie-ins to media properties, with Doctor Who being the most successful of them. As our resident Doctor Who expert, you would know that these are pretty impressive numbers, and those Dark Souls numbers aren’t very bad either. I’m a bit surprised not to see their Independence Day series on the charts this month – probably bad timing, as it would have sold much more once the sequel is released.
Glenn:  They’re probably thinking it might be better to get the collection out in time for the movie.  I doubt many people are wanting more stories set in that world though (does I mean the movie, comic or both?  YOU DECIDE!)
Another debut from IDW in Strawberry Shortcake hits at just over 10k at 187.  Considering I’ve never heard of it and it seems to be by names I don’t recognize, that’s not too bad.  It’ll probably not last long in the top 300 though.
Ray:  Strawberry Shortcake? They’re really reviving every 80’s nostalgia property, aren’t they? These numbers are nothing special, but I assume they’re not going for the direct market here, instead marketing this in toy stores and the like.
I’m not sure if Star Wars resurgence has made everyone raid they catalog to see what else they might have that people might still be interested in but there are a lot of nostalgia books on the market currently.  Some companies like Boom are winning out on doing this while most just seem to be misfires.
Glenn:  We also have Grizzly Shark, the silly ott comic from Ryan Ottely, artist of Invincible.  It sells just over 10k at 188 as well which is what you would expect for a book that just seems to be a bit of fun for the creator.  This book sells roughly what Invincible would I think so its likely a lot of overflow here due to Ottely’s art.
Ray:  I remember when Grizzly Shark debuted, paired with Sea Bear. Those are fairly decent numbers for what is essentially a novelty comedy property, yeah. Definitely enough to keep going at Image.
Glenn:  Rough Riders from new (?) publisher Aftershock debuts at just 8k.  That’s pretty damn good for a new publisher I’ve never heard of.  I would say that most of the units can be accounted for the fact that longtime Marvel/DC workhorse, Pat Olliffe is on art.  Olliffe has never been a big draw but he’s always solid and might be enough to get people to check out this book.  The 1.99 price point probably helped it to land a spot at 203
Just below it at 204 is a new Star Trek mini bridging the gap between the previous movie and the one out in a few weeks that is definitely coming out, even if it doesn’t seem to be garnering that much buzz.  It sells just over 8.5k.  Star Trek has seemingly firmly lost in the great battle with Star Wars in terms of comics anyway.  We have the movie this year and a show coming next year but I doubt it’ll do much to draw up major interest in the franchise like the Force Awakens did for Star Wars.
Ray:  I thought Star Trek might get a boost in sales from the recent GL crossover, but it seems not, despite a new series teased in the finale of that series. It’s always been a bit more of a niche property than Star Wars.
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Glenn:  The first issue of the newest Dark Tower mini kicks off at 210 with sales just over 8k.  There was a time, many moons ago when this book was a best seller but those days are long past.  I would say the collections do decent enough business to continue the book.  I still wonder if Marvel intends on adapting all the books because, if they do then they might just run out readers before all is said and done.  The movie starring Idris Elba will help shift a few collections at least.
Ray:  I had honestly forgotten Marvel was even putting out these Dark Tower minis. They always do far, far better in collections than in singles, so I imagine the same will continue here.
Glenn:  Based off the mega difficult video game, Dark Souls 1 debuts just below that at 211 at just over 8k too.  This is a video game that it famous for not pandering to a general audience and unless it stars Batman, video game adaptions don’t tend to set the chart on fire.
Ray:  This is where we see the grimmest numbers for Marvel and DC books, with both Omega Men and Red Wolf hanging on outside the top 200 as they wrap up their runs. Of course, they sell about the same numbers, and Red Wolf is on issue #5 while Omega Men is on #11, so that’s especially grim for Marvel’s entry. And then well below it, you have Starbrand and Nightmask at #256 with 5.6K sales. The way some of these Marvel books are sinking at record speed is really shocking.
Glenn:  Those sales are crazy, have we ever seen sales that low for a Marvel book since we’ve been doing this? I’m not sure what else they could have expected though from books starring little known characters that were thrown out with a bunch of other stuff. Hopefully with rumblings of yet another relaunch (please no, please) after Civil War, Marvel will make better decisions with the characters that get assigned books.
Update:  Yes there’s another relaunch coming.  Huzzah.
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Ray:  Looks like it’s time to shake our heads at Dark Horse’s misfortune again! House of Penance, their much-hyped historical horror title by DC Comics creator Pete Tomasi was only able to muster 7.7K sales at #221. Grim. There’s not much more to say here, especially as both this and Dept. H were high-quality titles with a lot of promise.

Glenn:  Tomasi has had some high profile gigs in the recent past and is now at part of DC’s big Rebirth relaunch and its like watching a tumbleweed blow past.  Sad times.

Ray:  This is where we start to see a lot of creator-owned titles without big names attached that try to find their way in the market. At 223, we have Oni’s heart-transplant crime thriller Heartthrob, which sold 7.4K, a decent debut. Four spots lower is Boom’s much-hyped teen detective period piece Goldie Vance, which I expected a bit more out of given the previews and acclaim. This will make its money in bookstores, though. And at #235, selling just under 6.8K, we have post-apocalyptic teen adventure Joyride from Boom, which is written by part of the Batman and Robin Eternal creative team and drawn by Marcus To. Given that creative wattage, I really expected it to be higher. Boom puts out a ton of quality content, but they still have a bit of trouble getting retailers to buy in.

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Glenn:  Booms getting there slowly but surly but space in shops in precious and with so many things being thrown out from Marvel, DC and yes, even Image it does mean that some of the other publishers will suffer.  On paper, Joyride sounds like it should be doing a lot better but when retailers have a choice of selling this over a book that might be more creatively devoid but is an easy sell, they have to go with the title that has more odds of them letting them keep the lights on.  Its a sad affair and its like seeing a Michael Bay movie beat out something with a million times more quality just cause explosions.  Hopefully Boom keeps playing the long game and can hang in there, they seem to have a strong presence in the collection market which is how Image built up its current position over time.

Ray:  Dynamite’s latest attempt to make the Gold Key characters sell, Gold Key Alliance, lands with a thud at 244, with sales of 6.5K. Given that it turned out to be out of continuity with their last take on the characters a year or two back, I can’t say I’m surprised. If they want the benefits of a shared universe, they need to commit to it. Better yet, Valiant should make them an offer.

Glenn:  If you try, try again to get a property to work and it just isn’t, its not out of the question for a company to consider selling on and cutting its losses.

Ray:  Image just announced that their reboot of the Witchblade franchise, Switch, would be coming to an end in August. Given these sales of just over 6K with issue #3, I can’t say I’m surprised.

…Oh, hey, there’s a Three Stooges comic at #259. That’s interesting, and sales of just under 6K are about what I’d expect for a franchise that had its heyday seventy years ago.

 

Glenn:  They failed to move those copies, chowderhead.  I wonder if when this property was up for grabs how one could imagine making a company think they might get any sort of fanbase for it.  Next up, Laurel and Hardy!

Ray:  In the oddest crossover of the year, Dynamite has a crossover between Twilight zone and The Shadow, which sells 5.2K at #273. Dynamite’s “Something’s gotta work” strategy continues to have mixed results.

The two editions combined, the Criminal 10th anniversary magazine sells about 15K, with 10K from the regular edition and 5K from the standard edition. That’s not bad for a book that’s been gone for quite a while as the creative team worked on other properties.

 

Glenn:  Criminal’s creative team of Ed Brubacker and Sean Phillips have their own very dedicated audience.  This is a respectable number on one of their older properties in an unusual format.  I’d say that the new Image book they’re doing that was in the most recent solits will become another one of Image’s healthy performers.

Ray:  Long-time Image property Hawaiian Dick makes a comeback with a new mini, selling just over 5K at #277. These cult-favorite Image books often struggle on the charts, but I’m guessing that’s because retailers know exactly who’s buying it by now and don’t over-order.

 

Vertigo’s fast slide off the charts continues this month, with Red Thorn joining the rest in the sub-300 category, Survivor’s Club looking to join them next month, and miniseries The Dark and The Bloody getting close to the danger zone as well. Aside from Lucifer and Astro City, the line doesn’t have any properties selling over 7K anymore, as even Gail Simone and Tom King dip below that mark.
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Glenn:  You might think its the last days of Vertigo but as we discussed in our podcast, Rabbitt Stew (bong!), they’re still announcing books.  DC may have tainted Vertigo for a while with the dismissal of Shelly Bond who was one of the lines original editors.  If the Young Animal relaunch goes well, we might see what would have been Vertigo books under that banner instead.  The most basic marketing premise is if an item isn’t working, the first thing you do is change the name.  Vertigo books might find new life under a new banner.
As we reach the bottom the charts there’s one more launch from IDW in Hot Damn at 287 with sales just over 4.6k.  Looks like an oddball title from the same creative team that did another IDW creator owned booked called ‘D4ve‘ which I’ve only learned the existence of.  Not expecting to see this one next month in the top 300.
Its another pretty standard month with a few causes for celebration and much call for sadness.  Next month looks to be more of the same with nothing really major
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*answers door*
AHHHHHHHHHHH *gets attacked by power of Rebirth and Civil War II combined*
Ray:  *quickly digs Glenn out from event comic attack*

Yeah, all in all, this coming month is not that filled with new releases – with two BIG exceptions. Clearly topping the charts will be DC Universe Rebirth #1, which is the launching point for the future of the DCU, is priced at $2.99 for 80 pages of story, and yet may be under-ordered given massive spoilers that will be widely known by the time this article goes live. Spoilers such as the return of [CENSORED], the true identity of [CENSORED], that big reveal about [CENSORED], and of course, the truth about [CENSORED CENSORED CENSORED]. I could easily see this going to 500K copies or higher. That’s really DC’s only debut of note this month, although I’d be interested to see how JL #50 and Superman #52 do, given that they lead directly into Rebirth. From the fringes of DC, we’ll also see how the first of the Hanna-Barberra titles, Future Quest and Scooby Apocalypse, fare in the direct market.

 

Nothing will compete with Rebirth, but I expect a healthy debut as well for Civil War #0, which will easily take the #2 slot. I am wondering, however, how big it will be given the very odd release style of this story. This issue takes place before the events of the Civil War FCBD issue, with Civil War II #1 officially launching the event next month, but all the issues are by the main creative team. Will retailers treat the #0 issue as the official start of the event, or will we see smaller-than expected numbers followed by a huge debut for #1?

Besides the big gun, Marvel does have a few interesting debuts this month, including a new Punisher series by Cloonan and Dillon, a Deadpool one-shot tying in to Doctor Strange, another likely doomed Squadron Supreme spin-off in Nighthawk, a new Daredevil/Punisher mini, the official return of Steve Rogers to the Captain America title, and a new Thunderbolts title that has gotten mixed reviews. We’ll see how they do, but I’m expecting mixed results. Except for Deadpool.

From indie books, there’s a few interesting launches. Brian Azzarello attempts to turn a Beer tie-in into an Image book with 3 Floyds: Alpha Kings, Simon Spurrier launches spider-themed crime comic Weavers from Boom (which is completely non-Spider-Man related), and Oni launches the only sci-fi cooking competition comic on the stands with Space Battle Lunchtime.

 

Besides DC and Marvel’s big debuts, the company that seems primed for a big month is Valiant, launching their next big event comic 4001 AD. Their last event, the Book of Death, was a huge hit, and that’s a high bar for this one to reach, but early reviews have been excellent.

That’s about it for May. The calm before the storm, when Rebirth officially hits in June and the Civil War II tie-ins start rolling out in earnest.

Glenn:  That’s a lot of censorship, here at By The Numbers we think about our readers delicate ears…I mean eyes.

Rebirth is essentially a promotion comic with a huge comic length with some of DC’s top talent all for 2.99, the numbers are going to be insane.  They may have phoned it in on FCBD but they look to be making it up in spades here.
Its going to be a crazy month but nothing compared to what we have coming up.  Lets just say, if we turned this article into a drinking game of new DC books and Civil War Tie Ins, our readers would be very drunk…more so than usual.
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See you next month!

Is Disposable Heroes Back as Island Earth?

Being a comic fan is not cheap.  I have a relatively small monthly pull list as I get most of my books via collections but even then I spent likely around £30-40 on comics each month alone.  In the states, companies are now continually pushing fans to the limit on how much they can charge and still get away with it.  In my monthly ‘By The Numbers’ article with fellow super fan, Ray Goldfield (who spends in a week on comics what one would maybe spend on buying a small island or five) we’ve been noticing an unsettling trend. Comics are getting more expensive but the top selling books are also the most expensive. Marvel Comics, the biggest publisher in the industry currently are firing out $3.99 comics as standard and are releasing more and more books charging $4.99, 5.99 and yes even more, especially on key issues they know people will want.

That expense has given rise to online discount shops that are prevalent in the United States but not so much elsewhere.

In stepped Disposable Heroes Comics, a Belfast based online store run by Darren McRoberts that provided the ability to order comics three months in advance with a discount and for year the service provided exceptional service.

Then last November or December I noticed I wasn’t getting my comics any longer.  They just stopped coming and unlike previous times I had e-mailed him, Darren did not respond to my e-mails. I had only met him in person at a local comic con in October where he said that his business was flourishing and he had big plans to frequent other cons in the UK in Europe and set up an actual physical shop.

I naturally thought something was wrong and it did seem like something was. It turned out other people from all over the UK whom Disposable Heroes supplied were also not getting their comics.  The story was so significant and the disappearance so sudden that it warranted an article on another comic news site.

No one knew what happened, the eBay shop Disposable set up was emptied and the website they had shut down. They also had money for comics I had ordered the rest of that month and the following two months. I was potentially out around £100 ($140 or so) and I knew there was many others out potentially hundreds more. I was fortunate enough to get my money back with a Paypal claim but I believe there’s some people still out there that weren’t so lucky.

Flash forward to April 7th, when I received an e-mail from a new company, Island Earth Comics with a subject line that read ‘ISLAND EARTH:  WERE YOU AN EX-DISPOSIBLE HEROES CUSTOMER?’

Below is the full text of the email:

DID YOU LIKE THEIR SERVICE UP UNTIL THE END OF 2015?

WE WERE REGULAR CUSTOMERS OF DISPOSABLE HEROES COMICS UNTIL THINGS ALL WENT A LITTLE ‘BOOBS UP’ AT THE START OF THIS YEAR. HOWEVER WE JUST COULD NOT  FIND ANOTHER RETAILER OFFERING THE SAME KIND OF SERVICE, PRODUCT RANGE, PRICING AND MOST OF ALL WEBSITE. LIKE US YOU PROBABLY WERE FORCED TO GO BACK TO HUNTING THROUGH EBAY WEEK AFTER WEEK SPENDING UP TO AN HOUR TRYING TO PICK UP OUR COMICS. THESE REALLY HAVE BECOME  DARK TIMES INDEED!

SO WE THOUGHT TO OURSELVES THAT IF NOBODY ELSE COULD FILL THE VOID THEY LEFT BEHIND THEN MAYBE WE SHOULD. AND SO HERE WE ARE! THE LAST 2 MONTHS HAVE BEEN SPENT TRYING TO GET HOLD OF THEIR OLD STOCK AND FINALLY AFTER NUMEROUS E-MAILS, OFFERS AND COUNTER OFFERS WE HAVE FINALLY CLOSED THE DEAL AND ARE NOW IN POSSESSION OF TONNES OF COMICS, POPS, TOYS AND MORE. WE ALSO HAVE ACCESS TO THEIR WEBSITE DESIGN AND BACK OFFICE SOFTWARE.

ISLAND EARTH COMICS INTEND TO PROVIDE YOU WITH THE SAME, IF NOT BETTER, SERVICE THAT DISPOSABLE HEROES PROVIDED WITHOUT ALL THE MADNESS WE HAVE SEEN AT THE TURN OF THE YEAR. RIGHT NOW WE ARE RUNNING OFF A BASIC WEBSTORE WHILE WE HAVE THE DHC WEBSITE RE-JIGGED FOR OUR USE. THIS WILL ALLOW US TO RUN THE GOOD OLD ‘SEMI-SUBS’ THAT SAVED US SO MUCH TIME WHEN PRE-ORDERING. ONCE THE DHC SITE IS CONVERTED TO OURS IT WILL BE USED AS A STOP GAP AS WE SCRATCH BUILDING OUR OWN WEBSITE WITH ALL THE SAME FEATURES DHC HAD PLUS IMPROVEMENTS ON WHAT WE LOVED, REVAMPS OF WHAT WE HATED AND MORE FEATURES.

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE JUST ‘SOFT LAUNCHED’ PRE-ORDERS FOR JUNE 2016 RELEASES FOR BOTH MARVEL AND DC. DROP US AN E-MAIL IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO PRE-ORDER ANY TITLES OUTSIDE OF MARVEL AND DC. WE CAN GET THEM ADDED TO THE SITE FOR YOU. WE WILL LIST JULY PRE-ORDERS FOR ALL PUBLISHERS SOON. THIS IS BEING USED AS A TEST OF SORTS TO DETERMINE IF WE CAN JUST TRADE VIA OUR WEBSITE OR IF WE NEED TO TRADE ON (cringe) EBAY.

WE WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF YOU WOULD GIVE US A CHANCE TO FILL THE GAP DHC LEFT BEHIND. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CHECK OUT OUR WEBSITE, FACEBOOK PAGE AND ALSO GET IN CONTACT WITH ANY SUGGESTIONS OR THINGS YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE ON THE NEW SITE BY EMAILING US AT [address removed].

AND LASTLY APOLOGIES FOR WHAT WILL HAVE APPEARED AS A RANDOM RAMBLING E-MAIL FORM A RANDOM BUSINESS. SHOULD YOU NOT WISH TO RECEIVE ANY MORE FROM US THEN PLEASE CLICK THE LINK BELOW AND WE WILL DELETE YOU FROM ANY FUTURE E-MAILS WE SEND.

Beyond the spelling errors, the all caps, and odd choice in some of the content, something just didn’t pass the smell test. Was this just Disposable Heroes Comics rebranded?

I now knew I would not have nothing to do with Island Earth as there was too many questions left unanswered. So on April 13th I sent them a little e-mail which involved some questions.

To whom it may concern

My name is Glenn Matchett, I was a loyal customer with Darren at Disposable Heroes for four years.  Like many who shopped with him, I was saddened to see the brilliant service vanish along with some money I later had to get from eBay/Paypal.  While I am excited to hear about a similar business pop up I have some natural concerns.

I am also an article writer for comic website Graphic Policy.  I would like for the sake of clarity to ask you a few questions.  Like many other former Disposable Heroes customers, I am currently airing on the side of caution.  There are a few elements to your story that I also would like clarification on.  If you would be so good to answer the following for the article, it would be greatly appreciated.

1)  At no point in this email do you state your name(s) could you introduce yourself to us?

2)  In your e-mail, you mention a private transaction with Darren, the former owner of Disposable Heroes for his stock.  Several people including other comic news sites were unable to contact him, could you provide information about how you managed to get a response?

3)  There are many people still owed money from Darren, will the purchases they paid for in the stock you received be subsequently provided upon proof of purchase?

4)  If not, what advise do you suggest the people that have had their money taken take?

5)  Are you aware of what caused Disposable Heroes to suddenly stop trading?

6)  How do you believe you can avoid the same?

7)  Again with the sum that was paid to Darren for the back stock, do you believe its fair to pay someone for items that may have already been paid for to an individual who seemingly abandoned thousands of customers with no explanation?

8)  How was the capital raised to start this business?

9)  If you received investor backing of any sort to start your company, did you provide a standard 5 year business plan?  If you did would you be willing to provide this upon request?

10) Even if you didn’t and don’t have a business plan do you not think that is essential when starting up a business?

11)  What experience do you have in running any kind of business?

12)  In your e-mail you mention running an identical service in regards to DHC’s semi sub service.  This was a service I have not seen elsewhere.

  1. a) How are you coding this to your site?
  2. b) Is this something you also got in your purchase of DHC’s stock?
  3. c) Since I have been unable to find another site in the UK have you checked to make sure that Darren himself has not trademarked it for himself?

13)  Is there any involvement in this new enterprise from anyone who used to work for DHC?

14)  Are you currently registered to trade as a sole trader, responsible for paying business tax as is per current Government legislation?

15)  If it is registered can you state the name who the business is registered under?

16)  On your site, in the our story section you do not discuss your past as a disgruntled DHC customer.  You have used this claim to attempt to gain new customers here, is there any reason that not even an allusion to your backstory you present here is not included on your site?

16)  Your site claims you reside in Belfast as did Darren from DHC.  Can you explain why another individual from Belfast has taken it upon themselves to do an identical business model as Darren (also from Belfast) did?

17)  For whatever reason, the previous way this company ran ultimately folded at the drop of a hat with no explanation to this day.  How can you reassure that history will not repeat itself?  You are asking people to give you money for items they will not receive for months, how can you offer your potential customers reassurance?

18)   Your site also states that you intend to open a physical comic shop in Belfast which I believe was also Darren’s intention prior to his late 2015 disappearance.

  1. a)  Do you think that is wise when this company is just starting in itself?  Its not as if you have four-five years of solid trading behind you such as DHC as and your initial start up costs will be rather hefty.
  2. b) Planning an opening of a store will incur even more costs to yourself, this seems like a lot of output for a start up business.  Do you foresee yourself being able to turn a profit and keep this business sustainable for those who are trusting you with their money?

I think that’s all I have for now, I may have follow up questions based on your answers which I look forward to seeing.

Some of the questions were hard hitting but the fact of the matter was that Island Earth had come to me for potential business. They were the ones who had mentioned a connection to Disposable Heroes and if I had done the same, I would expect to be able to answer the above questions quite easily.

Even providing a name would have installed some confidence. A few days past, I had no reply but I did discover a Facebook page set up by former customers of Disposable Heroes who had misgivings about Island Earth’s e-mail also.  They said that a shop on eBay ‘Funkfury’ was trying to sell most of the stock that had belonged to Disposable. After being accused of such, the shop soon vanished and Island Earth popped up. The group believes that the same individual that was fronting Funkfury and Island Earth was the one and same.  I was given a name but since this is not something I can verify as Island Earth did not reply to me to introduce themselves I thought I had to treat it as hearsay.

On April 20th I sent them another e-mail.

To whom it may concern

Last week I sent you some questions in regards to your intentions to provide a similar service to Disposable Heroes

I have not heard a response from yourselves.  I intend to write up an article regarding your website and your intentions on Monday.

If you wish to still answer the questions, I would be happy to include them.

Many thanks.

Still nothing.  Not even a name.

Add on top of their going out of their way to obfuscate even basic information like who owns the website. Compare Disposable Heroes’ Whois information to that of Island Earth.

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I’m not one to cost people business, especially small companies. As I said, my mother owned her own business for years prior and after my birth, I know how hard she worked 24 hours a day, seven days a week. I also don’t like people potentially being taken advantage of, especially in an industry I love and where you spend your money is becoming more important as the price of being a fan keeps going up and up. I want people who want to do business with Island Earth to make an informed decision.  You may receive an exceptional service or you might find yourself one day, out of the blue asking where are those comics you paid for three months ago.

It happened to me and as I have learned the hard way.  Once bitten, twice shy and Fool me once, shame on you.  Fool me twice, shame on me.

Stay tuned for updates as the story progresses.

By The Numbers: March 2016

Like in any industry, comic books and their companies listen most to one thing and that’s your money! What does your money tell them? What does it tell us as fans? What series do people say they adore but can’t seem to catch a break and what books to people hate that sell out? What are the trends? What looks good? What looks rough?

All these questions and more will be answered here, every month in ‘By The Numbers’ by comic writers, editors and fans, Glenn Matchett and Ray Goldfield.

Glenn Matchett is a comic writer and editor. He’s worked in the industry for 6 years but grew up reading comics. He is currently published with Outre Press,Nemeses Studios and Alterna! He’s very excited because The Immortals are coming.

Ray Goldfield is a fan of comic books for going on 25 years, starting with the death of Superman. He is a writer and editor for Grayhaven Comics and is working on his first novel. Ray also does a weekly roundup of DC comic reviews for website Geekmom and they’re brilliantly entertaining. His birthday was this month and he just wishes those damned kids would get off his lawn.

We also do a podcast together with longtime buddy, Brandon James on iTunes with Rabbitt Stew or at the link here! Don’t ask, I didn’t pick the name. If you’d like to hear what me and Ray sound like, give it a listen!  The episode where we talk about this very sales charts in a little less detail is available here!

Full top 300 for March available here!

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Glenn:  Its time for March madness and another sales chart!  This month may have been relatively quiet for big launches but this was the month where DC released the majority of the 50th issues of the titles that have managed to last the test of time since the launch of the new 52.  Regulars all know how the industry loves these type of things so might make things interesting.
Or will it?
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At first glance, yes as the top spot for March 2016 is the undisputed sales king, Batman 50 by Snyder and Capullo.  This marks 50 issues in a row where this title has manages sales of over 100k with this month pulling in over 163k.  It really can’t be said enough how amazing this is.  Given how fickle the market is currently, this is something we may not see ever again from any creative team and certainty not anytime soon.
This issue had a lot going for it along with its number like the return of Bruce Wayne to the title role and the end of the long running ‘Super Heavy’ story.  Still that should not take anything away from this team and what they have achieved.  The Bat line has been a big help to DC in their fight against Marvel and this book has been leading the charge the whole time.
Ray:  Yeah, this issue of Batman was essentially a perfect storm. A critically acclaimed run, a much-hyped issue that has both the significant number and a huge event in the story, and that adds up to a huge 50% sales increase. As we’ll see later, very few of the other anniversary issues had this kind of significant bump, but everything went right here. And with these numbers, I’m certain that we’ll see Snyder/Capullo stay above 100K for their final issue in April.
Glenn:  I have no doubt about that.  I’m sad to see them go (as no doubt are DC) but they deserve to go out on a high which they no doubt will.
In an astonishing turn of events, the first issue of Boom’s Mighty Morphin’ Power Rangers takes the second spot with sales of over 119.5k  This is Boom’s highest launch ever in the market and its just floored me how well its done.  I had thought that the peak of the Power Rangers popularity was long gone and at best, this book would launch around 40-50k or so.  It seems that 90’s nostalgia is alive and well.  Could retailers have been overeager on their orders?  Perhaps but I don’t think this is the product of guess work.  Its a big cause for celebration at Boom and I’ll be interested to see how many of these sales they can hang onto.
Ray:  The massive success of Power Rangers is a bit of a puzzle, but we’ve seen 90’s nostalgia come back in big form lately. Power Rangers has been a concept that has been extremely durable – it’s still on the air in some form, although it bears virtually no resemblance to the original “Ordinary kids become superheroes” show and now tends to hop genre quite regularly. This back-to-basics series featuring the original cast may have been exactly what fans wanted, and bodes well for the movie next year. I do think a host of variant covers certainly helped here, but this is clearly Boom’s first major hit.
Glenn:  Number 3 on the other hand is no surprise with the 17th issue of Star Wars with sales of over 107k.  Its Star Wars, it sells and as usual is on a very slow downward trend.  The book probably has another 8-10 months of slow sliding to do before Marvel probably has to give it any attention to get interest beefed up again and by that point, Rogue One will be out so they’ll have their job done for them.  At this point, these comics is almost literally like printing money.
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Ray:  Star Wars…what more can be said? Three in the top ten, easily the most durable franchise currently across multiple books. With Poe Dameron coming out in April, it’s likely that from here on out, Marvel will have three or four Star Wars books in the top ten each month – which may be enough to make up a plurality of the top ten books! This is easily the biggest bright spot that’s going to keep them in the #1 slot despite all the other problems they’re having.
Glenn:  The 50th issue of Superman gets the number 4 spot with sales over 91k.  This is the highest we’ve Superman chart since the launch of the new 52 and its surprising, even with the big anniversary issue number on the surface.  The response to the direction of Superman following the launch of the new 52 has been lukewarm at best and as a result, the sales on Action and this title have been lacking.  However this issue sees the meet up between new 52 Superman and the version of the character from the previous universe starring in critical favorite, Lois and Clark.  It also is the first issue written by Peter Tomasi who has been cutting his teeth on the Bat line for a while and is due to be taking over this title following Rebirth.  All this equates to a top ten number it seems!
Ray: This Superman #50 was hyped as the first meeting between the pre-Flashpoint Superman and the current Superman, but that was actually pushed back a month, leaving this as the conclusion to the “Truth” storyline that saw Superman depowered and exposed. That storyline wasn’t received particularly well, so I have a feeling those additional orders may have left a lot of unsatisfied customers. This is a huge jump, and the fact that it’s mainly based on faulty solicits is iffy.
Glenn:  I wasn’t aware about the solits snaffu here.  I wonder if as a result, DC  made any gesture to retailers such as returnability but I would doubt it.
Amazing Spider-Man sees a sharp uptake in sales up over 88k which is enough to land it at number 5.  Its the start of a new storyline but apart from that, I don’t see any major reason why the sales have gone up by 10k or so since last month.  Perhaps the audience that seemed to drop out after the end of the last volume are coming back?  Next month should tell us if this is just a fluke or if the title is on an upward trend.  Either way, the title continues to be Marvel’s most solid performer in its super hero line and that doesn’t look to be changing anytime soon.
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Ray:  I was a bit surprised at how well ASM did this month. There’s always the question of variants to account for, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it is ticking up again. ASM was incredibly steady in its last run, and it seems odd that it would just shed those 15K readers with no explanation. Time will tell.
Glenn:  I don’t recall any special variant for this issue because that was my first thought too.  Next month will provide a clearer picture either way.
Force choking his way to two spots in a row, Darth Vader issues 17 and 18 land at 6 and 7 respectfully giving sales of over 80k and 77.9k respectfully.  See the comments for Star Wars but give it 5-7 months instead at which time…you guessed it, Rogue One and a Death Star related story to boost sales!
Number 8 is Deadpool with sales of over 72k as he continues to solidly establish himself as Marvel’s go to guy behind Spider-Man.  With continued mini’s being released and a second ongoing now being announced, it seems that for the moment anyway, the market can’t get enough Deadpool.
Now we get to a Marvel launch at number 9 which is International Iron Man with sales over 70.8 k.  Its an alright debut for a second Iron Man book everyone seems to be puzzled is a thing but I would speculate that Marvel can’t be thrilled with the number.  The issue features the reteaming of writer Brian Bendis with his former Daredevil partner Alex Maleev which I would have thought would have gathered a few more buys.  Taking into account that Invincible’s ANAD issue 1 had sales of over 200k on its launch and this one has to sting a bit.  I don’t see this title lasting long and joining the likes of this duo’s Spider-Woman and Moon Knight as ‘planned’ brief runs.
Ray:  Yeah, I won’t mince words – 70K for the first issue of a Bendis-written Iron Man spinoff book is not good. At all. It feels very much like the market saying “Thanks but no thanks, one is enough, especially at $3.99 and often biweekly”. So yeah, I see this falling quickly and going the way of Mighty Avengers, another Bendis spin-off book to a franchise that was already covered really well.
Glenn:  Finally in the top ten is the start of the mini event, Avengers Standoff which has sales of 68k.  A top ten launch is a top ten launch but you would have thought that the latest, heavily promoted Avenger’s mini event would have gotten more eyes than this.  This kind of shows to me that the Avenger’s day as one of Marvel’s top franchises is done for the time being.  It probably doesn’t help that this book is launching only shortly before the launch of Civil War 2 which may be taking most of its spotlight but considering they couldn’t even crack 70k at issue 1, I don’t like the chances of this story when things wrap up.
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Ray:   Standoff ticked up a decent bit from its prelude issue, but not all that much. Just over 68K for a big Avengers crossover is pretty weak, and I think the fact that this is essentially a glorified prequel for CW2 really hurt it right out of the gate. In the end, though, it’s just a two-month crossover for a flagging line of books, so I imagine Marvel can’t be too disappointed with these sales.
Glenn:  On a side note, this is another month where the top ten is entirely full of books ranging in price from 3.99 to 5.99.  People say they want cheaper comics but still, they’re being ordered in vast quantities.  Its going to be very interesting how the top ten fares when DC launches their Rebirth books which will all be priced at 2.99 initially.

 

Ray:  I’ll be really interested to see how DC’s most popular books start doing when they’re $2.99. While Batman loses Snyder and Capullo, the book’s going down to $2.99 with King and Finch, so if it shows some real sales legs, we might see DC’s experiment being a success.

Heading out of the top ten, we see a couple of the month’s notable launches. Black Widow by Waid/Samnee launches at #15 with 62K sales, a pretty strong number. I might have expected a bit more given the creative team’s hype from Daredevil, but Daredevil never sold all that high either. Word of mouth will determine legs here.

Glenn:  Black Widow will be a curious one.  Marvel is giving it a good launch pad with this creative team but I would have thought it would have opened a bit higher.  It doesn’t have much room to fall but it could be a book that finds it level quickly which is becoming increasingly rare.  It all depends what Marvel expects out of it of course.

Ray:  I was surprised to see the out-of-continuity Secret Wars spin-off X-Men ’92 do so well, landing at #18 with 58K sales. The original miniseries had a lot of controversy and was not all that well-received, so I’m not thinking the legs here will be all that great, but a strong start.

Glenn:  This is 90’s nostalgia at work again.  May have gotten some orders depending on people who were even fans of just the cartoon.  On the Stew, I asked if when you opened the comic it played the cartoon’s theme.  I bet it would have been the top telling comic ever if it had.  In all seriousness though, this is another one that is going to have to find its level fast to justify it sticking around.

Ray:  Both Extraordinary X-Men (Apocalypse Wars) and Sam Wilson: Captain America (anniversary issue, Standoff tie-in, bonus stories by top creators) both got sizable bumps into the top 20 this month. Extraordinary has been hanging around the top tier of Marvel ongoings, so that’s not a surprise, but I’m expecting Cap to sink back down to its previous levels once the event is over.

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Glenn:  Well, Cap will then be going into Civil War so that will help it for a while.  In the past there have been some Marvel c-lister books that existed in near permanent crossover mode to survive, it would be odd to have Captain America become one of those.

Ray:  This is where we start seeing some books hanging on pretty well. With its third issue landing at #17, I think we can safely call All-New Logan a genuine hit book now, and the odds of original Logan coming back shrink as this title continues to find its footing. Meanwhile, it’s still too early to say for Spider-Man, which holds well at #16 this month, but that second issue drop was less steep than I expected.

Glenn:  This direction with Wolverine is definitely catching on.  I wouldn’t expect to see the classic character return until Lemire wants him to or his run is over.  Either way, the book is another solid performer from the new line that really needs them.

Ray:  Detective Comics got a fairly sizable bump for its #50 issue, landing at #24 with over 50K sales. There was a special art jam backup featuring a dozen of Batman’s most iconic artists, so that helped this issue stand out.

Harley seems to have gotten a decent bump this month for #26, even though it wasn’t a special issue of any kind. It’s back up over 50K, which probably explains why we’re getting a special and a new miniseries for her in April!

This is where we see all the top-tier Marvel books that have found their level for now. Thor, Doctor Strange, Avengers, Invincible Iron Man, Guardians, Uncanny X-Men and Uncanny Avengers, Spider-Gwen, Daredevil, and All-New Wolverine all seem very healthy, such as healthy is today.

Glenn:  The books you all mentioned are selling in the mid 40k range.  You’re right, in todays market that’s a steady seller (which is somewhat unsettling).  It’ll be interesting if Rebirth will redefine what a steady number is and how these books you mentioned will compare then.

I do see Power Man and Iron Fist’s second issue perform really well at 41 with sales of just over 41k.  Not too bad a drop from their top ten debut last month and a really good number historically for what is again, essentially a Heroes For Hire book.  If this book can stay at this level (probably has room to fall another 6k or so to still be considered a solid performer) then its a rare win for the ANAD relaunch!

Ray:  Yeah, I think Power Man and Iron Fist is turning into a low-key sleeper hit for Marvel, mainly thanks to good word of mouth and advanced hype for these guys’ Netflix series. The series is probably going to settle around the low 30K/high 20K range, which is enough to qualify it as a hit for Marvel at this point. Which is neither here nor there, but it means a good book is finding an audience!

And then in the realm of less healthy Marvel books, we see one of their lower debuts this month, Mockingbird #1 at 39, selling just over 42K. Sure, it could be a lot worse (more on THAT later), but these are the kind of debut numbers that lead to numbers under 20K by the end of the first arc, and those books rarely see 12. Marvel was surely hoping for more when it came to a book starring a popular character from Agents of SHIELD, but this is what you get when you launch 70 new series in a matter of months at $3.99.

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Glenn:  With Mockingbird being featured rather heavily in Amazing, they were likely looking for that to help too.  Its another puzzling launch that no one was really asking for and another one of Marvels now trademark ‘lets just throw it and see if it sticks’ strategies that they’ve been implementing since they had a surprise hit with Fraction’s Hawkeye.  A Civil War tie in might give the book a bit of borrowed time but otherwise, it won’t be long for this world.

Ray:  Action Comics, Wonder Woman, and Detective are all clustered around the same spot in the charts, just above #50, and all of them seem to have gotten bumps of approximately 5K or so from their usual numbers. DC had to have been expecting more, but it’s worth noting that all three of these issues were just mid-arc stories, with nothing to pull in casual readers.

Glenn:  DC probably were expecting more but yeah, the other books that did better had either major things going on (or at least said they did) or was the start of an end of a story.  Its kind of awkward timing in a way since most people will be ending their stories 2 issues later for Rebirth to come along.  It may mean that people treat the 52nd issue with more regard than the usual 50th, we’ll find that out for sure in a few months.

Ray:  Batman and Robin Eternal wraps up, with all five issues in a row from 47 to 52, all selling in the range of 35K. Not a bad performance from a book shipping 4-5 times a month, and I think a lot of these fans will be migrating to Detective Comics come Rebirth, which looks like a direct continuation. This was definitely a win for DC, even if it didn’t reach the numbers of the first volume.

Glenn:  Erosion is going to set in, no matter what but its fantastic sales for a weekly book to finish out on.  I think DC got out of it a solid performance and going to the well the third time would have been pushing their luck.  They’ll be able to get a lot of story elements out of Eternal and of course, the trades will be healthy sellers for DC’s back catalog for years to come.

A launch of a new Marvel miniseries ‘The Infinity Entity‘ (which I had to google, shame on me) starts off at 33k at 54.  Its an okay number for this type of thing which gears towards the old school type of cosmic stories they used to sell.  Of course, back in the day the Guardians monthly would sell around this number (maybe a bit less) and this is just the start so the rest of the mini’s sales will probably be minimal.  This seems to be aimed towards fans of old school Marvel cosmic and for getting trades on shelves in plenty of time for Infinity War.
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Ray:  The Infinity Entity is apparently part 20 or so of Jim Starlin’s Adam Warlock/Thanos epic that has been going back and forth between miniseries and OGNs on the fringes of Marvel for the last decade or so. It’s an odd project that really only appeals to hard-core old-school fans, so this number is pretty decent. Starlin still has a bit of pull, although I’m sure Thanos fever thanks to the Avengers movies helped a lot too!
Glenn:  You say part 20 and some might think you jest but considering he’s been telling stories starring these characters since the 80’s, you might not be far off!
The next new Marvel launch is Hyperion with sales over 31.8k at 61.  Not sure what Marvel was expecting given that the Squadron Supreme book hasn’t exactly been a huge hit (it has sales of over 22k at 87 this month) so its not the healthiest book to launch a spin off from.  Hyperion had a role in Hickman’s Avengers so that was likely the logic here for the green light but this is another one of the 12 issue club most likely come to the end.
Ray:  Honestly, a debut at #71 makes the 12-issue club almost feel generous for Hyperion. If it doesn’t stabilize and very fast, it could be a member of the 6-and-done club like Black Knight, Howling Commandos, or Hercules. And it makes me wonder if we’ll see any better numbers for Nighthawk. David Walker is developing a reputation as a strong writer, but the Squadron is just not a title that can handle spinoffs. It’s not a title that can really sustain a single title with strong numbers, as we see by the main series at #87 with just over 22K. The extended roll-out of Squadron almost reminds me of the Red Circle spin-offs from DC years back.
Glenn:  Nighthawk might have a little more legs since he’s essentially Batman but won’t be a permanent fixture considering another Batman-like character in Midnighter wasn’t able to grab the markets attention, despite some heavy praise.  The supreme verse has been twisting in the wind since the abrupt stop of Supreme Power, it might be time to give them a Thor/Fantastic Four style rest.
Showing that their fetish for number one’s is not deterred, Marvel also launches another Spider-Man mini, this time with Silk in tow with Amazing Spider-Man and Silk: Spiderfly Effect launching at over 30.8k at 63.  I had thought that the ‘point’ mini’s had been doing well based on the Amazing Spider-Man branding but that hasn’t really been the case here.  The Spider-Man line has been Marvel’s MVP (as well as Star Wars) for a while now and this launch isn’t that great compared to what else the line is managing to hold up.  Its just a mini of course but considering the branding, where the Spider-Man line is and that this spins out of a story from the main book that Marvel probably expected, at worst 10k or so more.
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Ray:  Yeah, I’m a bit surprised by the numbers on this Spider-Man/Silk mini. It’s by the regular writer of Silk, and it’s a fun story with a robot dinosaur and Todd Nauck art. The $4.99 price tag may have turned people off a bit, and maybe this would have been better off as an arc in the main title. Silk is struggling a bit in sales in general, so another spin-off may not have been the best decision right now.
Glenn: Agreed, they maybe again thought the Amazing Spider-Man tag might get interest but I guess a brand’s strength only goes so far.  Great to see Todd Nuack getting work though.
What’s next?  You guessed it, its another Marvel launch with another comic telling a tale based off a Disney ride in Haunted Mansion.  The comic featuring the classic ride launches at 66(6?) with sales over 28.7k.  That’s not too bad a performance for this type of thing which is no doubt going to have a long life of sales in collected form in the gift shop of the ride as Disney.  I think other similar books such as Figment and Thunder Mountain performed about the same in monthly form so this is pretty standard.
Ray:  This is actually a much better performance than things like Figment or Big Thunder Mountain Railroad did, probably because of a more recognizable property and Josh Williamson returning to his old “haunting” grounds of ghost stories. It was a great first issue, and I have a feeling this one’s going to be a bit of a sleeper hit in both singles and trades. This is the first Disney-themed book to really show any sales strength for Marvel.
Glenn:  Valiant still manages to able to launch books at a relatively healthy level with their latest A & A starting at 73 with sales over 27k.  Not too bad a launch as Valiant adds more and more books to its catalog.  They have some sleeper hits in their range and have just announced that their comic ‘Faith‘ will now be an ongoing.  Its a hard market for everyone at the moment but Valiant seem to be carving themselves a nice little corner.  A few books that perform steadily will all they need to be able to build a solid foundation on.  If they can ride the rough waters, who knows where they might be in a few years.
Ray:  Yeah, Valiant is slowly but surely creeping up on the charts. Their last few launches have been stronger, and Archer and Armstrong is a fan favorite that people have wanted back for a while. They do a lot of relaunches, almost as often as Marvel, so that gooses things a bit, but they’re getting a reputation for some quality books.
Glenn:  The Neil Adams Superman vehicle, Coming Of The Supermen second issue delivers over 27k also at 74.  This is kind of what I expected given the first issue sales.  Again, you would expect more on paper from a book starring one of DC’s most iconic heroes drawn by an industry legend but this is a comic that doesn’t really have much to do with the main DC direction and the Superman line, as discussed hasn’t been the healthiest the last few years.  Unlike Spider-Man, DC can’t get away with random Superman mini’s and expect them to deliver decently at the moment.  This one might do well in collected form or might just become a forgotten side note.
Ray:  Coming of the Superman is…a strange book, to say the least. Neal Adams still has some sales pull, but after the strangeness of Batman: Odyssey, I have a feeling that most people are buying this out of either loyalty or trainwreck fascination. It has its audience, but it’s a bit of a niche product at this point.
Glenn:  Yeah that’s true (re: Coming Of The Supermen) but it might serve well in the old collection archives for a bit.
It’s Image’s turn for a new launch now with Discipline landing at 97, just making it in the top 100 with sales of over 20k.  We’ll talk in a short bit how those sales now warrant a top 100 number but I would have thought this book could have done a little better.  Writer, Peter Milligan has a decent audience and the book received a lot of press.  I’m wondering if it was maybe a little under ordered, this seems unusually low for an Image launch with a verly well known writer attached.
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Ray:  Peter Milligan’s always been a bit of an acquired taste, telling challenging, often mature-readers stories that are not to everyone’s taste. This book is…definitely one of those, a strange sexual horror story. It was originally a Vertigo book that disappeared from their schedule and came back at Image. Given that, I think these numbers are about as good as could have been expected. Whether it continues that way, we’ll see, but these numbers aren’t unusually low for Image.
 
Glenn:  I just thought given this books publicity it could mav achieved more.  If this lands around this then it’ll be fine but then again, I suppose mature readers books are starting out with a handicap already.
Then we drop out of the top 100 with the 100th book being Image’s Huck selling just over 19.9k.  Ray do you want to prepare the panic room or should I?
Ray:  Oh, lord. Batten down the hatches. We’ve talked a lot about how Marvel’s sales are down, DC’s sales are down, but this is the first really scary indication we’ve seen of how the entire industry is struggling. For less than 100 books to sell over the all-important 20K line is disturbing. Of course, this is much more of an indication that DC and Marvel are struggling, because the number of non-big-two books that sell above 20K regularly is slim, but the industry is contracting, at least in the direct market. That affects everyone. It’s a huge irony that we’re seeing comics take over pop culture at the same time that the industry itself is cratering.
Glenn:  We’ll probably see a brief injection of life in the charts once Rebirth starts but how lasting that will be outside of the top books remains to be seen.  This is something you pointed out before we properly started and it unsettled me greatly.  If the comic market was someone in hospital and we were doctors, we probably wouldn’t be giving our patient the best odds at recovery.

Ray:  As DC marches towards Rebirth, they drop a major bomb out of the top 100 with Legends of Tomorrow #1. This book may have the branding of the TV show, but audiences weren’t fooled – this is actually an anthology repurposed from four cancelled miniseries starring Firestorm, Metamorpho, Metal Men, and Sugar and Spike. Audiences treated it with all the enthusiasm of Cancelled Comics Cavalcade, landing it at 105 with sales of around 18K.

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Glenn:  The logic behind the Legends comic is somewhat baffling.  Would it have been so much of a hassle to have a similar idea but with…you know the actual cast of the show?  I doubt it would have made TOO much of a difference but it couldn’t have been much worse.  When you see books like this being green lit, you have to wonder if there’s something else perhaps in DC office’s water cooler.

Ray:  We’re seeing a ton of Marvel books drop below the 20K range now, but it’s sad to see Vision wind up at #106, given how unique and acclaimed it is. Now that we know it’s a twelve-part series as King heads off to DC land, maybe more people are waiting for the trade.

 

Glenn:  Given the acclaim its receiving, it could be a steady collection seller for years to come, especially if King goes on to become a superstar at DC which seems to be very much on the cards.  At the moment, Marvel is keeping mum about continuing the series after King leaves but I don’t see that being a likelihood.

Ray:  Catwoman’s big anniversary issue, despite sales boosts for all the other anniversaries, lands way down at 134 with sales of just over 14K. Given that, I suppose it’s not a surprise that this book isn’t going to be continuing in Rebirth. Green Arrow and Aquaman got minor boosts, but they were still doing much better than this.

 

Glenn:  We’ve had a Catwoman ongoing pretty steadily now for 16 years so for it to survive this long and be one of the few New 52 books is saying something.  However, the direction that the character has been taken in on her book has been pretty lack luster the last few years.  The book has had some solid runs, even in its recent past but its also had more than its fair share of stinkers.  Selena will find a place somewhere after Rebirth, even if its a return to an occasional supporting character in one of the Bat books but after 16 years, it seems that the audience is ready for a break from her own tales (no pun intended).

Ray:  Mark Millar’s usually good for some pretty strong sales overall, so I’m suprised by just how hard Jupiter’s Circle has fallen from the main Jupiter’s Legacy mini. Only 13K in sales this month. The massive gaps between issues of the main mini – which seems to be relaunching in a few months with a new artist – probably didn’t help at all.

Glenn:  I might be remembering wrong but I think in solicits, I did see Quitely returning to the book so that will undoubtedly help.  Saying that, Millar’s comics seem to be more ‘crowd pleasers’ than this one.  As I understand it, this is more of an intellectual work that may not be everyone’s cup of tea.  Given how many hits he has had with his creator owned works, everyone is allowed one that maybe doesn’t perform as well.  He’ll no doubt be recovering swiftly with Empress and his book with Capullo.
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Ray:  As we head past the 150 mark, it’s just a cavalcade of cancelled and soon-to-be cancelled Marvel and DC books. Drax, Hercules, Illuminati, Martian Manhunter, Black Canary, JL3K, etc. Both DC You and All-New All-Different Marvel Now have basically been a graveyard for oddball books, regardless of quality. Even Gotham Academy – a critically acclaimed fan-favorite – is lurking around this range, although hopefully the Rebirth relaunch will turn things around for this book a bit. And trade sales might help it as well.

Vampirella is the third female pulp hero to relaunch from Dynamite, with sales of 12K at 154. Higher than Dejah Thoris last month, lower than Red Sonja. About what I expected, and a middle-of-the-road debut for Dynamite.

Glenn:  Same here.  Vampirella has a bit more of a name recognition factor than Dejah but not nearly as much as Sonja so what you said makes perfect sense.  I’m sure Dynamite wasn’t expecting much more out of the buxom vamp.

Ray:  Two new all-ages books debut in this range as well – Steven Universe and the Crystal Gems from Boom, spinning off from the popular cartoon, and a Disney Princess cartoon book from little-known Joe Comics. Neither of these are really targeting the direct market, but these still aren’t bad numbers for this type of book.

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Glenn:  Always nice to see some kid friendly books chart, there aren’t enough in todays Market.  It seems that Boom is thinking of building the next generation of fans which will pay off for them mostly outside the direct market.  I see a lot of demand on social media for books like these but little that fit the bill from Marvel, DC or even Image.  Even if we don’t see much benefit in these charts, Boom could be setting them a solid base elsewhere.  Given the state of the market, that may not be the worst idea.

Ray:  Hey, there’s Independence Day from Titan Comics, showing up at 174 with just under 10K sales. About what I’d expect from a spin-off to a 20-year-old movie trying to make a comeback, but I’m still happy to see this back! *pours one out for Randy Quaid, America’s greatest hero*
Glenn:  I would have thought it would be smarter to wait until the launch of the movie to debut this title but what do I know?  I guess nostalgia for this property isn’t as strong as Power Rangers or Back To The Future.  Titan are now the kings of media tie ins and some will perform solidly and some won’t.  This definitely seems to be in the latter category.
 Just below Independence day is Red Wolf at 175 with sales just over 9.9k.  This is one Marvel will be no doubt looking to forget rather swiftly.
Ray:  Yeah, Red Wolf is just a complete disaster and will be going away fairly quickly. A definite bad result for a character Marvel seemed to be hyping a lot coming into ANAD. The 10K mark is pretty much the mark of “no hope” when it comes to big two books. Of course, at least it can say it’s not Starbrand/Nightmask, which landed at 223 with sales of 6.6K this month. And this is only issue #4. It’s solicited through #7, I believe, and there’s a chance that it could actually fall out of the top 300 by the end of that. A main-line Marvel book.
Glenn:  When we did our sales predictions on this line a while back (man where we optimistic in terms of numbers but dead on in terms of landings), we both were like ‘but…why?’ with Red Wolf and Starbrand/Nightmask.  It seems we weren’t the only ones.
There are a few deviations one shots from IDW featuring some of their books including Transformers, Ghostbusters, X-Files, GI Joe and TNMT.  They range from 180 with Transformers at just over 9k to GI Joe at 202 with sales of over 7.8k.  A quick Google tells me this was a 5 week event that was essentially a series of What If’s from the company.  Universal branding has something that the market has leaned heavy on to sell books for over three decades now in order to get audiences to try books the companies want to give the impression that are all connected.  With the lackluster performance of ANAD and attempts like this, it no longer seems to be a guarantee of success.  Attempts like the upcoming Rebirth and Civil War will no doubt be a different story but after years and years and years of things like this, it seems that perhaps the audience is getting more selective of buying in to it, especially if its a smaller audience to start with.  That being said, that Ghostbusters issue looks awesome.
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Ray:  TMNT Deviations seems to be far ahead of the rest of the pack, landing at 136, with sales 4K ahead of the next on the list, Transformers. Probably speaks to the strength of the books on average for IDW, as the Turtles seem to be having a bit of a moment. I think they’re probably pretty happy overall with the sales of these one-shots, so we may see a second wave down the line.
Glenn:  The next new launch this month is Army Of Darkness: Furious Road which I’m going to assume is some sort of Evil Dead/Mad Max crossover because…80’s?  Both the franchises have received a resurgence in popularity due to the TV show and the success of Fury Road last year but it doesn’t seem to be pulling people into comic stores to try out this book.  It launches at 185 with sales of over 8.6k.
Just below that is another sub standard number for a Vertigo launch from DC in Suiciders: King Of Hell which charts at 186 with sales of 8.5k.  I think saying anything else about what Vertigo has been managing to put out in terms of sales would be just cruel at this point.  With the announcement of the Young Animal line which seems to be very reminiscent of the early (much more succesful) Vertigo days I wonder if this is perhaps the end of an imprint that has lasted more than 30 years at DC outside of a healthy back catalog.
Ray:  Suiciders lost Lee Bermejo on art on this second volume, although he remains on writing. His status as writer/artist and his gorgeous art was a big selling point for the first volume, and from reading the first issue this seems to have a very different cast and plot, making it feel more like a spin-off than a continuation of the first volume. That probably contributed a good deal to the drop in sales. Vertigo will likely stick around with a select few books, but this 12-book roll-out that they just delivered isn’t going to happen again. A full three of the new Vertigo titles (Slash and Burn, New Romancer, Last Gang in Town) are all out of the top 300 already, with Red Thorn likely to join them next month. Ouch.
Glenn:  Its sad to see Vertigo go this way, they are putting out some very good books but no one seems particularly bothered.
(Note:  This was written prior to the dismissal of Shelly Bond.  We’re currently starting a pool of how long Vertigo will now last.  Get your guesses in now.)
Angel and Faith ends its current run at 187 with sales of 8.5k.   The time of the Buffyverse performing top ten or twenty or 100 sales are long gone now as only the die hard fans remain.  The next relaunch will no doubt grab a boost in sales but short of the return of Joss Whedon on a regular basis the days this franchise is a steady performer from the fledgling Dark Horse seems to be done.
Ray:   The heyday of the Buffy franchise is certainly over, but at the same time – it’s the fifth-highest selling Dark Horse book this month! The top four are a limited series by an a-list novelist, a first issue of a Predator miniseries, the main Hellboy/BPRD series, and the other Buffy book. So I think these numbers are more a demonstration of just how grim things have gotten for Dark Horse. Buffy is still definitely one of their anchors and they’ll keep it going as long as the creators want it – they’ve got very little else.
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Glenn:  Yeah, Dark Horse needs to clutch close to them anything that still gives them somewhat of a presence.  This year marks their 30th anniversary but sadly, they don’t have much to celebrate.  What is the answer for them to last another 30 years…or even 10?  Its hard to say.
Next launch is a book you talked about on the comics countdown, Another Castle from Oni which sells just over 8.3k at 191.  That’s pretty much a standard launch for Oni for a book that has a really interesting sounding concept.  Given their place in the market and their current output, I’d say they were pleased with that.
Another new launch from Image this month is Circuit Breaker which charts at 192 with sales of over 8,3k.  This seems to be another kid friendly title that seems to be more orientated towards the female market.  Bit of a surprising number considering how well known the artist of the series, Kyle Baker is.
Ray:  Looking at Another Castle and Circuit Breaker together, I’m kind of startled by who won this battle. Another Castle is a fantasy book with no name creators attached, published by Oni, which rarely has strong placings on the chart. Circuit Breaker has Kyle Baker art and was heavily promoted by Image Comics. The fact that Another Castle debuted higher is really impressive, and an Image book with a name-creator attached barely making the top 200 is startling. A lot of reviews said Circuit Breaker was very derivative, so I’m wondering if bad buzz spread and dropped the numbers.

 

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Glenn:  When you look at it that way, you’re right.  Both are aimed at the same audience and Oni managed to out do Image on this one.  I think from premise alone, Another Castle has more legs in it too.  This could be the next franchise to really hit it off in other media.

Ray:  There were a couple of licensed minis like Mars Attacks: Occupation from IDW and Tarzan spin-off Lords of the Jungle from Dynamite that delivered predictably low numbers in the 6K range. No big surprise from these two companies, which struggle outside of a select few properties.

Glenn:  With the movie coming, I would have thought there might have been more interest in Tarzan but this is of course, a franchise that’s been done to death.  These are pretty standard numbers from these kind of tie ins from the smaller companies these days.  These numbers do however, really do underline how spectacular Power Rangers did for Boom this month though.

Ray:  I was puzzled by exactly what “Irwin Allen: Lost in Space” from American Gothic Press is, landing at #229, and it seems it’s the adaptation of the lost episodes of Lost in Space from the ’60s. Oldest-skewing comic of the month?

There’s a really low Image debut this month, Power Lines by Jimmie Robinson. at 242 with just under 6K. This was a challenging book about race issues and superpowers, and one of my favorite #1s last month. Robinson’s been working for Image for a while, with great books like Bomb Queen and Five Weapons, but he’s never quite gotten any sales traction. These numbers are sort of depressing, but I hope it finds an audience at some point.

Glenn:  We were both big fans of Five Weapons and Robinson is a talented writer/artist who for some reason doesn’t grab much of an audience.  Most of his books have been released through Image’s ‘Shadowline’ imprint so I’m not sure if expectations are lower there or how this might do in trade.  Given how successful similar sounding books like Black were on Kickstarter (raising over 90k!!!!) maybe Robinson would be better taking his projects that way?  Creators like Sean Murphy and Gail Simone have had very successful runs with their Kickstarter books so Robinson could find it more worth his time to go down that route.

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Ray:  As we reach the bottom of the charts, this is where we see some of those creator-owned series that arrived with no name creators, no built-in fanbase, and little promotion. Boom’s post-alien invasion cop drama Turncoat at #250 and Dark Horse’s fantasy Shadow Glass at #277. There’s always some comics like this that just slip through the cracks, and there might even be a few under the 300 mark that we don’t see.

Glenn:  Making into the top 300 with all the disadvantages you mention is probably a big deal for these creators.  If I saw any of my books at 300 I’d probably be running through the streets shouting at everyone who would listen until they dragged me away.  How long each of these books last will likely be down to the creators but if you were one of the few that picked them up and you want to keep having the book, share the word about it.  Even one more person reading who then spreads it on to more people could make all the difference.

Ray:  I’m amused that two issues of something called “Zombie Tramp” made the chart this month, somehow.

Glenn:  Guess zombies are still an easy sell.  Given the title there, I can only imagine what the book is about so whoever is behind this is probably thrilled.  It also seems to be that their book has now hit the 20’s, who knew?!

They both outsold a Marvel book with Ultimate Spider-Man: Contest Of Champions which starts off at 258 with sales of over 5.4k.  Its a media tie in, true but its a Spider-Man one so you knew…oh dear.  No doubt it’ll be something that kids will go bananas for outside the direct market…I can only assume?
Ray:  Yeah, the Marvel animated tie-ins never do any real sales in the direct market. This comic is actually an adaptation of a TV episode, so no surprise. Still, Spider-Man being outsold by Zombie Tramp is…surprising.
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Glenn:  Speaking of poor Dark Horse, there’s a new debut from them, Shadow Glass landing at 277 with sales of over 4.9k.  I don’t recognize the name but the Dark Horse branding used to mean so much more than this in the market.  I don’t mean to rag on Dark Horse every month, I’m more concerned than anything.  I love the industry and I love comics, seeing one of the oldest comic companies in the world struggle so significantly I just find unsettling.
I spot Wyonna Earp just below it at 278 with sales of 4.8k.  I’d never heard of this book until I heard of the TV show that is coming.  The TV show might help the book a little but the creators are probably jumping up and down that their book got an adaption so fast.  If the show is a hit then they just might end of up doing the comic on the side for fun.
I see a comic called Evil Dead 2: Revenge Of Hitler at 290 with sales of 4.5 and I wonder if maybe if I could afford to get into diamond some of my books might have a chance after all.  No offence to the creators of the book of course, all credit in the world to them for getting a book that has Hitler’s name in the title to chart in 2016.
I think Hitler is a good note to end this month on, I can’t wait to have to highlight that name because yes, technically he is a comic book character.  All in all there’s some cause for celebration in the top 50 and then it gets pretty grim, pretty quickly.  I’m expecting this is just the world we’ll be living in until Rebirth and later on, Civil War starts.  Whether those will cause a genuine long term resurgence or just be another plaster with a smiley face on it over a large wound that is gushing blood remains to be seen.

Ray:  April isn’t the busiest month, but there’s still quite a few notable debuts, especially from Marvel. The top two books of the month are likely to be Ta-Nehisi Coates’ Black Panther, which sold over 300K, and Star Wars: Poe Dameron, which broke 200K. Beyond that, there’s the launch of Jeff Lemire’s Moon Knight, the launch of the Spider-Women event, and Millar and Immonen’s new creator-owned comic Empress. And then there’s Gwenpool #1. That’s a thing.

DC’s got a pretty quiet month, keeping time till Rebirth. There’s a Justice League special, a very significant Superman crossover, and two new Harley Quinn comics, a miniseries focusing on the Gang of Harleys and a one-shot by the Rebirth creative team. There’s also the revival of Bloodlines, the ’90s alien horror comic. That’s likely a strong contender for Doomed/Klarion numbers.

Image has a few new launches too, but it’s kind of a laid-back month for them too. Brian Wood is back to Vikings with Black Road, and Criminal is back with a one-shot magazine. I’m more excited about some of the launches from other companies, including haunted house horror comic House of Penance from Dark Horse, which is also giving us Matt Kindt’s new sci-fi adventure Dept. H. Then there’s teen sleuth adventure Goldie Vance from Boom, and futuristic sci-fi adventure comic Joyride. These are all books with a good amount of advance buzz, which could surprise us on the charts next month.

Until next month, then! The calm before the storm, when Rebirth and Civil War start coming down the pipe.

By The Numbers: February 2016

Like in any industry, comic books and their companies listen most to one thing and that’s your money! What does your money tell them? What does it tell us as fans? What series do people say they adore but can’t seem to catch a break and what books to people hate that sell out? What are the trends? What looks good? What looks rough?

All these questions and more will be answered here, every month in ‘By The Numbers’ by comic writers, editors and fans, Glenn Matchett and Ray Goldfield.

Glenn Matchett is a comic writer and editor. He’s worked in the industry for 6 years but grew up reading comics. He is currently published with Outre Press,Nemeses Studios and Alterna! He’s trying to not let all the X-Men references in the Cable/Deadpool Marvel Omnibus hurt his brain too much but damn there is a lot…

Ray Goldfield is a fan of comic books for going on 25 years, starting with the death of Superman. He is a writer and editor for Grayhaven Comics and is working on his first novel. Ray also does a weekly roundup of DC comic reviews for website Geekmom and they’re brilliantly entertaining. He’s still giggling about the ‘underoos’ gag in the most recent trailer for Captain America: Civil War and thinks you should all be too.

We also do a podcast together with longtime buddy, Brandon James on iTunes with Rabbitt Stew or at the link here! Don’t ask, I didn’t pick the name. If you’d like to hear what me and Ray sound like, give it a listen!  The episode where we talk about this very sales charts in a little less detail is available here!

Full top 300 for February available here!

So its time again for myself and Ray to check the top 300 sales for the highlights and low lights of the monthly comic sales charts!  Both of us were expecting some quiet for a few months while Marvel waits for Civil War II:  There’s a movie you know and Rebirth coming out but this month still holds a few surprises.

Market Share

Glenn:  Before we start on sales proper, the drop in DC’s market share is something that is hard not to notice.  If they didn’t have Rebirth coming around, they would probably be very concerned.  Of course, they’re betting a lot on Rebirth working much, much better than ANAD has for Marvel.  It’ll be an interesting one to keep track of but if this were a boxing match, DC would be on the ropes praying for that bell to ring so it can get itself together.
Ray:  Yeah, this was probably DC’s worst month yet, and these sales were baked in well before they announced the details of Rebirth, so the drops you speculated about retailers backing off ordering when they realize none of this will matter in a few months are yet to hit. Although, details indicate this is not a reboot so much as a major refocusing and a rolling back of the less popular elements of the New 52, so those drops may not be as harsh as expected.
Glenn:  Lets hope not.  DC needs Rebirth to land at a much higher level than the majority of the ANAD titles have.  Hopefully the refocus and the lower price point will gain them some momentum.
Sales
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Glenn:  Of course, even though they took a hit in Market share, they did have the top selling book of the month in the third installment of Dark Knight III.  The large prestige book continues to pull in the numbers for DC as it sales to number one with sales over 146k.  DC got some flack for ‘Before Watchmen‘ and there has been some controversy about Millers non-involvement in this but despite that, them going back to these classics for more material seems to work, even necessarily without the original creators.  This shows that often branding can be just as vital as creator names.  Right now, Batman is the MVP at DC, he’s keeping everything going on his own and hopefully a few other of their main franchises will help shoulder that burden following Rebirth.  Dark Knight III is proving the be a big hit for DC and again, will keep them in the money in collected form for decades to come if the original is anything to go by.
Ray:  Right now, it seems like DKIII is one of the very few bright spots in DC’s stable, and audience response to the book has been surprisingly good after some early controversy, so I expect this to maintain its hit status throughout the run. There’s a spin-off with art by Romita Jr. coming in April that should do very well too.
Glenn:  Number two goes to the continuation of Marvel’s flagship book.  No its not Avengers or Spider-Man or Deadpool, its Star Wars which has become a big part of Marvel’s current dominance in the Market.  Issue 16 sells over 110k while the other big book in this universe, Darth Vader gives Marvel another slot in the top ten at number 7 with sales just over 81k.  The sales on the latter are slowing down a little but Star Wars the title and the franchise doesn’t seem to be something anyone can touch (outside of Batman) at the moment.  With more titles like Poe Dameron and a Han Solo mini both on the way, I don’t imagine this changing anytime soon.
Ray:  We’ve talked so much about Star Wars, but it’s really amazing just how consistent it is. The drops are tiny, and it’s selling in an area far above anything else on the market regularly. And it seems to be lifting all boats, too. Darth Vader, of course, continues to be a solid top ten hit, and we’ll see how the other members of the line do a bit down the list.
Glenn:  The streak continues with Batman getting the third slot with sales of over 102k.  Now we’re pretty much guaranteed to see Snyder’s Batman run sell over 100k every issue this is something we may not see in the market again for a very long time.  Its been quite a ride and its been something to be reading a run that will be one of those I believe people will look back at in the same way people now look back at Miller, O’Neill and others.  It’s heavily rumoured that Snyder is moving over to Detective after Rebirth (he has frequently talked on Twitter on future Batman plans past the current run) and Tom King is taking over what is DC’s most dependable selling book.  In a perfect world, this will mean that Batman will keep the majority of its sales on the brand alone and Snyder will hugely lift Detective as a major hitter for DC.  Will that be the case?  Time will tell but this is an accomplishment that is well worth a salute in my view.
Ray:  50 issues over 100K. That’s amazing in this market. Should easily make it to 51 with Snyder and Capullo’s done in one finale come April. It’s hard to overstate just how incredibly well this book has done. Any comic from any company that doesn’t involve Jedi would kill for these sales on a consistent basis. I’m wondering where Snyder and Capullo will go once Capullo comes back to DC – whatever it is, they’re likely going to be bringing some massive sales with them, even if no other combo of creator and character will reach these highs.
Glenn:  You’ve speculated in the past that Snyder/Capullo would do gangbusters on Wonder Woman and I absolutely agree.  DC will want to put a major spotlight on that book coming up to the film (like they’re doing with Suicide Squad by having Jim Lee apparently there to help launch that book).  It’ll be interesting to see if this team can recapture the audience, sometimes these things are one offs that can’t be duplicated but you just never know.
Spider-Man starring the young man who is now the third Spider-Man in the new Marvel Universe, Miles Morales gets the number four spot with sales just under 100k.  There’s a few ways to look at this, its a good launch for yet another Spider book (of which there are approximately eleventy billion) but you would have thought Marvel might have expected more.  The issue came close but didn’t crack 100k so the first issue of a new Spider-Man title could not outsell the 49th issue of Batman (Marvel: Renumbering is fun lolz).  It also had a dynamite creative team, a ton of variants and promotion and could be seen as a follow on from Secret Wars given Miles prominence in that book.  Despite trying for years to make Miles a think, the audience doesn’t seem to be taking to it.  The book will remain relatively healthy but there’s something to be said about how Miles as a character has yet to fully catch on as opposed to a brand new Spider character that I shall leave in Ray’s capable hands.
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Ray:  Yeah, on one hand 99K and #4 is not bad for the latest Miles Morales relaunch, but given the hype, I expected more. There’s a number of things that probably drove the title down, despite a huge spotlight in both Secret Wars and the current Avengers title. I think Miles’ title’s been relaunched a bit too often and that’s blunting the impact – which is a problem for a lot of Marvel books these days. I also think the idea of Miles in the 616 is a controversial idea to begin with, and some people aren’t on board. And given the twists to his origin revealed in #2, I have a feeling attrition may be harsh as time goes on. But even on the first issue, it’s easy to look at this first issue number, compared to the numbers Spider-Gwen did with far less advanced hype, and think that this title may not stay all that healthy for long.
Glenn:  Miles will be safe as long as his creator is at Marvel.  He sadly has just become yet another Spider-Man with little to make him special over Peter or even Miguel who is currently also operating in New York as Spider-Man in this new universe.
Just in case you didn’t hear, there’s a Deadpool movie out (which was awesome) that made a ton of money and Marvel never one to miss out a chance to make some of that sweet, sweet green, released some Deaddool books!  A new mini ‘Deadpool: Mercs with a Mouth launched at number 5 with sales just over 90k and the 7th issue of the latest volume of the Chimichanga loving mercenary did over 88k.
The newest Deadpool issue is something to be taken in context, it received a huge sales bump for Deadpool’s big month in the form of an anniversary issue that was 80 pages that cost 9.99 (!!!!!!).  That’s right, Marvel expected people to pay for one issue the equivalent of the price of the majority of vol. 1 Image trades and it worked!  People love Deadpool, the market doesn’t seem to have grown tired of him and doesn’t show any signs of doing so.  Again, fans are telling Marvel they are willing to pay more for their books and in response, Marvel will keep doing so.
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Ray:  Everyone loves Deadpool! I’m not surprised Marvel had a lot of content out for him in his movie month, even though the movie was Fox, and both of these are strong debuts. These numbers on the anniversary issue will likely not discourage Marvel from charging $10 for super-sized issues in the past, although it kind of looks bad for them given that DC just announced a comic of the same size for $2.99.
Glenn:  Big mega debut for Power Man & Iron Fist which debuts at number 8 with sales over 79 k.  This is a great number for a what is essentially a Heroes For Hire title giving it plenty of room to fall.  The fact that Luke Cage has featured very heavily in the Marvel universe in the last decade and was featured on an incredibly popular and critically acclaimed Netflix show has probably helped a lot here.  Iron Fist of course is moving ever closer to his own show which probably helps a good bit too.  Even if this title manages to land around 35 K it would still be the best selling Heroes For Hire comic in decades and Marvel will be more than pleased.
Ray:  Only 20K difference in sales between a title called Spider-Man and a title called Power Man and Iron Fist. That’s pretty impressive, and I’d say this is the result of savvy promotion, a creative team that fans wanted to support, and a book that just looked really, really good. I think a good model that this title could follow is Ms. Marvel. It’s not going to settle down to be one of the top books, but it’s going to land higher than a lot of other books and find its level quicker than most. It’ll be a solid mid-level hit for Marvel after that debut, and for characters who haven’t carried a spotlight title in a while, that’s a huge success.
Glenn:  Number 9 is Marvel’s Superhero bread and butter franchise at the moment, Amazing Spider-Man with sales over 75K.  Again there is a noticeable dip in sale figures on the book following Secret Wars but Amazing is Marvel’s best selling book not set in a galaxy far, far away on a consistent basis.  With his debut coming in Civil War (the movie, not the comic cash grab…I mean sequel) and the movie next year, this isn’t going to change I expect anytime soon.
Finally in the top ten, we have the other big book DC puts out that keeps them from crying on a regular basis and that is Geoff Johns Justice League with sales of 72.7k.  While its not the consistent juggernaut that Snyder’s Batman has been, Johns 50 issue run on this book has been something to really take not of also.  Since it launches with the biggest platform possible, the title has remained a pretty solid staple for DC.  If you think about it, only five years later as the run in the book is winding down, its only reaching the numbers that Marvel’s best selling superhero book can do without any renumbering or sales related shenanigans.  So far, surprisingly the future of this major book has been verly low key.  I’m sure DC will want to keep it at its current level but following this run is going to be a hard task for anyone.  Unless Ray can correct me, any franchise Johns has worked his magic on has rarely managed to retain the same momentum after he leaves.  Who will be the new Justice League creative team be?  That’s a question for another time but this run will seemingly go out on a respectful sales high.
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Ray:  ASM and Justice League seem to have found their levels as consistent hits in the 70K range, and that seems to be as good as it gets in this market. I will notice, though, that ASM drops 4K between issues 7 and 8 (which lands at #11), which threatens to knock it into the 60K range by next month. Even Marvel’s top books are being hit by harsher falls than I expected, which has to be worrisome.
Glenn:  Apart from Star Wars, many of Marvel’s previous heavy hitters aren’t retaining the sales they had.  They’re sliding down a lot faster than one would expect.  It seems that the relaunch effect is doing more harm than good perhaps in the long term.

Ray:  When it comes to Johns franchises after he left, you’re pretty much right. Teen Titans, clearly, went right off the rails with only a few bright spots since. JSA never found its footing with any creative teams after Johns, to the point where they got the most radical revamp of anyone in the New 52. Flash and Green Lantern probably came the closest, with solid runs that kept them in the mid-tier of DC books, certainly higher than they were before he came on. Justice League, though, may be a bit more bulletproof. The title’s been a consistent hit for DC for a long time, and coming off this run the book will have a lot of momentum. And it’s worth noting that Johns and Snyder are the only writers who started and ended the New 52 era on the same book!

Glenn: That’s crazy to think after all this time Johns and Snyder are the only ones left standing from two out of 52 books!  I’m not quite as confident in the longevity of Justice League by itself, it didn’t sell particularly well under McDuffie or Robinson back in the day.  It seems that Justice League (or any variation) needs a big name like Morrison or Meltzer or Johns to help it.  They’ve remained suspiciously quiet on future plans for the book so you just don’t know what they have up their sleeves.

Ray:  Two debuts from last month, Spider-Man/Deadpool and Old Man Logan, held very well into their second month, with their second issues landing as the next Marvel books on the charts, in the 60K range. So these two should be safe for the long run, or at least as long as these creative teams stay on board! Especially well deserved with Old Man Logan.

Glenn:   Its nice to see some books retain most of their sales at Marvel.  This Wolverine book could be the biggest hit the title’s seen since Aaron left him a number of years ago.  We’re still in the buffer months for both books but I don’t see any unexpected surprises from either book.  Its quite astonishing that the Old Man Logan team are doing so much better than they did on Green Arrow over at DC.  Wolverine isn’t the healthiest state as a sales draw and Green Arrow could be a big hit for DC given the popularity of the show but at the end, it all comes down to presentation and that is something Marvel excels at.

Ray:  We see a bit of a bump for Invincible Iron Man this month, up to 63K at #16. As I recall, this was the first issue that had the “road to Civil War II” banner on it, so that probably helped a good deal. I wonder if it’ll maintain these increased numbers.

Glenn:  Lets see if the main Civil War tie ins can have as much impact as the original did.  This is kind of the level I expected the book to land at initially (maybe a little higher) so this could be its chance to get more of an audience.  Its still not a big enough number to warrant the upcoming spin off title but hey, you never know.
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Ray:  Batman/TMNT is still holding in the teens with 64K sales, so I think we can safely say this isn’t just a sales bump from hype or variants. There’s a real audience for this crossover, and I think DC and IDW will definitely look at what crossovers they can do next and what creators have real passion for both sides like Tynion clearly does.

Glenn:  Clearly  Bat related crossovers  are now a thing since we’ve just seen a Gotham Academy/Lumberjanes crossover announced.  This will probably not be as much of a success but it seems these two companies are just starting what could be a long, healthy career of crossovers which will benefit both Boom and DC in the long run.

Ray:  Obi-Wan and Anakin has a fairly harsh fall to the 58K range this month, but for a flashback Star Wars title set during a…controversial era of the property, that’s still pretty strong.

Glenn:  Given the sales of Kanan (sales of over 38 k at 38) Clearly people are only really interested in post Episode IV era because all the books set during around that era have yet to sell less that 70k I believe.  Its all relative of course, I’m sure that people would be all over a Maul mini or some such.

 

Ray:  Walking Dead and Saga, still Image’s crown jewels. They’re at 13 and 24 on the charts this month, beating about 90% of DC and Marvel’s lineups. That’s amazing.

Four issues in, Mighty Thor has settled down around 56K, with virtually no drop from the last issue. That book’s found its level, and I wouldn’t be surprised if it wound up as Marvel’s #2 in continuity ongoing in a few months. This is what happens when you have a creative team that’s trusted, and a long ongoing run that people love. I think there’s a comparison here to the current All-New Batman story – if you have the audience’s trust, they’ll stick around no matter who’s in the costume.

Glenn:  Agreed on Thor, I could even see it doing a slow climb over time.  When Snyder was on Detective, the sales on that book just kept going up and up.  It wasn’t cause of any incentives or crossovers or such, people just enjoyed the book because it was awesome.  We could see the same from Thor.  This will of course be helped along when it ties into Civil War and may be one of the few books that manage to keep the larger audience, like Captain America did back in the day.
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Marvel launches a mini-event this month, “Standoff: Welcome to Pleasant Hill“, and this issue is a prequel to the official kick-off in March. A bit confusing, and that might explain why it could only land at #18, with 57K sales. That might also have to do with the fact that it spins directly out of Captain America: Sam Wilson, a title that we’ve talked about a lot, and has not been doing very well. I don’t think audiences are treating this like an event, more a short-term crossover without much hype, and this pre-event before Civil War II will likely come and go without much fanfare.

 

Glenn:  For the past few years, the inner title crossovers for the Spider-Man and Batman books have done very, very well.  Outside of that I can’t think of many examples outside of the glory days of Johns Green Lantern.  Avenger’s isn’t in the position it was even a year ago and people seem to be abandoning anything Cap related like they’re on the Titanic and the last boat is leaving.  This is a crossover designed for the trade in mind which will likely hit around the movie, any other explanation for it makes little sense.
Ray:  To go back to your boxing analogy, Marvel may have DC on the ropes, but they’re hiding some pretty bad bruises and if DC gets a second wind, they could knock them out in a hurry. By the end of this month, the only books they have above 50K in their main line that are at least three issues in are ASM, Deadpool, Invincible Iron Man, Thor, and Uncanny X-Men/All-New X-Men. And those last two are about to fall out of it. Sure, one or two of the newer books might hold above that level, but that’s still really grim. Two of their biggest new hits, Doctor Strange and Spider-Gwen, are selling 47K and 43K respectively. Their flagship X-book, Extraordinary, is down to 47K. Even their headline new Avengers book dips to 48K this month. Something is going seriously wrong in Marvel’s latest relaunch, and there’s a big opening for DC if Rebirth catches on.

Glenn:  On the surface, Marvel is killing it but yeah,on closer inspection there are more than a few chinks in the armour.  A lot of these books they’ve put a lot of effort and promotion into have not landed where I’m sure they thought they would.  If it wasn’t for Star Wars, the race might be much, much closer and DC might even be slightly ahead.  Now, Civil War II:  Running Out Of Funny subtitles fast! is coming and that’ll help a lot.  Its going up against Rebirth though so this is now fans to put their money where their mouth is so to speak.  Civil War tie ins will likely be all 3.99 (with the main book probably costing more) and be a major wide spanning book that fans have been saying they don’t like anymore.  Rebirth seems more like a branding excessive than an ‘event’ and all their books will be 2.99.  DC is seemingly giving fans what they say they want but will sales reflect that?  Its going to be a big Summer with a lot on the line for both companies over the Summer or so.

 

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The bi-monthly Harley’s Black Book pulls in just over 45k at 31 proving that the crazy clown girl still has her audience.  Its a great number for a bi-monthly book at 4.99 but won’t have a very long shelf life at all since its not being carried on following Rebirth.  DC are perhaps wanting the new Harley book to follow Rebirth to be one of their major hits and don’t want to oversatuate the market but right here, right now this is a great number for this type of book.
Ray:  All of Harley’s appearances are still doing gangbusters. Not the numbers they were to begin with, but still very much in the top tier of DC’s books. I’m a bit surprised to see Harley’s Little Black Book going away with Rebirth, but then Harley is going biweekly. Maybe they don’t want to oversaturate the market, which is a smart move.
Glenn:  Speaking of Harley and her sales draw, a one shot she shares with Batgirl set in the video game ‘Arkhamverse’ does really well for this type of thing at 55 with sales just over 33k.  Not too bad at all, expect a lot of Harley related stuff to be coming out around the time of Suicide Squad’s time in theater’s if the truly crazy amount of Deadpool books Marvel is currently putting out is anything to go by.
The launch of the Neil Adams vehicle, Superman: The Coming Of The Supermen launches this month at 40 with sales over 37k.  Not great for a mini starring one of DC’s most iconic heroes by one of their most iconic creators ever.  It seems that more people are willing to buy a Neil Adams title if it has Batman in it.  This mini better find a level soon or its not going to be pretty as it continues.  I would say that DC are wanting to get most of these tie in and non mainline books out the door before Rebirth so the audience doesn’t get confused about what to pick up.  The sales aren’t dire but they’re more akin to what I would expect Neil Adams to get if he was drawing say…Swamp Thing instead.
To put it into perspective, this mini still got beat by Image’s Paper Girls.
Ray:  On one hand, this isn’t actually a bad number for an out-of-continuity Superman miniseries that seems to be set in the 1970s. Such a strange project. But then, Neal Adams is a big draw, and I expected a bit more. I suppose the strangeness of Odyssey may have driven off some fans, who are interested in his art but not so much his odd plots. Worth noting that this disappointing debut is still DC’s 9th highest book of the month.
Glenn:  That number for the Adams book says volumes about DC’s state at the moment.  I wonder if they just want to move up Rebirth just a smidge…
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There’s the third issue of Deadpool and Cable: Split Second at 42 selling over 36.6k.  Did we mention the market loves Deadpool?  Cause they do!
Ray:  As Eternal enters its final act, it’s staying fairly steady in the 35-36K range. I’m sure DC would have liked more, but with only 9 books in their entire line selling more (with only five of them being ongoings), this has to be lifting them a good deal. I think this performance is more a product of DC’s whole line being in dire straits than any weakness in this book.
Glenn:  Eternal will finish with respectful numbers for a weekly comic.  I bet DC is hoping both this and the previous series (70 odd issues in all) is an indicator for how people will order the rest of the line when the majority of them go bi-weekly.

Ray:  The second-issue slide for A-Force was predictably harsh, down to 35K by issue two. This isn’t a title that’s in immediate danger, but what are those issue three numbers going to look like? How about issue eight? I would have expected a bit more for a title that got a big roll-out with Secret Wars. The same goes for Captain Marvel, which slid even harder down to 28K. Rocket Raccoon and Groot, which was a huge hit in vol. one, is down to 29K now. Given how much hype these three got, this has to be disappointing.

Glenn:  Sad times all around for books that seem to be under performing, especially like you said the likes of Rocket & Groot and also Spider-Gwen which were doing killer number prior to Secret Wars and are either ‘meh’ or worse.  Civil War to the rescue in a few months no doubt.  How it can effect a book set in space and one in another reality is anyone’s guess but if anyone specializes in loose tie ins to boost sales, its Marvel.
Ray:  This is where we see a bunch of Marvel titles finding their levels in the 30-35K range. Totally Awesome Hulk, Uncanny Inhumans, Ms. Marvel. This is pretty clearly the third-tier group, and it’s odd to see Hulk down here.
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Glenn:  At this point you can imagine Marvel setting the Hulk property down and yelling ‘what do you want from me?!’  They’ve thrown everything from putting big names on it, big artists on it and even putting someone else in the main role and it doesn’t seem to be working.  The solution to the problem?  You guessed it, Civil War to the rescue in a few months.
Its unusual for DC to release two issues of the same title in the same month (this will change after Rebirth!) but due to what I would assume is a shipping issue, two issues of Flash came out this month.  I only mention it because they landed side by side at numbers 52 and 53 with both over 34k with around 500 units between them.  This is some great consistency between issues that we are not seeing from the majority of Marvel’s line.  Given that the character is going to be apart of the DC cinematic universe soon and has his own juggernaut TV show, I’d imagine DC will be wanting to draw more attention to this book and make it still a consistent seller but at say…30k higher or so.
Ray:  Yeah, there were some delays with Flash, hence two issues in one month. This is a mid-level performer for DC, even though the current team hasn’t been all that popular. I expect this book to get one of the biggest pushes come Rebirth, given how popular the TV show is.
Glenn:  There’s Captain America at 69 with sales just over 27k.  He used to sell well, we promise.
Ray:  To put Captain America’s performance into perspective, it’s currently selling between Carnage and Karnak. Not what I would expect to see for Captain America, and there’s no way Marvel is happy. Hence, Steve Rogers returning. I don’t think that’s likely to burn up the sales charts either, though.
Glenn:  Issue One of Steve Roger’s will land high but whether it’ll sustain that is anyone’s guess.  It doesn’t seem that Cap is going to be playing as much of a role in this Civil War sequel (which is surprising cause his third movie is also called that).  We’ll definitely be only seeing one Cap book well before the end of the year and spoilers folks: its not going to be the guy that can fly.
Ray:  Three DC titles, New Suicide Squad, Aquaman, and Teen Titans all got new creative teams this month, only to have it revealed that the writers were just on board for an arc. That pretty much undercut all their buzz, resulting in them landing right next to each other at 82-84 with 23K sales. I think this might be the first sign of Rebirth hurting current books. It’s hard to get excited when the new creative team is essentially a glorified fill-in.
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Glenn:  Everything at DC is at holdover mode and outside of Snyder’s Batman, people might be taking it as an excuse to save a little money for the next few months.  Lets just hope for DC’s sake they’re saving it all for all those new Rebirth books over the next few months.
Ray:  DC’s two plant-themed heroes, Poison Ivy and Swamp Thing, had modest debuts last month, and both seem to have held pretty well. They held in the top 100, which shows that the initial weak debuts may have been accurate representations of reader interest.
Glenn:  Both are just mini’s right?  They’re perfectly fine numbers for mini’s starring these characters.  I do expect a lot more from Poison Ivy’s creative team in Rebirth, its likely they’re both going to either be on a higher profile book each or together.
The next new launch is way down at 99 and its Worst X-Man ever with sales just over 21k.  Back in the day anything at Marvel with an X on it (insert your own dirty joke here) sold like no tomorrow.  Those days are way behind us and calling something ‘the worst’ in any format is not going to encourage people to buy it.  This is a terrible result for a book that received a heck of a lot of promotion but then again all that did over and over and tell everyone in a round about way how bad it was.
To put it into perspective, this mini got beat by Image’s Outcast.
Ray:  I snarked a good deal about Worst X-Men Ever on the Rabbitt Stew podcast, only to eat my words when the book turned out to be really good. But yeah, marketing here was just a disaster. Very little idea of what this book was about, no connections to the X-line, and that negative superlative in the title didn’t make for an appealing package to retailers. Kudos to Marvel for putting out a quirky project like this, but the pieces just weren’t there for it to sell.
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Glenn:  A really unhealthy drop to 115 at just over 18k for Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D which unless Civil War helps it a huge deal will soon be sharing time in the ‘no’ box with Black Knight.  Of course, these characters that also feature on the TV show will likely be showing up in a lot of other titles.  Long gone are the days where when S.H.I.E.L.D shows up that means David Hasslehoff Nick Fury or Dum Dum Duggan are the only ones answering the call.
Ray:  And this is where we see the new Marvel titles start to run into trouble. That’s a disastrous second-issue fall for Agents of SHIELD, akin to already-cancelled titles like Black Knight and Howling Commandos. Spider-Woman and Web Warriors are about to dip below the 20K mark, making them the weak links of the Spider-line. Critical acclaim hasn’t been able to keep Vision above the 20K line, and that one is now likely to end with 12 as Tom King leaves. New Avengers has a shockingly sharp fall with issue #7, losing 13K from #6 also in this month. Something weird might have gone on there. And quirky sister titles Squirrel Girl and Hellcat have both sunk well under the 20K line and need to pray for trade sales to save them.
Glenn:  There’s a lot of bad news for a lot of books out there.  When it gets to this level, the future of these books do not look promising.  If you’re a fan of any books Ray mentioned, you might want to get some word out about the books you love because Marvel tends to take these books away without much (or any) notice.  I wonder how much benefit the up coming female Spider spin off will help Spider-Woman whose day in the limelight (which was when she was a Skrull btw) has long last.  Spider-Gwen is still a thing yes but I don’t think even she has the power to help her other female Spider heroes

Ray:  And those aren’t even the worst. I think we can safely say that Illuminati, Drax, Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur, Weirdworld, and Hercules aren’t long for this world, all hovering around the 15K mark or below. Red Wolf seemed to get no benefit at all from the order bump, sinking down to 12K sales, the second lowest uncancelled Marvel book. And Starbrand and Nightmask actually fell below the 10K mark on issue #3. To put it in perspective, both of these books sold less this month than Howling Commandos of SHIELD. This really looks like an accelerated version of the New 52, where all the odd, quirky books were culled quickly.

Glenn:  If  Marvel does cancel these books then there’s going to be a lot of shelf space they need to fill.  So there is three possibilities

1) They keep these books going and tie them into Civil War for easy cash
2) They relaunch even more books making the situation even worse
3)  More Star Wars books, one starring those little droid dog things the empire keep around
Let us know your guesses!
Ray:  Dog Droid! Dog Droid! Just give Skottie Young, Chris Eliopoulos, and Andy Runyon a book where they do cute silent droid stories. It’ll be doing Death of Superman numbers.
Glenn:  Or Dustin Nguyen, who doesn’t want a Bandit (Of Descender fame) one shot?
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Ray:  There weren’t many new Image books this month, and no A-list ones. However, two did manage respectable debuts. Snow Fall, by the creative team of Great Pacific, got about 17K in its debut, and quirky futuristic fantasy Mirror, by Emma Rios, pulled just under 15K. Decent results for creator-owned books without a lot of hype.

Glenn:  They may be on the smaller end of the Image launches but some of them could hold more of an audience than most of the DC/Marvel books we’ve been talking to.  Right now, if nothing else Image books have a consistent audience on each of their titles while most Marvel books are all over the place.
Ray:  We’ve talked a lot about how Boom doesn’t seem to really be clicking in the direct market, despite a lot of critically acclaimed titles. However, they had one impressive debut this month. Jonesy, an offbeat romance comic with quirky, stylized art, was promoted aggressively and it landed at 188 with sales of over 9K. That’s their third-highest book this month, below Grant Morrison’s Klaus and licensed comic Bill and Ted Go to Hell.
Glenn:  Good to see Boom get a shout in.  The trouble with them is the same issue Dark Horse is now faced with.  They’re both attempting to compete with Image on creator owned books and IDW with licenced properties.  Seemingly without anyone noticing IDW has now filled the licencing hole that Dark Horse used to hold for decades.  Where they will both need to invest is talent people no one is talking about yet.  They need to grab creators with talent who may not be household names but can tell stories that may get people talking.  Image has managed to grow tremendously and is now seen as a real viable choice for creators to go to on the back of the success of Walking Dead and Saga.  However, back in the day Robert Kirkman was just some guy putting out a little known book called Battle Pope.  Dark Horse and Boom need to be looking for the next big thing and maybe taking the risks the other companies aren’t/won’t.  Its the only option I can see where they stay both can stay relevant in the market that the biggest two companies are finding it rough waters in themselves.
Ray:  Boom seems to have committed to launching a good number of teen-centric titles that they’re trying to sell to the bookstore market. Lumberjanes is their biggest hit, and they’re trying to follow in that model. The sales in the direct market aren’t quite there yet, but it’s a niche they’re going for. Dark Horse’s biggest problem is that it doesn’t seem to have a distinct niche of its own. It’s putting out a little bit of everything, but everything it puts out can be found elsewhere (unless you’re a die-hard Mignolaverse fan).
Glenn:  A USP is crucial for any business to survive and its true, that is something Dark Horse lacks.
Speaking of IDW and licenced properties they release a quite random Street Fighter vs GI Joe issue 1 of what I assume is a new mini.  90’s nostalgia is seemingly alive and well as it sells just over 18k at 119.  Not too shabby for two properties that have far past their peak and would not seemingly be your first choices to throw together…
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Remember when I said Dark Horse is struggling like Boom to find its place in the market?  The proof is their newest Hellboy comic starting at 155 with sales just over 12k.  This is their second highest comic in the charts from one of their oldest and most enduring properties.  We talk a lot about how much a boxing match that DC and Marvel and in but Dark Horse is the fighter currently being carried out on the stretcher.  Dark Horse has been around a hell of a lot longer than IDW, Boom or even Image but it seems they’re at their lowest point possibly ever.  I’d like to imagine that they have enough of a back catalogue to keep themselves afloat but you just never know…
For the record, a reorder of the Batman/Turtles crossover and a Jem and the Holograms annual outsold Telos, the 5th issue of which lands just over 9.5k.  I expect DC is opening that sink hole they shoved Klarion into to put Telos into also.  Never to be heard from againnnnnnnn.
Ray:  Ah, Telos. Easily the most puzzling title either company has greenlit in recent memory. Who would have imagined that a title attempting to turn the generic villain from a forgettable event into a solo hero wouldn’t have found an audience? It goes to join Klarion and GI Zombie in the limbo hole, I guess.
Glenn:  I don’t even remember GI Zombie!  Just goes to show you.
A decent debut from Dynamite this month with Dejah Thoris at 181 selling over 9.7k which considering their place in the market is a great start.  Not a book I’ve heard a great deal about so I would consider this a great number to start off with.
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Ray:  Dejah Thoris is the second of three revamps of classic female pulp heroes from Dynamite. Red Sonja had a strong debut last month, but falls all the way down to 211 this month. That bodes very poorly for the less-known Thoris in following months. We’ll see how Kate Leth’s Vampirella does next month.
Glenn:  I have heard of Sonja and Vampirella but not this one so I’d expect her to do a little bit better.  The market has always had a soft spot for the buxom vampire.
Another new debut from DC from I assume their Vertigo line in the form of Dark & Bloody with sales of over 8.6k at 194.  This is pretty much a standard launch from Vertigo these days.  The brand itself is not in a strong enough position to launch new properties and I think if you looked at Vertigo as its own company they’d be in the same seats that Dark Horse and Boom are in.  Since Vertigo is a part of DC the line likely won’t be going anywhere but I won’t be expecting another steady solid performer along the likes of Fables for a while, possibly ever.
Ray:  Yeah, Lucifer and American Vampire (when it returns) should continue to be solid performers, but most of Vertigo’s line is in serious trouble. This isn’t a terrible debut for The Dark and the Bloody (which is only a miniseries), but it had very little advanced promotion. And looking at Vertigo overall, only Lucifer and the all-ages Astro City are over 10K. Then it’s all the way down to Clean Room at 7K and Sheriff of Babylon at 6.3. These are the ones with big names attached. Unfollow, Jacked, Art Ops, and Survivor’s Club are in the 5K range despite some well-known and popular creators – one of these is by the creator of Supernatural! And you have New Romancer and Last Gang in town not even breaking 4K. One Vertigo book, Slash and Burn, even fell all the way out of the top 300. That’s pretty shocking, given that these are books with DC money and promotion behind them. I think we can safely say the big Vertigo rollout has fallen flat, despite some great quality in there.
Glenn:  I wonder if perhaps the Vertigo line would be better repackaged to the OGN market.  The Earth One books always do very well and most of the strong Vertigo back catalog (Fables, Sandman, Y: The Last Man) perform very respectfully even years after their publications.  The monthly market as it stands may not be the best place for Vertigo titles to make their mark.
A new Grumpy Cat title from Dynamite also launched this month at 198 with sales of just over 8k.  This one features Grumpy Cat and another character named ‘Pokey‘….
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Ray:  This is what we get when there’s no Garfield title on the market to satisfy those who want their comics to feature wisecracking, cranky cats, Glenn. This is on Boom’s soul.

I just saw an article today calling Snow Blind, Boom’s witness protection thriller, one of the best new comics in years. And we see it all the way down here at #295. Depressing. I salute them for taking chances on a variety of intriguing genre books, and I hope it starts paying off for them in sales. But also, they should bring back Garfield.
Glenn:  Now you’ve managed to get Supergirl  back, I see the logical move to campaign the return of Garfield, they’re very similar

Ray:  Looking ahead to March, DC’s big news of the month is their #50 anniversary celebration, with the lucky 12 books from the New 52 that made it to this point getting big anniversary issues. I expect we’ll see increased numbers from all of them, but I think Batman #50 should safely take the #1 slot this month with no big events from either company of new Star Wars launches. DC’s only other new release of note is Legends of Tomorrow #1, an 80-page mega-comic that is actually four cancelled miniseries featuring Firestorm, Metamorpho, Metal Men, and Sugar and Spike. Not expecting much out of this one, as the similar Suicide Squad spin-off title is doing grim numbers.

Marvel’s bringing us quite a few new #1s as well. There’s Black Widow from the Daredevil creative team, International Iron Man (which was likely conceived when the sales were expected to be higher on the parent title), Mockingbird, which will attempt to make another of Marvel’s fan-favorite team players a solo player, and Hyperion, an ill-advised attempt to spin a solo book out of the low-selling Squadron Supreme title. I see the first two landing top ten debuts. There’s also a C3PO one-shot, the debut of Haunted Mansion by Ghosted writer Josh Williamson, and the proper debut of the Stand-off mini event and its tie-ins.

Indie comics have some interesting releases as well, with Image books like former Vertigo thriller The Discipline and anime-inspired sci-fi adventure Circuit Breaker. But the biggest debut of the month outside of the big two will likely be Boom’s Mighty Morphin Power Rangers, which sold gangbusters in its preview issue. Valiant also revives its fan favorite heroes Archer and Armstrong in a new series.
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Glenn:  With lots of 50 issues to scare Marvel away (they can’t count higher than 30 odd these days) DC may have a strong showing next month.  It should be interesting how they do and if the main Standoff mini event has more of an impact as it moves in on the main story (I’m going to say…no).

Until next time, be good
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